Posted on 03/30/2012 5:23:23 AM PDT by true believer forever
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) is expected to endorse Republican frontrunner Mitt Romney before Wisconsin's GOP primary next Tuesday, according to media reports.
Ryan would be the latest in a string of high-profile endorsements for Romney this week, as party leaders have increasingly coalesced around the former Massachusetts governor's campaign. The Wisconsin lawmaker would join popular freshman Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and former president George H. W. Bush in signaling support for Romney this week.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
That’s more like it! :-)
I guess the founding fathers should have put a IQ test requirement, for voting, in the Constitution.
(2) Ryan and his buddies imagine it's possible to win a Presidential election without volunteer "GET OUT THE VOTE" folks. That particular theory is the primary reason why Romney really has had a tough time getting 50% except in captive areas with large numbers of Mormons. (or where MIttbots have flat out cheated). -- Agreed. Why the faint of heart can't faint. It almost proves they are worried the rabble is getting to big for its britches.
(3) He's in fear of the Gadianton warriors. -- this sent me to google - but I still don't get whether they are proMormon or anti...
http://bookofmormononline.net/#/search/gadianton
http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/14036-who-gadiantons-today.html
It is becoming increasingly difficult to argue with people who I always identified as conspiracy theorists, when they say our votes are meaningless and the entire Presidential election is wrestling. Everything is scripted and the candidates hand picked.
I had an old friend who spent 40 years in the CIA and he told me this too. Nobody becomes candidate for President without others (whoever that is) approval, and that includes Obama whom he said was handpicked in 2005. He told me when he announced his candidacy and he was polling at what 8%, that he would beat Hillary and become President. I laughed at him and thought all the years of doing strange things have made him crazy...guess not. I don’t laugh at him anymore.
If you are wondering he told me he would serve 8 years.
Start with them.
Ryan goes first.
That tags one of their buddies out now. Should serve as a serious warning.
We also can't rule out simple behind the scenes chicany on Romney and the GOP-E's parts.
Take Virginia, for instance. Both Perry and Gingrich sincerely thought they had met the signature requirements to be on the ballot. Yet, Perry and Gingrich - who were the only two candidates whose submissions were subjected to strenuous scrutiny - somehow both managed to have just enough of their signatures rejected to disqualify both of them.
Now, are both of these men and their candidates really just a bunch of flaming incompetents, or is there more, in fact, to all of this?
We should note that Romney's and Paul's signature submissions went basically unchecked.
It's almost as if the "powers that be" wanted Virginia to be a two-man race between Romney and Paul, which they knew Romney would win.
He’s in fear of the Gadianton warriors.
Thanks for the anti-Mormon bump. I get a cut of the tinfoil concession...every little bit helps !
I don’t like Romney, ok he sucks (see my tagline). I wanted Sarah Palin, then I wanted Newt, but that isn’t going to happen, sorry the voters have spoken.
But the people who say they won’t vote for Romney are being foolish. He’s not perfect, but I can tell you he won’t be the horrible disaster that Obama has been on this nation. i don’t think he’s going to rock the boat too much, he’ll manage things, and with a conservative congress, I can’t see him doing too much damage. He will be an improvement, and I think I would feel infinitely safer under a Romney administration, than I would under an Obama administration.
That's been my whole point of using this year to promote a truly conservative third-party option. Nominating candidates who evoke no better than a bland "meh" isn't a winning strategy.
Ryan is really a RINO. He’s firmly planted in the Boehner-Cantor camp.
“If I vote 3rd party in November ... “
I’ll simply consider you less than a deep thinker. Romney isn’t all that great, but he doesn’t hate America. A Romney administration would not leak the fact that the Israelis got access to airbases in Azerbajan, hoping the leak would negate an Israeli strike on Iran.
Romney would not siphon off $1.5Bn to the muslim brotherhood in Egypt.
Romney would not be behind the race baiting that is going on in Florida.
Romney won’t promise to give away more to the Russians if they give him “space”.
That’s just a few of the differences. But, you can imagine all manner of evil intent for Romney if you like. I’ll deal with whatever happens. And I’ll be sure to read the posts here when things really start going in the dumper because Obama will be unrestrained.
Go Newt! On to the convention!
Your joking right?
“But it doesn’t matter. The Obama machine will crush Romney in November and then he will become dictator.”
I don’t think we’ll let that happen. If we do, it’s on us, not Romney. I’ve been for Perry all along and hoping for a miracle. I tried to support Newt but he faded very quickly. Not going to happen. The only thing that would make me support Santorum is if he happened to be the last man standing. I don’t like one thing about him. I will vote for Romney without hesitation. I take one look at his beautiful wife and family, to include his sixteen grandchildren and I’m hopeful for the families of America under a Romney presidency. I think he gets it about government getting out of the way of small business so jobs can be created. I want to support him and give him a chance to keep his promises. The healthcare sham is the biggest war we’ve ever faced in this country. He’s evolved and I’d like to test that evolution rather than let Obama continue. I sent a donation to Romney’s campaign yesterday.
ClearCase_guy wrote:
<<
I think Obama is going to win and he is going to have coat tails. A lot of People who dislike Obama will just stay home, because they will dislike Romney more.
>>
**************************************************************
Sorry, but there is no Republican I dislike more than I dislike Obama.
No more Sacred Honor around here? When I think of those freezing soldiers with bleeding feet at Valley Forge and see the lack of courage and determination around me, I can’t help but ask, “What have we become?” Don’t we owe something to the memory of those soldiers? Don’t we owe the dead GIs on Omaha Beach? Don’t we owe our fellow Americans serving in Afghanistan?
What gutless wonders we are!
I was just thinking that... these people giving up remind me of the Washington troops who decided to stay behind because the Delaware River had too many ice floes... they gave up their chance to change history, and give birth to a beacon of freedom...
I wish I could source this, but I got it in my email this morning... but it should be very heartening... it is time for a guerilla movement... that is all that will do it. Newt's campaign has been misserving him for quite some time. I know a few people who tried to speak up about it, and were promptly let go... who now are back in. The GOP tentacles reach deep...
Vince Haley As usual, the main stream media spends its time parroting presidential aspirant, Speaker Newt Gingrich's, recent announcement to reduce his campaign staff by one-third and narrow his focus on those goals which he hopes will carry him on to the GOP Convention in Tampa in August. But because many of today's journalists are so ...lazy and don't know how to go a step further ... they've missed the huge story.
So, here is the big news in this whole transition: who Newt tapped as the new man in charge of the Gingrich 2012 election ship, Vince Haley—who replaces Michael Krull.
Now believe me, Haley, is a piece of work!
Best known for his keen ability to "think outside the Washington, D.C. beltway box" and... for not being afraid to verbalize and implement his unconventional–– often radical ideas—Haley, without a doubt was the quiet boots-on-the-ground, mastermind of Gingrich's South Carolina primary win.
No one in America (including former community organizer, Barack H. Obama, nor Karl Rove of the Bush administration) does grassroots strategizing as effectively as Vince Haley. Don't let the youth of Haley fool you... he is a prolific writer and one of the best opposition researchers in politics today.
His uncanny ability to draft strategic plans that include layers-upon-layers of variables and options, and also his nonchalant style of incorporating matrixes of plans A's and B's within any given strategic plan makes him a force to be reckoned with.
Haley has long been considered one of Newt's coveted secret weapons. Cloaked in an unassuming, boy-next-door persona, Vince Haley's behind-the-scenes hardball tactics have disarmed many in the political field—often catching off-guard those who have discounted his abilities. Consequently, by the time it has been realized that he has seized control of the political debate and has forever altered the trajectory of the moment ... it's too late!
So for Gingrich to unleash Haley at this stage of the political process indicates Newt has only just begun to fight.
Indeed, young Haley is one to watch... as he is sure to bring his signature "David & Goliath, hit-'em-and-kill-'em" political game plan that presents meaningful, thought-provoking issues which are sure to have Americans' tongues wagging. He has the skills to take Gingrich's flailing campaign to a whole new level, and finally, he will offer hard-hitting push backs, unlike Senator John McCain's wimpy responses back in 2008, to assure the American public that the truth gets out.
Nope... Haley will research President Obama's talking points and policies to the 'empth' degree for accuracy and take it straight to the President in a way that won't be pretty!
*Pop the popcorn and get ready for the finale!
This is all very simple. Romney is going to be the nominee. All these politicians know this. They are merely angling for their cut should Romney actually win. It is self-serving. Nothing more.
**
Well, it sucks. As a regular, everyday normal hardworking, taxpaying AMerican citizen — will I EVER GET MY CUT???
He** no. We the People don’t get the cuts anymore. It’s all decided in the backrooms.
We allow it, though, year afer year. Our leaders get theirs ...what do WE get? Usually just more of the same — go along to get along, comprOmise after compromise with Liberals, more taxes, less efficient multiplying government, corporate bailouts, a broken healthcare system, etc, etc.
Perhaps with Romney, we might not have to endure race riots ...or perhaps we still will. But one thing for sure ...NOTHING will get better in this country and very little will change.
Of course not. They stick with conservative principles and think for themselves.
There isn’t one ‘tea party’. There’s hundreds of them.
Ryan and DeMint are politicians. They are better than some, but they are still politicians. Most of the conservatives who are backing Romney are doing so because they think he can win, because that’s what the consultants are telling them.
You can doubt it all you want, but that is precisely what is going to happen. If Romney wins the nomination, and at this point it is nearly certain he will, Sarah Palin will endorse, support and actively campaign for him. You better get used to Palin speaking highly of Romney and telling us why we should vote for him, because that is exactly what she is going to do.
“This thread sounds like a pitty party. The people who are being dumped on are great Americans who have done more for the conservative cause than anyone here. So, pick up your marbles and go home. The rest of us are going to kick Obams out of office without your help.”
Dream on....Exactly what has Romney done for the conservative cause?......What makes him a great American?....Lying?.....Being deceptive?....Having no convictions?......Being an opportunist?.....Or those in a postition of power and having no ba@@@ to stand up to the corruption (Rubio, Ryan, Haley ect.....) with true conviction to where they are ruthlessly trashed like Palin......Dream on.....I love my country as much as you do......
The thing about Romney is he will be forced to be conservative, or else a real conservative will run against him in 4 years and beat him in the primary.
Because we need to have someone to blame, when the reality is that the Republican base is not necessarily Free Republic. If its true that the base is who votes in the primaries, then it is probably true that at least 40% of the base are Romney types.
So Romney is a conservative because he has a wife and a large family? Santorum too touts his big family as proof of his conservative family values. Sorry, but knocking up your wife several times does not make you a conservative.
I don’t believe Romney’s assertions that he is a conservative. I know the man’s record. He would say anything to win. But if he by some miracle did win the presidency, all those promises will disappear faster than Hoiudini.
Alas. This used to be the locus of intelligent conservative discussion. It appears now to have turned into a circular firing squad.
Whatever floats your boat. But still, unless somebody gets around to asking Ryan if that’s the case, it’s strictly hypothetical! He might even imagine that if he doesn’t go along with Romney he’ll be picked up by some Flying Garudas and dunked in the Gulf of Mexico.
I don't believe Romney's assertions that he is a conservative. I know the man's record. He would say anything to win. But if he by some miracle did win the presidency, all those promises will disappear faster than Hoiudini.
The elites have made their choice. The majority of the rank and file disagrees.
This is the moment those with foresight said was coming; the moment the Republican Party leaves us. If there is to be credible conservative opposition to Myth Romney and if we are to posit a credible alternative to the Republican Party, now is the time to start.
If Romney is the best the Republican Party can do, then it deserves to die.
Very interesting. Haley’s performance bears watching. I wish he could take it to the GOP-e while he’s at it!
Maybe they were an illusion from the start: too uninformed to make a difference.
We allow it by not fighting at the primary election level.
I happen to be very close friends with a Minnesota Representative who belongs to the Conservative wing. I speak with him every week and he is well aware of the sentiments coming from the Conservative Base.
Oddly enough, the radical fringe rantings coming from this thread do not fully represent the base overall. Most of them are rather respectful, level headed, logical thinkers who resemble Newt Gingrich.
I have asked him countless times, as to why Congress votes the way they do. His reply is always;
[ “How long do you think any of us would be able to stay in office, if we were to always cater to the extreme fringe who represents less than 10% of the population?”]
Change the thinking of the population first, before you can have the perfect conservative world you dream of.
“Obama will be impeached long before the end of a second term ... “
With an uninterested populace and most of the media in his pocket? I’d bet money against that.
As for the GOP, I don’t even think they want to win the White House. What the GOP wants is the House and Senate so they can get the good chairmanships and committee seats. It’s all about influence and money for the GOP, they don’t give a rat’s behind about you or me.
My view is pragmatic. I’m on the back 9 of life, the longer we delay a communist state, the better off I’ll be. I’d like to miss it altogether, but doubt I will. I think we can survive a Romney presidency, and eventually right the ship, if that’s what the people want.
A second Obama presidency will be so disastrous that there will be no righting the ship, it will be sunken.
It looks like Romney is going to win, though there is still a possibility he can be denied.
Apparently a lot of people I have respect for (DeMint, Rubio, Thune, Issa, Cantor, Mack, now Ryan and others) do not believe so, or believe it is best not to keep fighting...but I will until he is actually the nominee.
If he is nominated, I will vote for Romney over Obama. Precisely because of the reasoning you gave. Anyone who allows Obama another four years is, IMHO, whistling past the graveyard, the graveyard of our country. But that is just my opinion and they are entitled to their own.
But, for myself, I will do nothing to enable another four years of this abjkect, American despising Marxist to have another four years to continue his mayhem.
With Romney, if we have the right congress in there (and I believe we will) we will hold him to his campaign promises and he will delver, because if nothing else, he is a politician and he wants to keep his job.
Report: Ard will never endorse or vote for Romney.
Exactly, I think we need to focus on what a President can actually do.
What I look for:
How would you use the military?
What foreign relationships would you foster?
What judges would you appoint?
How would you represent America in speeches?
What type of budget would you propose?
What is your policy on signing/vetoing bills?
How would you use the bully pulpit?
How would you use the AG’s office?
Do you favor unelected czars?
Who would be your Treasury Secy/Fed Chairman?
Who would be your State/Defense Secy?
For me, social policy, tax plans, and even economic plans are really not important. That is the job of the legislators.
I had a very similar journey.
I never really wanted Newt or Santorum, so why would I suddenly support them just because they are all that is left? I really consider myself apathetic to any of the remaining candidates.
NOBODY could possibly appease these people. They are a radical, pessimistic fringe who will never find a positive attitude about much of anything, that does exactly not meet their definition of a perfect World. Reagan himself, defined them in much the same way I just did.
Perry was my choice. He got out way too soon - IMO.
So when they vote with Boehner they are sticking with their principles, but when Ryan does, he is a sellout?
I don’t understand why people are so shocked that conservative leaders are picking Romney over Santorum. I’m a Gingrich guy, but he’s done(was a Cain guy previously and I was initially hopeful that a few other conservatives would give it a shot).
I’m still voting for Gingrich unless he bails, but when I’m just looking at Santorum and Romney, I actually like the candidate Romney is pretending to be substantially more than the candidate Santorum actually is. There’s nothing particularly appealing about Rick Santorum to me. I’ll vote for him if he’s the candidate, but I’m not a fan. Congressional conservatives probably don’t like either of the choices, but think Romney is more likely to win.
A Romney type split the vote here and won a 6 way primary. Rick Snyder. Snyder didn't move right when he was elected, except on some union issues. He's the same guy he always was. That's what will happen with Romney too.
The question is whether or not 4/8 years of Romney is better than the devil we have. One good thing with Romney is that he doesn't have Eric Holder, Cass Sunstein, Valerie Jarrett, and those czars. One bad thing is that congressmen are nothing but mindless lemmings when their party's president is in power.
I know the feeling. He's a slimier version of Rick Snyder, and I did not vote for Snyder. I also don't want Obama picking two more judges for SCOTUS.
I have followed individual bills. It depends on what the bill is.
And that line of thought is the biggest problem of all we have in this country. Too many people need leaders to inspire them. Too many people want to be lead. Too many people look for someone with charisma. Screw that crap. That's how we got stuck with Obama. People need to step up and lead themselves. Until that happens, we're screwed.
“So Romney is a conservative because he has a wife and a large family?”
You missed the whole point. Conservatives need to take the house and the senate. Conservatives need to take back their local politics. They need to put their own on school boards and in city council. Conservatives need to support a president of all the people even if his conservative credentials need honing. Most of government needs to get out of the social aspects of American life and back into doing what they’re supposed to do.
“Knocking up your wife?” Good grief. That’s real conservative. You sound like a winner. “He would say anything to win?” Really? Are any of them out there saying anything to lose?
“With Romney, if we have the right congress in there (and I believe we will) we will hold him to his campaign promises and he will delver, because if nothing else, he is a politician and he wants to keep his job.”
You are exactly right.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.