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Conservatives have lost faith in science, study shows (No bias here...)
LA Times via Heraldnet.com ^ | 3/29/2012 | LA Times

Posted on 03/30/2012 8:57:04 AM PDT by Qbert

As the Republican presidential race has shown, the conservatives who dominate the primaries are deeply skeptical of science -- making Newt Gingrich, for one, regret he ever settled onto a couch with Nancy Pelosi to chat about global warming.

A study released Thursday in the American Sociological Review concludes that trust in science among conservatives and frequent churchgoers has declined precipitously since 1974, when a national survey first asked people how much confidence they had in the scientific community. At that time, conservatives had the highest level of trust in scientists.

Confidence in scientists has declined the most among the most educated conservatives, the peer-reviewed research paper found, concluding: "These results are quite profound because they imply that conservative discontent with science was not attributable to the uneducated but to rising distrust among educated conservatives."

"That's a surprising finding," said the report's author, Gordon Gauchat, in an interview. He has a doctorate in sociology and is a postdoctoral fellow at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

To highlight the impact conservative views of science have had on public opinion, Gauchat pointed to results from Gallup, which found in 2012 that just 30 percent of conservatives believed the Earth was warming as a result of greenhouse gases versus 50 percent two years earlier...

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Chris Mooney, who wrote "The Republican War on Science," which Gauchat cites, agreed.

"If you think of the reasons behind this as nature versus nurture, all this would be nurture, that it was the product of the conservative movement," he said. "I think being educated is a proxy for people paying attention to politics, and when they do, they tune in to Fox News and blogs."

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldnet.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarmingscam; science

"Chris Mooney, who wrote "The Republican War on Science," which Gauchat cites, agreed..."

Helpful hint to the LA Times: If you want to present the appearance of being heroic defenders of the truth against those eeeevil Republicans... you probably shouldn't be interviewing a guy who was busted a month ago for peddling a forged document purporting to show the Koch Brothers donating hundreds of thousands to the Heartland Institute for the express purpose of "dissuading teachers from teaching science"...

1 posted on 03/30/2012 8:57:16 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

There is a HUGE difference between being skeptical of the work of individual scientists and being skeptical of science.


2 posted on 03/30/2012 8:58:54 AM PDT by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: Qbert

That’s got to be one of the dumbest titles I’ve seen in a while. Science should never be about faith. Science should be about unbiased results and skepticism.

I’ve lost faith in the ability of many scientists to do their jobs without bias.


3 posted on 03/30/2012 9:01:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Qbert

We have lost faith in “scientists” with a political agenda.


4 posted on 03/30/2012 9:02:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Qbert

Conservatives have lost faith in science...”

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Conservatives reject outright politicized “science”.


5 posted on 03/30/2012 9:02:28 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Qbert

We’ve just lost faith with Big Science.


6 posted on 03/30/2012 9:06:18 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Qbert

Crooked Lynx Hair Hoax Biologists BTTT


7 posted on 03/30/2012 9:07:05 AM PDT by Cold Heart (It takes a liberal to raze a village)
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To: hometoroost

The “study” was even worse than that- apparently, it was only asking whether people had any confidence in those running various institutions:

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/139873/j


8 posted on 03/30/2012 9:08:37 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: hometoroost
There was an interesting article in the Washington Examiner yesterday. Two editors of big scientific journals came out with a report that showed that while the number of articles published over the last few years has increased 44%, the number of retractions due to poor data and methods, fraud, and plagiarism have increased 100-fold (10,000%).

They blamed it on too many researchers chasing after too few dollars. That's nicer than saying present researchers are less capable and honest compared to their predecessors.

9 posted on 03/30/2012 9:13:14 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Qbert

Perhaps it is because those “educated conservatives” know how science is supposed to function and what is being peddled for political purposes isn’t it.


10 posted on 03/30/2012 9:13:37 AM PDT by DB
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To: Qbert
the conservatives who dominate the primaries are deeply skeptical of science

Skepticism is a necessary part of science, but the only science that is taking place here is political science with an emphasis on mass psychology via propaganda.

It's over. Conservatives and most everyone else with a brain sees and understands what you're doing.

Quit peeing in our community pool of knowledge!

Get back to scientific integrity and the basics: theory and rigorous testing via the scientific method, published results and vigorous debate, instead of "The science is settled" bullsh1t we have sunk to!

11 posted on 03/30/2012 9:14:37 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: EyeGuy

Einstein’s theory that gravity bends light provides a beautiful example of how science should work. He published his paper and waited for others to prove or disprove it.

Today we know its a fact and we even use gravitational lensing in astronomy.


12 posted on 03/30/2012 9:16:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Qbert
It wasn't a republican who abandoned space flight. It wasn't a republican who refused to understand that solar energy and wind energy while real are not competitive with oil.

It isn't a republican who is asking us to believe, despite abundant empirical evidence to the contrary, that the earth must be warming due to human activity when there is, in fact, no actual warming going on for at least 15 years.

Who's anti-science?

13 posted on 03/30/2012 9:17:00 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: Qbert
If this liberal Democrat scumbag Mooney had more accurately titled his/her/its book, 'The Republican War on Junk Science', maybe there would be something legitimate to debate.
14 posted on 03/30/2012 9:17:16 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Qbert

Wrong again MSM. It’s POLITICAL SCIENCE we have lost faith in. And we have also lost faith in the SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT REAR END LICKERS INFESTED IN THE MSM.


15 posted on 03/30/2012 9:19:08 AM PDT by spawn44
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To: GBA
"What you do, if you are a serious scientist operating according to the established method, is attempt to falsify your hypothesis. Test it to destruction; carry out serious attacks on its weakest points to see if they hold up. If they do... then you have a theory that can be published, and tested, and verified by other scientists. If you don't, you throw it out."
Global Warming Fraud and the Future of Science - J. R. Dunn

The "scientists" who continue to perpetrate the "global warming" scam approach their science in exactly the opposite manner as the approach described above. They formulated a theory based on political correctness (as well as the path of least resistance to "grant" money) and then did whatever they had to do with their data to "prove" it.

What the world has now seen with the expose of the "global warming" scam puts a new spin on the old saying: "Figures can lie and liars can figure." The discipline of science has taken a massive hit over the past two-plus years (Climategat I, November 2009; Climategate II, Novemeber 2011) and it could take many more years for science - - and scientists - - to begin to regain credibility with the public. A lot of that burden must fall on honest scientists, and the first and most important thing they must do is scream for the heads of Michael Mann, Phil Jones, and the rest of the fraudsters masquerading as "scientists". I guess we'll see if they have the guts, integrity and self-respect to speak up loudly... No, I am not holding my breath.
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Clearly, we need to do something about "climate change", and fast!

"Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve... The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality."
Newsweek: The Cooling World (April 28, 1975)
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From the original "climate change" scam, the one known as "global cooling".
Meet the new corrupt alarmists, same as the old corrupt alarmists.

16 posted on 03/30/2012 9:21:38 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Qbert; All

Some student reviews of Professor Gordon Gauchat (overall grade 2.13/4):

“he is always unprepared, disorganized, and biased in favor of liberals he changes due dates, nervously sweats when he teaches, and does not even seem to know the subject matter...”

“Overall.. He sucks.. Point blank. He’s terribly unorganized. He never knows when he wants assignments to be handed in and changes the due date frequently..”

“Would not recommend this professor”

“Lacks enthusiasm in the classroom
Poor sense of humor”

http://www.professorperformance.com/evaluation/CT-University-of-Connecticut-at-Storrs-UConn/Gordon-Gauchat


17 posted on 03/30/2012 9:22:42 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

I’ve lost faith in junk science. Like anthropomorphic global warming, for example.


18 posted on 03/30/2012 9:27:38 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: hometoroost

As a conservative scientist, I myself have lost confidence in science as it is practiced nowadays. Once, Physics was free of the political shenanigans common to the social ‘sciences’, but the global warming shenanigans have stained even physics.


19 posted on 03/30/2012 9:44:56 AM PDT by expat2
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To: VanShuyten
No question the scientific enterprise has been corrupted by money-getting. Ethical scientists are sorely tried unless they have already achieved job security themselves and are free to seek the truth instead of dollars.
20 posted on 03/30/2012 9:49:23 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Qbert

Uh, what part of Science? Maybe pseudo “science” that only exists to further the Liberal agenda. The other 99% of Science is still valid, however.


21 posted on 03/30/2012 9:50:46 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Qbert

Conservatives have lost faith in "science", study shows

There, fixed it!

22 posted on 03/30/2012 9:56:58 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: muir_redwoods

"It wasn't a republican who abandoned space flight. It wasn't a republican who refused to understand that solar energy and wind energy while real are not competitive with oil.

It isn't a republican who is asking us to believe, despite abundant empirical evidence to the contrary, that the earth must be warming due to human activity when there is, in fact, no actual warming going on for at least 15 years."

Exactly. How conveniently the Left forgets all of this.

23 posted on 03/30/2012 9:56:58 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: hometoroost

Hometoroost, you are so right!

We Judeo Christian conservatives are not “skeptical of science”. How could we be, for it is our God who created science as He set the perfect order of the universe which are the truths by which the universe and all in it function.

Scientists are merely men (some more learned than others) who have studied, experimented, observed, and attempt to explain this order. Sometimes they get it a bit wrong (Darwin’s THEORY for example). Often they lie for political or monetary gain.

It is the scientist that we do not “believe in”.... meaning trust.

After all, isn’t it the SCIENTIFIC METHOD” that teaches us to always question that which is not proving the hypotheses, and to never-never fall for “Affirming the consequent” which is the fallacy of thinking: If A then Z, A is true, therefore Z. By such a fallacy we get stuff like: If it is true that CO2 will cause the earth to heat up (Global Warming)... and temperatures have been a bit higher in some places the past couple of summers..... therefore we must have Global Warming.... and the sky is falling.... eeeeeeek, we’re all gonna die! Theory, unproven and full of fallacy published as truth and very unscientific.


24 posted on 03/30/2012 10:01:21 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: The Duke
Conservatives have lost faith in "science" "scientists", study shows

there.... fixed it better :)

25 posted on 03/30/2012 10:05:59 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Qbert

What a bunch of nonsense. It’s not science that’s the problem, it’s a few individual “scientists” —who have abandoned any pretense of science— that are the problem, along with the “journalists” that report on them.


26 posted on 03/30/2012 10:06:17 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

bttt


27 posted on 03/30/2012 10:12:33 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Qbert
"If by Science you mean the application of the human intellect to eradicate those fatal diseases that have been the scourge of mankind since the dawn of history, than I am for it."

"But if by Science you mean the set of assumptions that has reduced man to the level of an animal to be husbanded, corralled, branded, and slaughtered at the whim of a self-appointed elite with the ear of those with the power to effect such calumnies, then I'm against it!"

28 posted on 03/30/2012 10:39:43 AM PDT by Oratam
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The L.A. Times should heed Pres. Eisenhower’s warnings about public policy becoming captive of a scientific-technological elite funded by career politicians obsessed with power. The following quote is from Pres. Eisenhower’s farewell address.

“Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”

Regarding faith in science, has the L.A. Times ever used the scientific definition of the scientific term “species” when reporting on or discussing the “Endangered Species Act”? What effect has government financed social science had on the poorer neighborhoods in L.A.? What impact has government financed economic science had on the California and U.S. economies?


29 posted on 03/30/2012 4:29:24 PM PDT by sforkjoe57 (How much longer must Americans be slaves to the stupidity of John Maynard Keynes?)
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To: Qbert
What's next? They'll tell us we've lost our faith in the Holy Church?

(I could've passed that one over, but chose not to.)
30 posted on 03/30/2012 6:02:07 PM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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LA Times don’t care. They know the smear will be widely circulated, the libs will nod gleefully and share it far and wide. Perception is reality and this is all about perception and the page views it brings. That’s how we got the phony FoxConn Apple underage slave workers story.


31 posted on 03/30/2012 11:12:31 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: Qbert

>> Conservatives have lost faith in science, study shows (No bias here...)

What bullcrap. Only the ignorant have ‘faith’ in science.


32 posted on 03/30/2012 11:15:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: sforkjoe57
The left uses Eisenhower's speech against "The Military-Industrial Complex" in their fear-mongering efforts against any and all military expenditures.

Fortunately, I listened to the entire speech (not something the left would want anyone to do) and it's truly a warning against the negative effect the quest for dollars was (and is) having on original and creative thinking in academia and industry. The "Climate Change" scam is the example par excellence.

Also, the left always portrayed Ike as an incoherent speaker. This speech puts the lie to that. But then again, conservatives admire and revere fatherly or grandfatherly types. The left, not so much.

33 posted on 03/31/2012 8:06:24 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: hometoroost; All
There is a HUGE difference between being skeptical of the work of individual scientists and being skeptical of science.

A distinction lost on the Left.

In the last 38 years, what passes for science in the public mind has been a tool to push the Left's pet agendas, particularly regarding environmental policy. Once you create the impression some fields of science have an ideological agenda, it's going to be create a greater sense of skepticism from those from a different political viewpoint. Science co-opted for social engineering is not science.

One or two generations of youth have been indoctrinated with a distorted impression of what science is, and lack the inquisitive nature and healthy skepticism that should accompany any ideological push.

It's a bit like the tainting of journalism. It no longer attempts a veneer of objectivity, it's moved into advocacy and opinion shaping while denying that's what it is. It's dangerously divisive, as we've seen in the Trayvon-Zimmerman case with NBC editing transcripts to redact the operator asking him if the suspicious person was white, black or Hispanic.

34 posted on 03/31/2012 4:35:05 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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