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Conservatives have lost faith in science, study shows (No bias here...)
LA Times via Heraldnet.com ^ | 3/29/2012 | LA Times

Posted on 03/30/2012 8:57:04 AM PDT by Qbert

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To: Qbert

Uh, what part of Science? Maybe pseudo “science” that only exists to further the Liberal agenda. The other 99% of Science is still valid, however.


21 posted on 03/30/2012 9:50:46 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Qbert

Conservatives have lost faith in "science", study shows

There, fixed it!

22 posted on 03/30/2012 9:56:58 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: muir_redwoods

"It wasn't a republican who abandoned space flight. It wasn't a republican who refused to understand that solar energy and wind energy while real are not competitive with oil.

It isn't a republican who is asking us to believe, despite abundant empirical evidence to the contrary, that the earth must be warming due to human activity when there is, in fact, no actual warming going on for at least 15 years."

Exactly. How conveniently the Left forgets all of this.

23 posted on 03/30/2012 9:56:58 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: hometoroost

Hometoroost, you are so right!

We Judeo Christian conservatives are not “skeptical of science”. How could we be, for it is our God who created science as He set the perfect order of the universe which are the truths by which the universe and all in it function.

Scientists are merely men (some more learned than others) who have studied, experimented, observed, and attempt to explain this order. Sometimes they get it a bit wrong (Darwin’s THEORY for example). Often they lie for political or monetary gain.

It is the scientist that we do not “believe in”.... meaning trust.

After all, isn’t it the SCIENTIFIC METHOD” that teaches us to always question that which is not proving the hypotheses, and to never-never fall for “Affirming the consequent” which is the fallacy of thinking: If A then Z, A is true, therefore Z. By such a fallacy we get stuff like: If it is true that CO2 will cause the earth to heat up (Global Warming)... and temperatures have been a bit higher in some places the past couple of summers..... therefore we must have Global Warming.... and the sky is falling.... eeeeeeek, we’re all gonna die! Theory, unproven and full of fallacy published as truth and very unscientific.


24 posted on 03/30/2012 10:01:21 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: The Duke
Conservatives have lost faith in "science" "scientists", study shows

there.... fixed it better :)

25 posted on 03/30/2012 10:05:59 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Qbert

What a bunch of nonsense. It’s not science that’s the problem, it’s a few individual “scientists” —who have abandoned any pretense of science— that are the problem, along with the “journalists” that report on them.


26 posted on 03/30/2012 10:06:17 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

bttt


27 posted on 03/30/2012 10:12:33 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Qbert
"If by Science you mean the application of the human intellect to eradicate those fatal diseases that have been the scourge of mankind since the dawn of history, than I am for it."

"But if by Science you mean the set of assumptions that has reduced man to the level of an animal to be husbanded, corralled, branded, and slaughtered at the whim of a self-appointed elite with the ear of those with the power to effect such calumnies, then I'm against it!"

28 posted on 03/30/2012 10:39:43 AM PDT by Oratam
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The L.A. Times should heed Pres. Eisenhower’s warnings about public policy becoming captive of a scientific-technological elite funded by career politicians obsessed with power. The following quote is from Pres. Eisenhower’s farewell address.

“Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”

Regarding faith in science, has the L.A. Times ever used the scientific definition of the scientific term “species” when reporting on or discussing the “Endangered Species Act”? What effect has government financed social science had on the poorer neighborhoods in L.A.? What impact has government financed economic science had on the California and U.S. economies?


29 posted on 03/30/2012 4:29:24 PM PDT by sforkjoe57 (How much longer must Americans be slaves to the stupidity of John Maynard Keynes?)
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To: Qbert
What's next? They'll tell us we've lost our faith in the Holy Church?

(I could've passed that one over, but chose not to.)
30 posted on 03/30/2012 6:02:07 PM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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LA Times don’t care. They know the smear will be widely circulated, the libs will nod gleefully and share it far and wide. Perception is reality and this is all about perception and the page views it brings. That’s how we got the phony FoxConn Apple underage slave workers story.


31 posted on 03/30/2012 11:12:31 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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>> Conservatives have lost faith in science, study shows (No bias here...)

What bullcrap. Only the ignorant have ‘faith’ in science.


32 posted on 03/30/2012 11:15:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: sforkjoe57
The left uses Eisenhower's speech against "The Military-Industrial Complex" in their fear-mongering efforts against any and all military expenditures.

Fortunately, I listened to the entire speech (not something the left would want anyone to do) and it's truly a warning against the negative effect the quest for dollars was (and is) having on original and creative thinking in academia and industry. The "Climate Change" scam is the example par excellence.

Also, the left always portrayed Ike as an incoherent speaker. This speech puts the lie to that. But then again, conservatives admire and revere fatherly or grandfatherly types. The left, not so much.

33 posted on 03/31/2012 8:06:24 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: hometoroost; All
There is a HUGE difference between being skeptical of the work of individual scientists and being skeptical of science.

A distinction lost on the Left.

In the last 38 years, what passes for science in the public mind has been a tool to push the Left's pet agendas, particularly regarding environmental policy. Once you create the impression some fields of science have an ideological agenda, it's going to be create a greater sense of skepticism from those from a different political viewpoint. Science co-opted for social engineering is not science.

One or two generations of youth have been indoctrinated with a distorted impression of what science is, and lack the inquisitive nature and healthy skepticism that should accompany any ideological push.

It's a bit like the tainting of journalism. It no longer attempts a veneer of objectivity, it's moved into advocacy and opinion shaping while denying that's what it is. It's dangerously divisive, as we've seen in the Trayvon-Zimmerman case with NBC editing transcripts to redact the operator asking him if the suspicious person was white, black or Hispanic.

34 posted on 03/31/2012 4:35:05 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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