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Wisconsin man suspected of slaughtering 100 deer in 'thrill kill'
FOX News ^ | March 30, 2012 | Cristina Corbin

Posted on 03/30/2012 3:40:41 PM PDT by South Hawthorne

A Wisconsin man, who along with his three friends is suspected of illegally slaughtering as many as 100 deer in what prosecutors call an unprecedented "thrill-kill" spree, faces up to six months in jail.

Nathan Blaha, 20, of Hillsboro, Wis., and his accomplices allegedly wandered the backroads of Richland County in a pickup truck, stunning deer with a light before shooting them and leaving their carcasses to rot in what he called a contest to “get the most deer,” according to court documents.

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To: Cicero

“...there are far too many of them for the good of the woodlands.”

That is true, but it isn’t a deer problem, it is a people problem, especially among liberals and those folks who spell whitail deer as “Bambi”! Others that balk like a recalcitrant mule at the very idea of culling does (Mama Bambis) refuse to understand that culling does can control population increases very quickly, bucks not so much at all, unless you kill every one in the entire area!

JC

JC


101 posted on 04/01/2012 10:42:50 PM PDT by cracker45
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To: Cicero

“...there are far too many of them for the good of the woodlands.”

That is true, but it isn’t a deer problem, it is a people problem, especially among liberals and those folks who spell whitail deer as “Bambi”! Others that balk like a recalcitrant mule at the very idea of culling does (Mama Bambis) refuse to understand that culling does can control population increases very quickly, bucks not so much at all, unless you kill every one in the entire area!

JC

JC


102 posted on 04/01/2012 10:42:50 PM PDT by cracker45
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To: Figment

I disagree; there is a 3rd type: those of us who are disgusted about the wanton waste of good, healthy, natural venison!!!

JC


103 posted on 04/01/2012 11:29:18 PM PDT by cracker45
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To: Balding_Eagle

“Nature eats every bit of the carcass. EVERY bit. Nothing is lost.”

NOT always, unless you have included microbes and blow fly larvae in your definition of “nature”.

JC


104 posted on 04/01/2012 11:35:04 PM PDT by cracker45
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To: South Hawthorne

“Hmph, good luck getting Freepers to weigh in about guns. Not gonna happen...”

You’re a candidate for Jeff Foxworthy’s show “Are you smarter than a fifth grader”! HAW

JC


105 posted on 04/01/2012 11:40:05 PM PDT by cracker45
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To: Jeff Chandler

“Do they stampede? I mean, could your stampede them over a cliff like bison?”

Porbably not, except by accident, as they don’t run in large, cohesive herds like bison.

JC


106 posted on 04/01/2012 11:48:04 PM PDT by cracker45
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To: Durus

“Who was he poaching from?”

I can’t believe you asked that! He was poaching from ALL of us citizens who own all the wildlife, especially those of us who buy hunting and fishing equipment, where due to the Robertson - Pitman Act, a portion of excise taxes paid go fish and wildlife management and improvement.

JC


107 posted on 04/02/2012 12:15:10 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: kearnyirish2

That is NOT the primary consideration. Arrows are quieter with a very much reduced range, being under a hundred yards vs up to a mile for even a .22 rifle!

JC


108 posted on 04/02/2012 12:19:53 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: cracker45

That is the primary consideration when you’re on the receiving end of it; I hike a lot, and would prefer to deal with bow hunters versus rifle.

Compound bows are lethal at more than 100 yards.


109 posted on 04/02/2012 3:58:09 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: cracker45

Citizens collectively own wildlife? Interesting. What other things do citizens own collectively?


110 posted on 04/02/2012 4:55:09 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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I think this thread sets a new FR record for it's bounty of pure ignorance.
111 posted on 04/02/2012 6:19:01 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: cracker45

I don’t want him to carry 10k rounds of ammo, I want him to USE them.


112 posted on 04/02/2012 10:55:55 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: cracker45
NOT always, unless you have included microbes and blow fly larvae in your definition of “nature”.

I've always be of the belief that they are. Please correct me if that's not true.

113 posted on 04/02/2012 11:45:02 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: cracker45

Let me explain more fully. This is my inlaws property. We run a hunt club and we usually get our numbers. We don’t want help for our property. Reasonably we don’t want people we don’t know on the property doing whatever. Some people are honest most are not. We have strict rules about what you can shoot when. I am sure you will be happy to abide by these no matter what! Say for instance you must take a doe before a buck and you must not shoot a buck unless it is a 10 or atypical. Still want to drive hours to come hunt under these conditions? Yeah right. I am sure the world is full of honest good old boys who have absolute self control in these matters. Expect I haven’t met any yet. I am saying that deer are everywhere and collectively as a society we don’t hunt therefore the problem. I have no idea who you folks are when you refer to them. What do you mean? We are dealing with our share of the problem. Others not so much.


114 posted on 04/02/2012 12:41:47 PM PDT by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I certainly don’t condone what those idiots did to the deer.
I have a nut for a friend who wants to have all the highways and roads fenced off so that the deer won’t get hurt.
Deer are ok as long as they stay away from me,on a hill ,off in the distance.


115 posted on 04/02/2012 1:27:24 PM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: cracker45
That is true, but it isn’t a deer problem, it is a people problem, especially among liberals and those folks who spell whitail deer as “Bambi”!

I would disagree, it IS a deer problem and I would also argue that liberals here in S.E. Michigan are in line with the fact that deer are a major problem. What do YOU propose to do about it? Hunters here already have access to a buck license, a doe license, a black powder license and a bow license for bucks and a bow license for does?

What you fail to take into consideration is the high population density, the wooded areas within subdivisions that can't be safely hunted, and the declining public land that many hunters take advantage of...............

In my subdivision alone, there is a .1 mile square wooded area that contains a small herd of at least 5 deer. On the East side is a fully developed condo complex, on the S. side is an 8 lane highway and on the W. side is another fully developed condo complex.........How do you propose the hunting of these deer????? Shoot them with a bow and hope they don't run towards the highway where traffic speed averages 60 MPH?

Sorry but the underlying problem with the accelerating deer populations is the declining areas where they can be shot safely..........

116 posted on 04/02/2012 3:29:49 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: cracker45

Fine. Let’s raise the price of hunting licenses to help cover the cost of damages these vermin do. Doe are over populated and hunters don’t want them. I’ll go back to my earlier statement. A hunter should have to bag two doe before they are allowed one buck. Before they can take a second buck, two more does


117 posted on 04/02/2012 4:08:30 PM PDT by Figment
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To: grellis
If there hadn't been a forest full of bambi around, this guy would have taken out a pasture of cows, horses, or other livestock.

I guess I missed where he said that in the article. Did you read a different one? ...Or, are you substituting baseless speculation for fact?

I don't care if they were feeding the deer with poison corn, more deer dead is a step in the right direction.

118 posted on 04/03/2012 2:05:03 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I live in "1-in-42" WEST Virginia.

And that's part of the reason we have the 3rd highest car insurance rates in the nation.

119 posted on 04/03/2012 2:15:39 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Figment

“Fine. Let’s raise the price of hunting licenses to help cover the cost of damages these vermin do. Doe are over populated and hunters don’t want them...”

Spagetti logic! You have a problem and want to penalize outsiders with exorbitant fees to induce them to come help you solve YOUR problem?!? No wonder the deer like it there!

JC


120 posted on 04/04/2012 12:15:33 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: Balding_Eagle

“NOT always, unless you have included microbes and blow fly larvae in your definition of “nature”.

I’ve always be of the belief that they are. Please correct me if that’s not true.”

In that case why don’t you quit whining about the deer and just sacrifice yourself...to sustain the starving blowfly population! The microbes would be eternally grateful also...as would many legitimate hunters who appreciate a full freezer for their families in hard times! SHEESH

JC


121 posted on 04/04/2012 12:25:28 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: smaug6

I’m confuse’d about your statement! (Not really!) You have an over-population problem, yet still want someone else to solve it whom you don’t trust, want to put irrational conditions on it and charge them to do it on their own dime and time?!? Then you mention the sex and head gear restrictions, dumb, dumb, dumb! How about giving out of staters free licenses to come and harvest ALL and ANY animals not having antlers on their heads provided they haul the carcasses away for food? As an added inducement, you might let them dry camp at your lodge property for several days while they hunt, and relax any other silly rules you usually require, just in case they accidentally shoot one of your sacred ten-pointers!

JC


122 posted on 04/04/2012 12:48:01 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: Hot Tabasco

You just highlighted your own personal problem...it’s terrible, but you refuse to consider viable alternatives, because of (list all the excuses)! I have suggested some but you folks balk at those: free licenses, bow hunters, unlimited doe harvests, etc., yet you still whine about it.

JC


123 posted on 04/04/2012 1:02:03 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
***” leaving their carcasses to rot ....”****

Didn't Clint Eastwood say in one of his westerns, worms gotta eat too...but thrill killing is wrong...Michigan has lots of deer and they cause car insurance to go up so many get hit by cars..My son in law got 2 at the same time, crossing the road together, my son hit one with his car, a friend got one and I have had 4 dead one's on my propery in the last 10 years and chase them out of the back yard when I see them heading for my flower gardens.

My son wants to hunt them on my property but I say no...so I guess I am a softy when it comes to that, but also don't want bullets, shotgun shells bow and arrows etc getting near my neighbors homes....

124 posted on 04/04/2012 1:21:06 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: ArrogantBustard

Nice rack....


125 posted on 04/04/2012 1:22:59 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Figment

“Fine. Let’s raise the price of hunting licenses to help cover the cost of damages these vermin do. Doe are over populated and hunters don’t want them. I’ll go back to my earlier statement. A hunter should have to bag two doe before they are allowed one buck. Before they can take a second buck, two more does”

You just don’t get it, do you! You want to charge us who would be doing you a favor in reducing the reproduction rate(sounds like a liberal progressive). Good effing luck, it ain’t worth it! Yada, yada, yada...

Let me give you an analogy that you might understand...you have a LARGE, diseased, unstable tree hanging over your neighbor’s house and you advertise for a tree service firm to remove this hazard, yet when he shows up and volunteers to remove the tree IF he can keep the firewood, YOU want to charge him for the “opportunity” to remove the tree And for the value of the firewood! Just stupid!!

Stew in your own juices!!

JC


126 posted on 04/04/2012 1:23:14 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: South Hawthorne

“I don’t care if they were feeding the deer with poison corn, more deer dead is a step in the right direction.”

I am going to risk getting banned for name calling again, but you sir (and I use that term very loosely) are an idiot!

JC


127 posted on 04/04/2012 1:35:13 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: South Hawthorne

“I don’t care if they were feeding the deer with poison corn, more deer dead is a step in the right direction.”

I am going to risk getting banned for name calling again, but you sir (and I use that term very loosely) are an idiot!

JC


128 posted on 04/04/2012 1:35:13 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: goat granny
Around here, at least, the decline of hunting is probably the main reason for the overpopulation of deer. I'm all in favour of more hunting. However, this mindless thrill-killing just hurts hunters. It plays into the anti-hunter zealots worst stereotypes of hunters. This fiasco might actually lead to even more deer (due to reduced hunting).

You don't say how large a property you have. If it's large enough for legal hunting at all, shotguns or bow hunting should be okay. You can get pretty close to deer (too close!), so buckshot is effective, and it doesn't travel very far.

I can understand being a “softy” about killing the deer. That's part of the reason I am so disgusted with thrill killing and leaving the meat for the worms. The animals deserve some respect. If you eat the venison, you at least reduce the need to slaughter some other animals for meat.

129 posted on 04/04/2012 1:40:32 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: goat granny

Granny, I have always respected your opinion, but you are a loser on this one! If you want to “protect” all the wildlife destroying your property, then quit whining about it after they do that, eh??

JC


130 posted on 04/04/2012 1:46:20 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I’m with you! There is the sport of hunting that carries with it the responsibility of using the rewards in an honorable manner. To advocate indescriminant killing while abandoning the harvest is immoral and (in most cases) illegal (excluding fire ants and rabid animals)! I’m sad that we have FReepers here who are so stupid as to NOT recognize the morality of protecting our natural rsources that don’t directly compete with our own survival!

JC


131 posted on 04/04/2012 2:07:58 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: ArrogantBustard

When I lived in PA, I drove I79 through WV one fall. It looked like God had bombed the entire route with blood filled water balloons, every fifty yards or so. I guess when a semi tractor trailer hits a deer, it just explodes! My father-in-law says you never even feel it, you just hear the thump.


132 posted on 04/04/2012 2:49:44 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: South Hawthorne
Go ahead and keep your blinkers on. You're a fool if you think this person's bloodlust wouldn't have been satisfied in some other way had deer not been available. He deserves to be punished to the full extent of whatever laws he can be tried under.

This was not hunting, and this had nothing whatsoever to do with wildlife management. This was a killing rampage, and it's disgusting that you applaud it.

133 posted on 04/04/2012 8:17:18 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: cracker45

Yes you are confused! Even though you don’t realize it you are very confused about what I am saying. You are intent on your own personal perspective. I understand that.


134 posted on 04/04/2012 10:10:50 AM PDT by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: cracker45

If you don’t have facts on your side, you descend into name calling? I hate to tell you this, but that trait is in the DNA of liberals, and I hope you’re intelligent enough to realize what you’ve just done.


135 posted on 04/04/2012 11:56:03 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: cracker45

That was about the most disjointed, ridiculous analogy I’ve ever read.
Let me explain it to you this way. You folks that are hunting for horns, and states that are catering to you, are doing huge damage to the deer herd and people too. The deer population has exploded and it is up to cars and trucks to bring it under control? The number of deer hunters has dropped substantially in the past 30 years and many are antler snobs. I support letting you take as many as you like as long as you take out some does along the way.
Very few are hunting for meat (I can understand why) . Open up the limits and stop this mess


136 posted on 04/04/2012 3:47:03 PM PDT by Figment
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To: cracker45
You aren't real smart are you? You can hunt deer till the damned things are extinct for all I care. I'll support you in your right to do it. You don't hunt for meat and 99% of hunters don't either. Go shoot nothing but bucks and the problem gets worse. If you were hunting for meat, the doe would be the better choice in the first place as far as taste and availability. In over populated areas, which is most of the US, hunters need a minimum doe kill before a buck Don't like it? Don't hunt and claim you're doing it for food
137 posted on 04/04/2012 4:10:40 PM PDT by Figment
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
I only have 4 1/2 acres and bullets can travel at a distance that would land on my neighbors property...a shot gun shell, I don't know how far they travel. If I were sitting on 20 acres, well, thats a different story....I am not anti-hunting. My late husband and all of my son's hunt and I have no problem with that. They mostly hunt bow and arrow and have gone as a group to the same hunting grounds in mid Michigan for decades...Son #2 fixes the best venison you could ever taste...

My one grandson got his first deer at 16 and last year got his first with a bow and arrow. So I am in no way against hunting. I really cannot give you a logical reason for not hunting on my property except with rifle the bullet can travel over a mile...

But when it comes to thrill killing by a couple of kids, to me that is a warning sign that there is something wrong with those kids...I am a big supporter of eating meat and know it doesn't come wrapped in styrfoam.

I can look out my back window and see deer frequently...usually doe's with fawns. Only once have I seen a nice buck with a good size rack, had to get out the binoculars to see him better, but around here buck aren't seen too much...

My granddaughter found one big one, dead by the stream when she took my dog for a walk. He must have gotten hit by a car as his back end was messed up really bad and I don't know how he managed to run approx. 600 feet from the road to the very back of my property....My son came out to get the antlers and he just kept mumbling while cutting them off, *damn I wish I had shot him* *he is good size*, etc you get the picture, but he had already started to smell. Last year I took a walk down to the stream and collected all the bones. The spine was still articulated except for about 3 vertibra...So I guess no other critters ate him.

But I do admit that I don't think I could ever kill one myself. I'll leave that up to others. Deer are so pletiful here in Michgan you always see them dead along the side of the road, but again not too many with racks, usually does...we probably need a couple of anlerless seasons.. Here in Michigan we can get some pretty good corn fed deer, the farmers aren't too pleased....:O)

138 posted on 04/04/2012 4:28:05 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: cracker45
:O) thank you for even reading my posts...please check out my #138 post that explains my feelings on the subject...

I really didn't think I was whining. I have done my own killing but it was vermin like raccoons, rats and possum...I hate coons. When I had the farm they killed quite a few of my fowl...There have been a couple of freepers that took offense at my drowning them in my pond, but I informed them that coons have little lungs and only a couple of gasps and they are dead...the live trap with a rope attached did the trick as in some area's of the pond the water was over 10 foot deep...

Only had to shoot one, that was the year the pond dried up due to a neighbor pumping out his 10 acre 20 foot deep pond, he sold construction sand by the truck load and a lot of us had our wells dry up...it had a high water table and myself and 3 others had to have a new well dug....

It took a couple of years for the ponds to refill.....

139 posted on 04/04/2012 4:42:33 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

You definitly don’t want rifle hunting on your property — the bullets could be lethal for a mile or more. OTOH, the lethal range of buckshot would only be about 100 yards (200 yards, to be on the safe side). That’s probably still too close for your neighbours on 41/2 acres. Around here, it’s not legal to hunt within a mile of a residence; so you would need to check your local regulations.

I agree with you — such wanton thrill killing is a bad sign. I wouldn’t want these guys in my neighbourhood.

When the deer population is under control, it is nice to occasionally see them in the back yard.


140 posted on 04/04/2012 4:55:11 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: smaug6

The only thing I had to go on was what you posted!!


141 posted on 04/05/2012 1:43:42 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: South Hawthorne

I stand by what I said. Deer are a very valuable resource IF managed properly, and mass poisoning is NOT proper management; it is foolhardy, kneejerk mismanagement!


142 posted on 04/05/2012 1:52:08 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: Figment

(Responce to posts 120 and 126...)

You haven’t read all of my posts here where I advocated killing does to reduce reproduction rates of over populated deer herds, have you? I am primarily a meat hunter (and fisherman too), although a ten point buck or a 12 lb bass would be great. You did make one correct statement, but it was based on an ignorant assumption on your part. You said I only hunted for the “head gear”, and that is true but ONLY because bucks with certain restrictions, eg 6” spikes, or fork horns or 3 points on at least one side, etc, were authorized to be killed. ANYTHING else was prohibited and subject to a hefty fine! Given a choice, I much prefer a nice fat, tender doe for table fare over a smelly, hormone infused, rutting buck that is older and tougher!

JC


143 posted on 04/05/2012 2:09:41 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I hate it when someone wastes sausage.


144 posted on 04/05/2012 2:15:02 AM PDT by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: goat granny

OK Granny, I understand. I hate coons, possums, feral cats and coyotes, but especially coons! They are brazen, dangerous and very destructive. Unfortunately, I can’t shoot any of those inside city limits. Mostly I trap them and haul them off, far off so they don’t come back, but that also is against the law here. My neighbors don’t complain at all because they’re fed up too!

JC


145 posted on 04/05/2012 2:26:08 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: cracker45
In that case why don’t you quit whining about the deer and just sacrifice yourself...to sustain the starving blowfly population!

Who is whining?

I'm pointing out that killing a hundred deer is just a tiny start.

If I'm doing any 'whining' it's about those who think the only justifiable shooting of a deer is to eat it. It isn't.

BTW your rant about 'doing away with myself' shows even you, at some level, realize you've lost the rational side af the argument are a forced to fall back on emotion.

146 posted on 04/05/2012 8:07:26 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: cracker45

Coons are also a big carrier of rabies...several years back our county had a notice of large numbers of rabies mostly coon, but one horse and one cow also ended up with rabies...I never thought of those two types of animals getting rabies, but they had to pick it up from some animal they came in contact with..


147 posted on 04/06/2012 2:46:19 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Balding_Eagle

“If I’m doing any ‘whining’ it’s about those who think the only justifiable shooting of a deer is to eat it. It isn’t.

BTW your rant about ‘doing away with myself’ shows even you, at some level, realize you’ve lost the rational side af the argument are a forced to fall back on emotion.”

If there is anyone I despise is someone who makes up a fake “strawman” argument, then tries to draw conclusions from it. I did NOT say that the only reason for shooting deer was to eat it. There are others (that you failed to mention BTW) such as mercy killing of those severely injured in road collisions, eliminating those having CWD symptoms and other deadly diseases and killing those terminally disabled from rutting bouts, predator attacks and the like.

It’s rich that you haven’t made a logical argument the entire time you’ve been commenting on this thread, yet you try to label me with that! I believe the psychologists call that sneaky little gambit “projection”, that has been continually practised by leftists nowadays!

JC


148 posted on 04/08/2012 4:18:50 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: cracker45

The argument I’m making is evident to all but the most ill informed.

To help you out;

We have too many deer, and it’s time to start killing them in mass numbers.


149 posted on 04/08/2012 3:47:04 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Well, I say you aren’t “helping anyone out” when you advocate large scale culling of deer herds only to abandon all that valuable meat that many of your neighbors could use for good cause, especially with the price of meat nowadays. That smacks of the 1800s buffalo slaughters! At least those guys used the hides (and sometimes tongues and other parts), but you don’t even want to do that! You ought to be ashamed of yourself!! SHEEESH

JC


150 posted on 04/09/2012 12:38:15 AM PDT by cracker45
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