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Obama Blasts GOP ‘You’re On Your Own Economics’
ABC News ^ | March 30, 2012 | Devin Dwyer

Posted on 03/30/2012 6:13:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

President Obama today delivered an impassioned attack on what he called Republicans’ “cramped narrow conception” of liberty, during a fiery speech at a campaign fundraiser in Vermont.

Before an electrified crowd of 4500 – his largest of the campaign to date – Obama framed the 2012 campaign as a stark choice between two diametrically opposed political and economic philosophies.

“Their philosophy is simple: you’re on your own,” Obama said of the GOP.

“You’re on your own if you’re out of work, can’t find a job. Tough luck you’re on your own. You don’t have health care: That’s your problem. You’re on your own. If you’re born into poverty, lift yourself up with your own bootstraps, even if you don’t have boots. You’re on your own. They believe that’s how America is advanced,” he said.

“That’s the cramped narrow conception they have of liberty, and they are wrong,” he said. “They are wrong.”

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1 posted on 03/30/2012 6:13:34 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How aboout “No one is stopping you, no one is propping you.”


2 posted on 03/30/2012 6:15:36 PM PDT by cincinnati65 (Romney is not MY candidate for President in 2012.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Yes; we should be "on our own".

That's the definition of "FREEDOM", and interference by TAKING what we earn to benefit OTHERS is bullshit.

Stop calling it the Middle Class, which is also bullshit, and call it what it is: PARASITIC EXISTENCE ON THE BACKS OF OTHERS WHO ACTUALLY PRODUCE AND WORK FOR A LIVING.

3 posted on 03/30/2012 6:17:21 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama is low hanging, rotten fruit. If we can't beat this clown excuse of a President, don't worry about it, for our republic cannot be saved.
4 posted on 03/30/2012 6:18:05 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“Their philosophy is simple: you’re on your own,” Obama said of the GOP.

I wish.

Individual freedom to be all that you can be.

Ron Paul is the closest to that than anyone in Washington and HE isn't even close!

5 posted on 03/30/2012 6:19:47 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

HE IS DEFINITELY LOSING IT!! HaHa!


6 posted on 03/30/2012 6:21:13 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The people who made this nation great were on their own, you primitive colonial jackass!


7 posted on 03/30/2012 6:21:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Your on your own or on the dole.


8 posted on 03/30/2012 6:21:50 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

pretty soon 300M people will be on food stamps.


9 posted on 03/30/2012 6:22:50 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t know about his ‘on your own’ characterization, but his economics of spending your children, your grandchildren, your great grandchildren into oblivion does not strike me as being the wise answer to our problems.


10 posted on 03/30/2012 6:22:57 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Liberty ain’t the government giving me a few things and then telling me how to live.


11 posted on 03/30/2012 6:24:32 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
...if you’re out of work, can’t find a job. Tough luck you’re on your own.

I've been out of work three times in my career. I've tried our local goverment "job resources" and found that to be a monumental waste of time. I'd MUCH rather be on my own than having some no-nothing government bureaucrat who's done nothing but suck off the government teat since college try to help me. What a bunch of communist collectivist drek. FUBO.

12 posted on 03/30/2012 6:25:12 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Their philosophy is simple: you’re on your own,” Obama said of the GOP.

Yeah right you ignorant jug-eared a$$hat... we’re on our own, after we circumvent all of the regulatory, legislative, and tax-related hurdles you and your evil POS Marxists minions have placed in front of us. If this moron knew HALF of what he thinks he knows, he’d still be twice as dumb as ANY room he waddled into.


13 posted on 03/30/2012 6:25:21 PM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: traditional1
Stop calling it the Middle Class,...

These are dangerous times for this Republic. In 1776-1782, about 1/3 of the colonists drove this country to liberty while about 1/3 of them preferred tyranny. If this turd has his way, it could go the other way around...

14 posted on 03/30/2012 6:25:21 PM PDT by C210N (Mitt "Severe Etch-a-Sketch" mcRominate-me)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

4500 – his largest of the campaign to date ———

Just a 1/4 of what he used to have show up. Well he did give em beer and brats then..


15 posted on 03/30/2012 6:25:34 PM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

do ya think the commie’s fiery teleprompter speech was because he gots word that the supremes told him to kiss off? I wouldnt doubt the vote was leaked by “I donts need to recuse myself” kagen.


16 posted on 03/30/2012 6:25:49 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Their philosophy is simple: you’re on your own,” Obama said of the GOP.

Yeah right you ignorant jug-eared a$$hat... we’re on our own, after we circumvent all of the regulatory, legislative, and tax-related hurdles you and your evil POS Marxists minions have placed in front of us. If this moron knew HALF of what he thinks he knows, he’d still be twice as dumb as ANYONE in ANY room he waddled into.


17 posted on 03/30/2012 6:25:54 PM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We have not been “on our own” since the New Deal when the government really started taking money from the productive to give to the unproductive. Now the government has both hands in every pocket through taxation and regulation. It’s not just Uncle Sam either... states and counties are just as oppressive with property taxes, permits, and sales/income taxes. They borrow from future generations or debase our currency when they can’t steal enough.

What a joke. Whoever runs against this clown should tell the whole world what Obama’s real slogan is....

Our kids will pay for it because we deserve it!!!


18 posted on 03/30/2012 6:26:13 PM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Freedom lovers want to be on our own, but this Marxist won’t get off our back.


19 posted on 03/30/2012 6:27:29 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You enter this world, alone. You leave it, alone.

It doesn’t revolve around you. It’s a cold, harsh place.

Obama will only help you place the shackles around your ankles.


20 posted on 03/30/2012 6:28:13 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("For the sake of our party we must stand united, whoever our nominee is."-Sarah Palin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

thegatewaypundit sure has a different headline than this one...

says Obama went off on some kind of socialist rant.


21 posted on 03/30/2012 6:28:19 PM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
OBAMAOBLAMO, OBLAMO THE MENDACIOUS
22 posted on 03/30/2012 6:30:08 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It seems he has liberty and dependency mixed up!


23 posted on 03/30/2012 6:32:44 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Jacquerie

Well, the past 3 years with “The government helping you economics” have been pretty lousy for me. Please let me be on my own again. And please stop making me support the freeloaders.


24 posted on 03/30/2012 6:33:15 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mr. Obama has never understood that the creation of real wealth has the highest correlation with the establishment of social justice. Productive capitalism is the greatest generator of wealth. The best a well managed government can do is perhaps ameliorate very poor outcomes for unfortunate individuals. It cannot generate the wealth itself.


25 posted on 03/30/2012 6:33:40 PM PDT by allendale
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To: marstegreg

Most Liberals do.


26 posted on 03/30/2012 6:35:17 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Before I had insurance, office visits were $60 at the local Urgent Care clinic, where I was greeted by a nurse, seen by my doctor, and they were open whenever I cared to visit. Appointments could be arranged easily.

I had an HMO - I was given a short list of doctors to choose from, where I had to make appointments weeks in advance, was kept waiting for an hour or more each time, and was ‘treated’ by a physician’s assistant. Office visits ran $60.

Now I have health insurance, doctor’s visits are $60 at the Urgent Care clinic, I can go in on Sundays, never have had to wait more than 5 minutes, and always see my doctor. Monthly savings are $257, which pays for an awful lot of doctor’s visits, but the savings to my time are enormous.

The idea of being stuck in a national HMO plan is absolutely awful to me. The idea of the federal government dictating what benefits I’m to have is even worse.


27 posted on 03/30/2012 6:37:50 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/03/29/the-health-care-disaster-and-the-miseries-of-blue/


28 posted on 03/30/2012 6:39:36 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You’re right, kenyan. And, we could afford to be on our own if the government wasn’t raping us of 30% of OUR earnings. Pound sand.


29 posted on 03/30/2012 6:40:12 PM PDT by Student0165
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To: Free ThinkerNY
What I wouldn't give right now for the bracing effects of some more "you're on your own" economics - I really wish the federal leviathan would just leave me and my economics alone so I can pursue my own economic interest unfettered by the parasitic greed of liberalism.

Anyone But Obama
30 posted on 03/30/2012 6:42:06 PM PDT by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hey, Obama. I think it’s about time... YOU be ‘on your own’!


31 posted on 03/30/2012 6:43:57 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: biggredd1
pretty soon 300M people will be on food stamps.

Tell the last rich person we eat that I like ketchup. /0bama voter.

32 posted on 03/30/2012 6:48:20 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mind your own damn business, Barack, I like being “on my own”!

I want the government and YOU out of my life forever!
You don’t get to STEAL what I work for and give it to some lazy ass deadbeats for sitting on their asses (and there are MILLIONS of them)!


33 posted on 03/30/2012 6:53:00 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Kenyan pimping the nanny state again. That crap sure gets old.


34 posted on 03/30/2012 6:55:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to WEAN the government off of our money.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What was Reagan’s line—something like:

The most dreaded words you can hear are, “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

Actually, we’ve had 50 years of the Great Society and how’s that working out for us?


35 posted on 03/30/2012 7:05:41 PM PDT by randita
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To: Free ThinkerNY

...just a reminder from 2008....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU&feature=g-hist&context=G29e8d16AHT3ZLFwAAAA


36 posted on 03/30/2012 7:13:19 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well, the “SPend Yourself Inot Oblivion” Economics ain’t working,Zero!


37 posted on 03/30/2012 7:16:35 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: traditional1

He wants us to trade our freedom for the security he offers, as if we don’t know that trade-off gets us neither when it’s done. It’s a con.


38 posted on 03/30/2012 7:19:21 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: EGPWS

Better on my own than with his jackboot on my neck.


39 posted on 03/30/2012 7:20:44 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Oceander
Amen to that. Our forefathers built the greatest free nation in history on limited government and self-reliance.

It feels now like you can't breathe in this country without answering to some bureaucracy, you're tracked from womb to tomb. Unless you're an illegal alien, not a citizen.

40 posted on 03/30/2012 7:28:23 PM PDT by mrsmel
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"They believe that’s how America is advanced,” he said.

The man is a genius. Yes Hussein, people worked hard and made a living from the freedom to do business. Take your socialism and shove it up your Ass.

41 posted on 03/30/2012 7:34:10 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The sound of desperation, I would gladly go back to the Bush years compared to this disaster.

Pray for America


42 posted on 03/30/2012 7:34:40 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: Oceander

Since all the GOPe seems interested in nominating these days are Compassionate Conservatives at best and flaming liberals at worst, this charge is going nowhere fast this time.


43 posted on 03/30/2012 7:40:04 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romney - Santorum: Twin Sons of Different Mothers...)
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To: Oceander

Since all the GOPe seems interested in nominating these days are Compassionate onservatives at best and flaming liberals at worst, this charge is going nowhere fast.


44 posted on 03/30/2012 7:41:45 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romney - Santorum: Twin Sons of Different Mothers...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gas is $4.15, Food prices have doubled. Thanks for help Obama-lama-din-dong.


45 posted on 03/30/2012 7:46:58 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama to Blacks: Take Off Your Bedroom Slippers; Stop Complaining
46 posted on 03/30/2012 7:56:46 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

From the guy who will not pay his fair share in taxes.


47 posted on 03/30/2012 8:02:15 PM PDT by KSanders
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The DNC buying vote economics


48 posted on 03/30/2012 8:02:44 PM PDT by KSanders
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All
“'You’re on your own if you’re out of work, can’t find a job. Tough luck you’re on your own. You don’t have health care: That’s your problem. You’re on your own. If you’re born into poverty, lift yourself up with your own bootstraps, even if you don’t have boots. You’re on your own. They believe that’s how America is advanced,'” he (Obama) said.

Guess he must have missed classes during the week they reviewed Madison and Jefferson on the Constitution's protections for "freedom of individual enterprise" and the "benign" influence of government on its operation.

Jefferson, that great intellectual who was chosen to write a people's Declaration of Independence from a government which assumed powers to spend, tax, and overpower citizens, in his "Notes on Religion," made an observation which, while it was directed toward oppressive ecclesiastical rules, seems to be pertinent to the current matter involving coercive government "rules":

"Notes on Religion, 1776 (Ford 2: 252-68)
"The care of every man’s soul belongs to himself. But what if he neglect the care of it? Well what if he neglect the care of his health or estate, which more nearly relate to the state. Will the magistrate make a law that he shall not be poor or sick? Laws provide against injury from others; but not from ourselves. God himself will not save men against their wills…"

Apparently, "progressives" believe they should, and therein lies a great disparity between the Founders' ideas of liberty for individuals and the so-called "progressives'" ideas of rule and control over individuals. No wonder the President views the Constitution as a document of "negative liberties." In order to fulfill the goals of its Preamble, it does place a negative on unlimited coercive government power.

Yes, the Founders' principle of freedom for individual enterprise brought America from the crude tools of ancient Europe to the most free and prosperous destination for oppressed peoples. See the following essay excerpted from "Our Ageless Constitution," a 292-page history of the ideas of liberty in America, again available after 20 years of being out of print.

Freedom Of Individual Enterprise

The Economic Dimension Of Liberty Protected By The Constitution

"Agriculture, manufactures, commerce, and navigation, the four pillars of our prosperity, are the most thriving when left most free to individual enterprise." - Thomas Jefferson

"The enviable condition of the people of the United States is often too much ascribed to the physical advantages of their soil & climate .... But a just estimate of the happiness of our country will never overlook what belongs to the fertile activity of a free people and the benign influence of a responsible government." - James Madison

America's Constitution did not mention freedom of enterprise per se, but it did set up a system of laws to secure individual liberty and freedom of choice in keeping with Creator-endowed natural rights. Out of these, free enterprise flourished naturally. Even though the words "free enterprise' are not in the Constitution, the concept was uppermost in the minds of the Founders, typified by the remarks of Jefferson and Madison as quoted above. Already, in 1787, Americans were enjoying the rewards of individual enterprise and free markets. Their dedication was to securing that freedom for posterity.

The learned men drafting America's Constitution understood history - mankind's struggle against poverty and government oppression. And they had studied the ideas of the great thinkers and philosophers. They were familiar with the near starvation of the early Jamestown settlers under a communal production and distribution system and Governor Bradford's diary account of how all benefited after agreement that each family could do as it wished with the fruits of its own labors. Later, in 1776, Adam Smith's INQUIRY INTO THE NATURE AND CAUSES OF THE WEALTH OF NATIONS and Say's POLITICAL ECONOMY had come at just the right time and were perfectly compatible with the Founders' own passion for individual liberty. Jefferson said these were the best books to be had for forming governments based on principles of freedom. They saw a free market economy as the natural result of their ideal of liberty. They feared concentrations of power and the coercion that planners can use in planning other peoples lives; and they valued freedom of choice and acceptance of responsibility of the consequences of such choice as being the very essence of liberty. They envisioned a large and prosperous republic of free people, unhampered by government interference.

The Founders believed the American people, possessors of deeply rooted character and values, could prosper if left free to:

  • acquire and own property
  • have access to free markets
  • produce what they wanted
  • work for whom and at what they wanted
  • travel and live where they would choose
  • acquire goods and services which they desired

Such a free market economy was, to them, the natural result of liberty, carried out in the economic dimension of life. Their philosophy tend­ed to enlarge individual freedom - not to restrict or diminish the individual's right to make choices and to succeed or fail based on those choices. The economic role of their Constitutional government was simply to secure rights and encourage commerce. Through the Constitution, they granted their government some very limited powers to:

Adam Smith called it "the system of natural liberty." James Madison referred to it as "the benign influence of a responsible government." Others have called it the free enterprise system. By whatever name it is called, the economic system envisioned by the Founders and encouraged by the Constitution allowed individual enterprise to flourish and triggered the greatest explosion of economic progress in all of history. Americans became the first people truly to realize the economic dimension of liberty.


Footnote: Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part III:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5

49 posted on 03/30/2012 8:29:36 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He can take his cronyism mack daddy government uber alles economics and stuff it.


50 posted on 03/30/2012 8:42:01 PM PDT by A message
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