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Rush to judgment in Trayvon Martin case
CNN ^ | William J. Bennett

Posted on 03/31/2012 9:22:47 AM PDT by matt04

At first glance, the death of Trayvon Martin seemed to be a straightforward example of ugly, racial conflict resulting in the killing of an innocent black teenager by a white man, George Zimmerman. But now, as evidence continues to come forward, the facts seem much more complicated and the "obvious truth" premature.

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To make matters more complex, we found out that in the past several months, Martin was suspended from school three times, once for the possession of drug paraphernalia.

The Miami Herald reported that in the gated community in which Zimmerman patrolled, there were eight burglaries, nine thefts and one shooting in the past year. Neighbors of Zimmerman described him as being passionate about security and credit him with thwarting and cracking some crimes. It was also revealed that Zimmerman identified himself as a Hispanic and was a registered Democrat.

The facts are confounding and inconclusive. But the tendency in the first days by some, including Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and an angry chorus of followers, was to rush to judgment with little regard for fairness, due process, or respect for the terrible death of a young man.

A mob mentality seems to be in the ascendancy.

The New Black Panther Party offered a bounty for Zimmerman's capture.

Jackson said that Martin's death shows how "blacks are under attack" and "targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business." Apart from the obvious incendiary nature of such comments, what in heaven's name could Jackson mean?

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: billbennett; blackonblackmurders; cnn; revjackson; trayvonmartin; williambennett; zimmerman; zimmermantimeline
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To: mylife; stephenjohnbanker
I will be the first to say that the entire Zimmermann/Martin moment was a tragic incident ...

You can't be the first ... you can only be the bazillionth. Our best information now, as far as I can tell, is that it was a fight that turned out fatal for one young-adult participant. Must we go on as if it were a random meteorite falling on a preschool playground?

51 posted on 03/31/2012 10:05:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Hulka

OK, you win. The bigot contest. You instantly think “Gated community” is synonymous with mansions. I’ll give you the win there.


52 posted on 03/31/2012 10:05:57 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Tax-chick

Yeah, it doesn’t look as if Tres Bon was so very good after all, LOL!


53 posted on 03/31/2012 10:05:57 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I tried to buy a hoodie today but the store manager said they had all been shoplifted.)
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To: matt04

They still can’t get it correct:

“The New Black Panther Party offered a bounty for Zimmerman’s capture.”

The New Black Panther Party offered a bounty for Zimmerman’s capture, DEAD OR ALIVE.

Fixed it.


54 posted on 03/31/2012 10:05:57 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: matt04
Another random act of distraction from ComNN.

Meanwhile, the silence on Whispergate is deafening!!!
55 posted on 03/31/2012 10:09:00 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: Williams

It would not surprise me if CNN pressured BB into adding that disclaimer. Sort of like the “this was a tragedy” meme that even Fox News is using.


56 posted on 03/31/2012 10:10:35 AM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: Humble Servant

I didn’t realize that this was Dr. Bennett... so much for CNN.


57 posted on 03/31/2012 10:11:22 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Anyone But Obama in November !!!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
"You're looking von today, darling ... tres von!"
58 posted on 03/31/2012 10:11:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Keith in Iowa; Hulka
Except for his typo, which I didn't notice until he pointed it out, Hulka's description is right on the money. Dinky townhouses densely packed with one-car garages. Recently constructed (some of Bing's oblique photography shows the complex under rapid construction).

Take a tour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVGeFAvzqyA (Uploaded Mar 28, 2010).

There is a front and a back entrance. The property is walled in. There is no gate at the front entrance (by the clubhouse), although the back entrance does have one.

You can see an annotated map here:

F is where the fatal fight occurred. D was where Martin was staying.

59 posted on 03/31/2012 10:11:59 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mylife

Has martial law ever been declared in a country where the citizens are armed to the teeth?

It will be interesting to see if Obama actually tries it, and even more interesting to see if the military actually attempts to enforce it, and even more interesting to see the response from the citizenry if they do attempt to enforce it.


60 posted on 03/31/2012 10:12:24 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (.)
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To: funfan

Trayvon was killed for WWB in a GC.

Thats what some pinhead black caucus congress critter declared!

“Walking while black in a gated community”

What horse ass arrogance

Zimmerman alerted on the martin because he was not local and rightly so.
Martin went off on Zimmerman because he felt dissed.
Tragedy resulted.

That’s what I think happened given what we know.

I know this, Gangbanger punks flaunt the law.
Some cop wanna be’s go to far

I learned at a young age that there is no percentage in escalating matters of the law.

Keep your head, and tell it to the judge.


61 posted on 03/31/2012 10:16:46 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: matt04

“Boy, we f%&*d that one up. Let’s walk this backward with suedo intellectual explanations for how even “We” the self righteous, erudite and experienced can get it wrong”.

Synthetic embarrassment and manufactured obtuse apology.

Gosh. Gee. Oh? Well now I don’t know.

Really? Yuh Bullshite artistic were ready, literally ready, to film the hangman as he slipped the rope over Zimmerman and then gleefully proclaim all is better in the world for justice being meted out the way you see fit.

You are completely ambivalent about how many innocent people will get hit as you gin this to the point of rioting.

Good for your ratings though, huh?

You are soulless ....


62 posted on 03/31/2012 10:18:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: HerrBlucher

Yes,it happened in the Wiemar republic.

It has happened many times.


63 posted on 03/31/2012 10:20:25 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: skinkinthegrass; catnipman

Valid points both. CYA is a distinct possibility.

I would personally hope this change of tune goes deeper than that, because what has occurred in this country in the past couple of weeks and what has been purposely done to George Zimmerman really goes beyond my ability to even describe with words.

America is diseased. She is stricken with multiple cancers, all of them malignant. I really don’t know if she will survive at this point.

And I am going to say this.

Black people need to check themselves hardcore. Your culture is toxic. It is poison. And it is lethal to your people. You are behaving as fools. I suggest strongly that you go back to your roots, find what it is that you lost, no, find what it is that was taken from you, because if you don’t it may well spell your doom.


64 posted on 03/31/2012 10:21:51 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: HerrBlucher

Yes,it happened in the Wiemar republic.

It has happened many times.

I cant help feeling that Trayvon is a Reichstag fire.


65 posted on 03/31/2012 10:21:59 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Hulka's point was that the media was trying to convey the area where Zimmerman lived was an exclusive community. That's why they keep referring it to a "gated community". The idea was to play on people's emotions to make them think "Oh! So Zimmerman thought that Martin didn't belong there because he was black and he was in a 'gated', i.e. 'privileged', community".

You, obviously, were not fooled by the "news" media's attempt to spin the story and make you think what they want you to think. Kudos to you. But rest assured, there are many who followed the media straight down that path!

66 posted on 03/31/2012 10:22:52 AM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: HerrBlucher

If I was Zimmerman I would after cleared do some interviews and charge an outrageous price and then hightail it to unknown places. and retire in comfort.


67 posted on 03/31/2012 10:23:00 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: matt04


68 posted on 03/31/2012 10:23:34 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: matt04

Interesting battle in the comments to this article. At least one very good writer (happens to be conservative) and one total lunatic who keeps repeating that Zimmerman followed Martin with his “gun drawn”.


69 posted on 03/31/2012 10:24:29 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: matt04

Who’da thunk it, CNN actually getting a clue?

Of course it did take Bill Bennett to write it.


70 posted on 03/31/2012 10:25:46 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Jane Austen

I know NBC News did. They edited out the dispatchers question where they asked if he was white, black or Hispanic and just kept Zimmerman saying he was black. I believe the MRC covered it.


71 posted on 03/31/2012 10:27:38 AM PDT by matt04
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To: jeffc

And I’m smart enough to not fall for that meme, because I know “gated Community” can be anything from a mobile home park to a place that has apartments, condos, and town-homes behind the gates - it does not automatically mean there are mansions behind the gates like that prejudiced, bigot that calls me dishonest does.


72 posted on 03/31/2012 10:31:33 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: matt04
The leading cause of death for black male teenagers is homicide, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. Of all the black homicide victims, about 93% are killed by other black people. In 2011, nearly 85% of all people murdered in Philadelphia were black.

Feral blacks are murdering each other in record numbers and the rev al and rev jesse are mute.

73 posted on 03/31/2012 10:33:19 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: All
At worst for zimmerman he will get manslaughter, and he will only get that because the law is convoluted.

At worst for us in society is we have to tear down the gates and allow the predators to prowl and loot.

A socialist utopia

74 posted on 03/31/2012 10:34:05 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: biggredd1

I wonder if Trayvon took his gold teeth to the grave or if they “disappeared” at the funeral home.


75 posted on 03/31/2012 10:35:55 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Keith in Iowa

Sorry, Keith in Iowa, I agree with Hulka, and I think most reasonable people would. Using the term “gated community” conjures up the image of big, expensive houses, often with a manned security entrance. Not a complex of apartments or condos with locked gates to allow entrance. My neighbor has a second house in the back of his property which he rents out, and he has fences and gates to restrict access to both the houses. By your reasoning, that should also be referred to as a “gated community.” Words and phrases DO have implied meanings, and can’t always just be taken literally. And I believe like Hulka, that there is a hidden agenda in most of the media when using that term in this case, as difficult to believe as that seems to you.


76 posted on 03/31/2012 10:36:58 AM PDT by norcal joe
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To: norcal joe

People who jump to that conclusion are prejudiced, and bigoted. You’re in good company with Hulka. Congrats on that.


77 posted on 03/31/2012 10:44:36 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Tax-chick

We cant call a spade a spade now can we?

The truth is that Trayvon was subject to a bad attitude.

@No_Limit_Nigga

I didnt put that chip on his shoulder.
He did.


78 posted on 03/31/2012 10:45:01 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: thethirddegree
I wonder if Trayvon took his gold teeth to the grave or if they “disappeared” at the funeral home.

You should shop for same before assuming they'd be worth stealing.

E.g., Billy-Bob Products has 'em for $13 customized (LOL).

79 posted on 03/31/2012 10:45:31 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Keith in Iowa

I think that if Trayvon had not been shot in self deffense by Zimmerman, he was ontrack to live in a taxpayer supported “gated community” of his own—Zimmerman saved the taxpayers of Florida a lot of money.


80 posted on 03/31/2012 10:46:38 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: norcal joe

And i DO see exactly what the media is doing, but I’m smart enough to see past it.


81 posted on 03/31/2012 10:47:26 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: libstripper

I can’t stand Shep Smith. I had read previous reports on FR that he was making nice to another man in a NY bar.


82 posted on 03/31/2012 10:49:49 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Jeff Chandler; Tax-chick

Trey bon = Trey mal : )


83 posted on 03/31/2012 10:53:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: matt04

The author may be a bit too conservative for most leftists though . . .


84 posted on 03/31/2012 10:59:57 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Tax-chick

Tres bon!


85 posted on 03/31/2012 11:01:05 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Keith in Iowa; norcal joe; Hulka
Sorry, Keith in Iowa, I agree with Hulka, and I think most reasonable people would. Using the term “gated community” conjures up the image of big, expensive houses, often with a manned security entrance.

Me too.

86 posted on 03/31/2012 11:05:57 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well as the NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus)
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To: VeniVidiVici

You’re prejudiced too? Congratulations.


87 posted on 03/31/2012 11:08:25 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: matt04
Not bad for CNN BUT look at all the qualifiers for Bill Bennett! A moderate, RINO, GOPe at best.

Let me analyze just a part of Bill's article.

“At first, it was thought”
BY WHOM? MEDIA? YOU?
“that Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, was the aggressor”
WHERE WOULD ANYONE GET THAT IDEA? An eye witness, John, told the police that night that Zimmerman was attacked by Martin. (police arrived on scene 26 Feb 7:17 pm.) Told a Fox 35 reporter, THE NEXT DAY, (Monday, 27 Feb 2012, 4:55 PM EST) That Martin was the attacker, and Zimmerman was crying out for help.

Read more: Published : Monday, 27 Feb 2012, 4:55 PM EST

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/022712-man-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1qiXUM3an http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/022712-man-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1qiXUM3an

“because he followed Martin,” Initially yes, but gave up doing that after being told he need not continue to follow suspicious subject, and was returning to his car when attacked BY MARTIN.

“got into a physical scuffle with him and shot him.” WOW how big a truck can I drive through this brilliant statement?

Insinuating that Zimmerman started a fight with Martin and Zimmerman immediately shot Martin.

“But then” NO, IN THE BEGINNING!

“some witnesses” ???? How about an EYE and EAR witness whose apartment windows over look (in very close proximity) to the beating and shooting.

“claim” ???? Just a “claim”? How about testified, reported, told police, stated unequivocally, how about one of those instead?

“that Martin attacked Zimmerman first” FIRST? implying what? That Zimmerman had attacked Martin first earlier? First “this time”? The word “first” in this sentence is totally unnecessary and only confuses the issue.

“and the initial police report said that Zimmerman had blood on his nose and the back of his head after the incident.” While accurate, it is not the whole truth and self serving, when seemingly contradicted by the immediate following sentence...

“However”, AH HA! NOW the REAL truth.

“surveillance video footage that surfaced from the police station is leading to questions about the extent of Zimmerman's injuries.”

“leading to questions about” how long you've been beating your wife.

This claim is just despicable. The video shows NO SUCH THING. The video (enhanced) actually shows the exact opposite! Tieing this video to an assumption that Zimmerman was not injured, is disgusting! Propaganda by a Marxist press. WHY? Just to strike a match in a room full of dynamite or gun powder?

The news media in this country is the REAL enemy. It's not Obama, Reid, or Pelosi. THEY MUST BE DESTROYED! Confronted at every opportunity. We can win total victory only after the Marxist media is defeated.

88 posted on 03/31/2012 11:20:35 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: matt04

Our president was actually the lead man holding the rope to lynch Zimmerman. And all the useful democrat fools fell right in step. Rosanne, Sharpton, Lee, Jackson, MSM to name a few. We must politically destroy these socialist democrat losers who would turn the US into a third world country to satisfy their WARPED IDEALOGICAL VIEWS. The democrats think 2010 was bad, they ain’t seen bad yet, but it coming real soon.


89 posted on 03/31/2012 11:21:36 AM PDT by spawn44
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To: matt04

This is an attempt at CYA. They have led the klam with a tan rally and they have blood on their hands. People have been murdered by racist blacks as a result of the CNN’s race hate incitment.


90 posted on 03/31/2012 11:21:51 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: bcsco
The possibility of getting sued can cause so called journalism/newspapers/TV people to correct mistakes. Richard Jewell did everyone a favor by suing the media for slander and malicious gossip. With the Internet, they cannot get by all the time with their lies.....
91 posted on 03/31/2012 11:26:45 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: blueunicorn6

According to police, One shot, body face down on the ground with hands underneath.


92 posted on 03/31/2012 11:37:52 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

” The news media in this country is the REAL enemy. It’s not Obama, Reid, or Pelosi. THEY MUST BE DESTROYED! Confronted at every opportunity. We can win total victory only after the Marxist media is defeated. “

FACT!!


93 posted on 03/31/2012 11:45:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: goat granny

I live in a “gated community” in Palm Beach County. I figure that it is about 10% minority. Usually no problems. Kids of all colors play and skateboard in the streets together.


94 posted on 03/31/2012 11:46:52 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Keith in Iowa
Good Lord, give it a rest, Keith.

No doubt about it, when people hear the term Gated Community, most envision a McMansion conclave.

Nothing more, nothing less...and says nothing about the person who makes the most common assumption.

95 posted on 03/31/2012 11:49:49 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Keith in Iowa
You’re prejudiced too? Congratulations.

Thanks!

If wherever you go folks tell you they smell fish, at a certain point you have to start thinking it might not be them.

96 posted on 03/31/2012 11:52:48 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well as the NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus)
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To: eddie willers

>>>No doubt about it, when people hear the term Gated Community, most envision a McMansion conclave.

They would be bigots. And prejudiced. I’m not among them.


97 posted on 03/31/2012 11:54:11 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Tax-chick

Mountain, meet molehill : )


98 posted on 03/31/2012 11:54:52 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: matt04
-- A random act of journalism from CNN. --

It's an op-ed from a token conservative.

99 posted on 03/31/2012 11:59:57 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

CNN made sure that they didn’t use one of their own.


100 posted on 03/31/2012 12:16:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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