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Bloody rampage sparked by disrespect at Miami-Dade wake
Miami Herald ^ | March 31, 2012 | Monique O. Madan, David Ovalle and Patricia Mazzei

Posted on 04/01/2012 6:21:23 AM PDT by Zakeet

The mass shooting that killed two people and wounded 12 others near North Miami began with a perceived sign of disrespect at the wake of a man who had jumped to his death from a shopping mall parking garage.

The act of reaching into the casket to touch the body of 21-year-old Morvin Andre escalated into a deadly conflict among gang members who opened fire into a gathering of mourners.

They had gone to the Funeraria Latina funeral home Friday night to grieve for Andre, who had died March 16 after jumping from a parking garage at Aventura Mall. The remembrance of his death turned into one of the bloodiest public shootings in recent South Florida history.

The end of Andre’s life was traumatic, but in a different way.

He had tried to use a stolen platinum American Express card to buy something — possibly a belt — at Bloomingdale’s, according to Aventura police. Store employees suspected credit-card fraud.

Andre took off, running into the mall’s parking garage and then up a stairwell to the fourth floor. From the floor below, employees called out that they just wanted to ask him some questions.

Instead, Andre jumped. It was a 22-and-a-half-foot drop.

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The cover of Morvin Andre's funeral program

1 posted on 04/01/2012 6:21:30 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
Instead, Andre jumped. It was a 22-and-a-half-foot drop.

If Obama had a son, he would be a dumbass.

2 posted on 04/01/2012 6:26:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: Zakeet
Instead, Andre jumped. It was a 22-and-a-half-foot drop.

Falling 22.5 feet won't kill you.

Now, when you hit the ground, that's another thing entirely!

3 posted on 04/01/2012 6:29:15 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Haggai 1, V6.. and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes. (My plight))
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To: Zakeet

A punk trying to use a Platinum Amex? What a dumbass. Any remorse over this gangsta slug is wasted. He saved the world from future murders IMO.


4 posted on 04/01/2012 6:30:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ClearCase_guy
The Miami-Dade medical examiner ruled his death a suicide

The ME is an idiot. A suicide is an intentional act. This guy wasn't trying to kill himself, he was trying to get away.

His death was an accident, the result of a very bad decision.

5 posted on 04/01/2012 6:30:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ClearCase_guy
So where's the outrage, where's the riots and storming of Wallmart and liquor stores?
6 posted on 04/01/2012 6:30:42 AM PDT by shadeaud ( “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8”. Just doing my duty a Christian)
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To: Zakeet

For the record, I would consider a group of people opening fire on the crowd of mourners at my funeral a sign of disrespect.


7 posted on 04/01/2012 6:35:20 AM PDT by B.Lyle
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To: shadeaud

Where are the libs screaming for the law of gravity to be repealed?


8 posted on 04/01/2012 6:38:12 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Zakeet

I’m really surprised a Primative Baptist Church agreed to do the service.

If he didn’t know Christ (and his actions indicated he didn’t) he busted the doors of hell wide open.


9 posted on 04/01/2012 6:38:29 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Zakeet

New Jerusalem Primitive Baptist Church. Primitive part is apparently accurate.


10 posted on 04/01/2012 6:39:33 AM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: Zakeet
Instead, Andre jumped.

Be great if anyone remotely associated with this spectacle, from family members, to the funeral home staff, to the printer of the ridiculous program, followed suit.

Instead they will all be out voting in November.

11 posted on 04/01/2012 6:41:22 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum voted against Right toWork)
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To: JewishRighter

Har!


12 posted on 04/01/2012 6:42:16 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum voted against Right toWork)
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To: Graybeard58

“Falling 22.5 feet won’t kill you.

Now, when you hit the ground, that’s another thing entirely!”

Especially if you go head first.

Seriously, if he made a clean landing on his feet, he might have suffered foot/ankle and/or leg injuries. In all likelihood, the landing area was not conducive to a clean landing and he probably did end up striking his head or breaking his neck.


13 posted on 04/01/2012 6:43:03 AM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: Zakeet

Gotta love black culture.


14 posted on 04/01/2012 6:43:45 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Graybeard58
Instead, Andre jumped. It was a 22-and-a-half-foot drop.
From the article - "Andre took off, running into the mall’s parking garage and then up a stairwell to the fourth floor."
Four floors have to be higher than 22.5 feet. You'd think one of three "journalists" on the byline would get the facts straight.
15 posted on 04/01/2012 6:49:11 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Zakeet

These gangbangers should learn to get a little self-respect before they start shooting each other up over getting disrespected. The only reason they feel disrespected is because they have no self-respect. For all the purported toughness that gangsters attempt to project it’s so funny how fragile their egos are, and they meltdown like creampuffs over the most casual slight whether real or imagined.


16 posted on 04/01/2012 6:49:11 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled
For all the purported toughness that gangsters attempt to project it’s so funny how fragile their egos are, and they meltdown like creampuffs over the most casual slight whether real or imagined.
Exactly the same as Liberals.
17 posted on 04/01/2012 6:51:19 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Another report says he jumped from 4th to 2nd.


18 posted on 04/01/2012 6:54:32 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Zakeet

Primitive indeed.


19 posted on 04/01/2012 6:56:46 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Not Romney - Not ever!)
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To: oh8eleven

“Exactly the same as Liberals.”

Exactly. That’s why the liberals are so into this political correctness nonsense and speech police crap because if they sense that anyone does not exactly mirror their world view they have an existential crisis and ego meltdown.


20 posted on 04/01/2012 6:57:32 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Rome2000
Be great if anyone remotely associated with this spectacle, from family members, to the funeral home staff, to the printer of the ridiculous program, followed suit.

I'd SOOO pay to see that.

Have them all lined up and jumping one-by-one - the crowd roaring after every splat.

21 posted on 04/01/2012 7:03:20 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: JewishRighter

“New Jerusalem Primitive Baptist Church. Primitive part is apparently accurate.”

Inaccurate and innappropriate.

The “Dear Departed” certainly showed the primitive thought processes and behaviors typical of the Urban Feral population.

However, that in no way can be tied to teh church which does do its best to actively remind its members of the basics of the teachings of a certaain Jewish carpenter of long ago.

As that carpenter would not have tolerated the Urban Feral behavior patterns, and as this church follows those beliefs, I suggest that conflation of the deceased Urban Feral with the church in which his funeral was being held is, arguably, an error.

Please not that I refrained from comment on the younger members/visitors of that church, as their behavior speaks for itself


22 posted on 04/01/2012 7:03:36 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Zakeet

Drive-By Shooting At North Miami Funeral For Morvin Andre Injures 14 Mourners, Kills

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/31/drive-by-shooting-at-funeral-miami-marvin-andre_n_1393399.html

Gunmen in a passing car fired into a crowd of mourners outside a Northeast Miami-Dade funeral home Friday night, injuring at least 14 people and leaving 2 dead, according to preliminary reports.

Officiating pastor A.D. Lenoir said services for Andre had just concluded, leaving a large crowd standing outside Funeraria Latina Emanuel on West Dixie Highway when at least one person inside a white Pontiac or Impala opened fire around 9 p.m.


23 posted on 04/01/2012 7:09:10 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sherman Logan

“His death was an accident, the result of a very bad decision.”

Yes, of course you are right. Maybe that’s a local thing, they rule any death by your own actions a suicide even if it wasn’t meant to be.

This is really some story. I find it hard to believe the guy wasn’t in a gang, otherwise why would a. the gangsters be at his funeral and b. take such “offense” at whatever some person did.

Where’s rev Al?


24 posted on 04/01/2012 7:11:24 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

People frequently, maybe usually, survive a 22 foot drop, depending of course on what you land on.

But I suspect they don’t often hit the ground, jump to their feet and run away at high speed.

Except in movies.


25 posted on 04/01/2012 7:16:19 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Zakeet
“...at the wake of a man who had jumped to his death from a shopping mall parking garage.”

They make it sound like it was suicide. More likely he died while trying to escape by jumping from the building.

26 posted on 04/01/2012 7:20:35 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Zakeet
Police had not released information about the shooters, only that a white car may have been involved.

Heh.

You can bet there won't be any snitchn'.

27 posted on 04/01/2012 7:20:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: GladesGuru

I was referring only to the adjective “primitive”. Whatever the implications of a religious institution calling itself a Church, when modified by the word primitive, you have to wonder what religious doctrine is actually preached or followed.


28 posted on 04/01/2012 7:21:16 AM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: Zakeet

His mugshot (from a previous arrest) shows him much darker than the program for his funeral. They turned him white after his death?!

http://www.thetrollhouse.net/forum/index.php/topic,10315.msg110245.html


29 posted on 04/01/2012 7:21:51 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Salvavida
Worth re-reading about the Primitive Baptist Church (we know of three members ~ John Leland who wrote the First Amendment (and invented gospel music), Abe Lincoln's father and Abe LIncoln's mother.

This one is part of the currently "larger" wing known as the African-American Primitive Baptist Church ~ and they are also known to use musical instruments.

Theologically this division of Baptists are probably as close as you can get to the Christian Church Movement and still use Baptist in the name.

Now, about using their building for a memorial service, there are folks out there who RENT church facilities for that purpose. Can't tell from the news pieces what the reason is in this case so looked up the church on the net and they have some videos. In one the preacher announces a new Saturday "HEAT SERVICE". In another there's a PRAISE SERVICE. They use a drum set while standing in place and bouncing (No Dancing in this group).

30 posted on 04/01/2012 7:23:49 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sherman Logan
Do they still have the "Death by Misadventure" classification?

Seems appropriate here.

31 posted on 04/01/2012 7:26:37 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: oh8eleven

Correct. Except the surface he landed on may not have been at grade. Possibly he jumped to a second-story roof, which would be about the right height.


32 posted on 04/01/2012 7:27:45 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: nonliberal
I thought black guys could jump.

Photobucket

33 posted on 04/01/2012 7:29:39 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: Zakeet

“Money Marv” should have been called “Someone else’s Money Marv” since it was all ovbiously stolen and he sure as hell didn’t earn it and his family thought that name was CUTE!

“senior police commander told CBS4 investigative reporter Jim DeFede that Andre had some connection to several South Florida gangs and some of those gang members were in attendance at his wake to pay their respects”

But he was a good boy says his Momma. /s


34 posted on 04/01/2012 7:33:24 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Zakeet

No sign of Jackson or Sharpton protesting these crimes.


35 posted on 04/01/2012 7:33:47 AM PDT by kenmcg (How)
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To: AtlasStalled

Actually, Shakespeare laid out the dynamics perfectly in Romeo and Juliet.

The young bucks of the local aristocracy have nothing to do but strut around and get into trouble, and they react exactly like this. Tybalt, Benvolio, Mercutio, et al.

But they do talk a lot purtier! :)


36 posted on 04/01/2012 7:34:31 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: JewishRighter

Not being a Christian, I am not too familiar with their nomenclature/taxonomy, but I think it refers to a form of Christianity more akin to what Jesus and his followers practiced than a later and more organized form.

Behavior of the funeral attendees/visitors certainly was primitive in the worst sense of the word.


37 posted on 04/01/2012 7:35:42 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Zakeet
Andre took off, running into the mall’s parking garage and then up a stairwell to the fourth floor. From the floor below, employees called out that they just wanted to ask him some questions.

If any of these employees are white, than the whole thing is their fault.

38 posted on 04/01/2012 7:35:52 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: ClearCase_guy

You got that right.


39 posted on 04/01/2012 7:39:43 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
"Do they still have the "Death by Misadventure" classification? Seems appropriate here."

If I was the coroner, I'd have ruled it a justifiable suicide.

40 posted on 04/01/2012 7:43:22 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: B.Lyle

Consider this an RSVP.


41 posted on 04/01/2012 7:47:46 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Zakeet

Question is: was he being chased by Black, White, or Hispanic people. It’ll depend whether Sharpton or Jackson want to get involved.


42 posted on 04/01/2012 7:50:20 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse)
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To: Zakeet
But he was going to college, don't ya know.

“Andre — “Better known as Money Marv,” according to the program — graduated from North Miami Beach Senior High School in 2009 and was studying at Broward College.”

Morvin, not to be confused with that “cracker” name Marvin.

We have to be different. We have to be “special”. We are “unique” ( you na cue).

43 posted on 04/01/2012 7:52:21 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Zakeet

“Sunrise . . . Sunset”. There is a flat marble marker, with similar inscription, name and and dates, on a woods trail a mile up the road from my place in North Louisiana where a gang-banger from Shreveport was executed by his gang brothers about 8 years ago. Took local law enforcement about a week to get an ID on him. As far as I know, no one has ever been arrested. I guess he dissed his brothers.


44 posted on 04/01/2012 7:53:30 AM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: Zakeet

I should have known that they were my cousins! That’s just what we do....face palm


45 posted on 04/01/2012 7:56:11 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: GladesGuru
Guru, jump in the boat and start looking for an island nation populated by violent cannibals. The drums say, "We need more DIVERSITY!"

BTW, I wonder if the shooters had valid CCW permits?

46 posted on 04/01/2012 7:56:48 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Graybeard58
Falling 22.5 feet won't kill you.

I agree, it's the sudden stop that's a problem.
47 posted on 04/01/2012 7:59:37 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: B.Lyle

What’s with this whole concept of ghetto people being pissed off and feeling disrespected or “dissed” all the time?

This isn’t the first time someone was killed because of being “dissed”, according to the ghetto code of behavior.

To most of us normal people, we feel “dissed” everyday by the way some people treat us, and by some people’s behavior, however, it doesn’t prompt us to go shoot somebody. What is it about the ghetto code of conduct, which prompts them to settle all slights, real and imagined, with violence????


48 posted on 04/01/2012 8:00:15 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: kcvl
mugshot (from a previous arrest) shows him much darker than the program for his funeral.

Where the heck have you been, computerwise? That's Photoshop's Latest Feature:

The Posthumous Melanin Adjuster PMA

Treyvon's partisans have obviously also purchased Photoshop's PAA i.e., The Posthumous Age Adjuster.

49 posted on 04/01/2012 8:02:49 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Zakeet
Bloody rampage sparked by .. rabid barbarians wanting capture and execution.

I started to type 'animals', but animals are better than that.

50 posted on 04/01/2012 8:03:31 AM PDT by tomkat
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