Posted on 04/01/2012 10:26:15 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Global Warming Denialism ‘Just Foolishness,’ Scientist Peter Raven Says
U.S. prestige falling as world has ‘pretty well given up’ on any American leadership facing climate change.
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Nature’s Edge Notebook #23
Observation, Analysis, Reflection, New Questions
One of the world’s most widely known and respected senior scientists tells ABC News that current denial about the basic daunting realities of manmade global warming is “just foolishness.”
He also reports that the rest of the world has now “pretty well given up” on its hope for U.S. leadership in dealing with global climate change.
His assessment reinforces our findings at the recent global climate summit in Durban, South Africa, that the vigorous anti-climate science movement in the United States has significantly damaged American prestige among European leaders who are struggling to deal with the daunting impacts of global warming.
Peter Raven, co-inventor in 1964, along with biologist Paul R. Ehrlich, of the bedrock concept of co-evolution (see footnote below), has long been a trusted adviser of American presidents, many other heads of state and government, religious leaders including popes, and countless congressional, academic and scientific leaders in the United States and around the world.
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Yep, that grant money always amounts to some kind of trouble. It’d be curious to go back and find where we started handing out science grant money. I doubt if it was going on in the 1920s or prior.
“He also reports that the rest of the world has now “pretty well given up” on its hope for U.S. leadership in dealing with global climate change.”
Ok?
Then let the “rest of the world” implement all of the kooky measures they want to fight the weather.
Unless this whole thing was nothing more than some scam to cripple the U.S. economy and standard of living in order to redistribute our wealth to 3rd world dumps.
And how does this differ from treatment of non-believers during the Spanish Inquisition?
Yes, fighting mother nature, and the past and ongoing history of the world, is going to change nothing. Except of course, giving nutcase liberals a reason to exist and deny the rights of others.....
So what is new, right?
Yes. Just Foolishness.
Plummetting temperatures worldwide shows that Mother Nature is only 'Just Foolishness.
The people who produced the emails that show collaborative 'scientific' fraud as regards Glow-Bull Warming? 'Just Foolishness'.
Individuals that point out that Solar Maximums and Minimums are the true source of temperature variations? You guessed it: 'Just Foolishness'.
Raven, you are the worst kind of ass. You have NOTHING to do with science.
Senior Scientist = Junior Birdman.....”Up In The Airrrr UPSIDE DOWN!”
No torture.
Yet.
“U.S. leadership” is codespeak for “U.S. money.”
The commie “manmade climate change” believers have taken up a new tactic. Insulting Americans. Yeah! That’ll work. LOL! I’ve always known those loony, “manmade climate change” believers weren’t very bright.
Well, listening to these insufferable boors is sheer torture, so I guess it doesn't differ much at all. Personally I prefer the rack.
Europe has significantly cut back on green energy projects, more so than us. Plus, they are "struggling to deal with the daunting aspects" of one of the worst winters in memory, where whole towns were cut off and homes buried in snow, in normally moderate winter areas.
Ping.
Another botanist with expertise in climate science.
That said, he authored (or co-authored, I forget) just about the finest botany textbook one could ever read.
That does not excuse the good Dr. Raven, however, from the anti-scientific-method pot banging and fear-mongering alarmism that is global warmism.
(In fact, it makes it worse, as he knows how science works, and knows that that Alinskyesque squashing of dissent is contrary to our basic science principles, and is really no different from faking results.)
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Just when we were all comfortable thinking the world is round, the warmers come along demanding we all think it is flat again. Ignore them until they go away. Sounds like that is beginning to happen.
This BS starts as soon as the weather gets warmer.
.....because a Doctor of Botany knows so much about Meteorology.
Perhaps this “scientist” would like to debate with Professor Lindzen of MIT or with Lord Monckton. He’d be destroyed.
Note to Ehrlich people are not insects! With that observation and with Ehrlich as an example of his field of study’s high intellectual standards I deserve a graduate degree in entomology!
What's a Peter Raven? and who cares?
“Science can never be prescriptive. All it can do is raise issues for the world's attention. It is politics and economics that then decide what to do about them. People who argue that the science says we must do something are being disingenuous about their true motives. If those people are also scientists, then they are abusing science. This is a tremendously important point.” --- Iain Murray, National Review, December 21, 2004
In all fairness, I would reject any opinions about biology and "conservationism" from a climate scientist or a Sea level researcher with decades of experience and world status.
Just saying.
"Experts" at anything deserve no respect when they attempt authoritatively to comment about any subject beyond their reservation.
I got to get me one of those!
I agree with you... “Scientist Peter Raven” is a botanist not a “climate scientist”, but in most cases “climate scientist” is a misnomer these days. Leftist anti-capitalist climate activist would be more accurate in most cases.
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He say that as if it's a BAD thing.
*chuckle*
If the past 100 years is any indication, the US has a pretty good track record of resisting global “movements” originating in Europe, and we’ve been validated every time.
It is CRIMINAL for faux Scientists to promote the lie of globull warming... just as it is Criminal for a non natural born citizen to become president.
LLS
One to many trips to the bong!
Michael Savage has a doctorate in food, so he is just as qualified and he says it's a load o' crap.
If there is any justice in the world, once a "respected" senior scientist makes such a foolish statement, he should find that he no longer deserves or commands such respect.
“Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”
Well Pete, who caused the Global Warming 500 years ago? Ford, GM or Conservatives? It is most likely the Sun! ooops!
Yes, but it's our fault for not providing them with leadership. Leadership is global-speak for money, of course.
Americans
Broadcasting
Communism
That’s the thing that kills me about this stuff. Many of these so-call climate expert PhDs really have little to no training in the core physical processes involved here. I have an MSME, with a strong academic background in fluid mechanics, heat transfer (conduction, convection, and radiation), diffusion, and thermodynamics - in short, the key physical sciences at the heart of “weather”. I guarantee most of these clowns know less than I’ve forgotten in these areas.
I know enough to know that if it is “consensus”, it isn’t science. What it is, is a way to keep a check coming in. Government money has badly corrupted science, and this may be the biggest damage to our society from The Great Anthropogenic Global Warming Scam.
Oh, just damn! This guy was big buddies with Paul Ehrlich? That explains much. Ehrlich is an anti-human alarmist from way back.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon%E2%80%93Ehrlich_wager
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Nobody’s made more money off this than algore.
The Europeans have made it another tax.
If they were really worries about warming, they cuold just put an additive in jet fuel and we’d be freezing in no time.
Which American Presidents?
What other "heads of state and government"?
Which religious leaders?
Which Pope?
Countless congressional (oxymoron)?
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on the "academic...leaders" around the world. But standing in a crowd of 30K people to see the pope doesn't constitute advisement. Attending a fund raiser for Hillary Clinton doesn't make him a "presidential advisor."
I've never heard of him and he sounds dillusional.
Very true. I'm an engineer today. But if I were to get an interview on MSNBC and preach about how CO2 was killing mother earth, they would change my title to Climate Scientist, give me an honorary PHD from Stanford, have me sign an IPCC document and hand me a check for $5,000 and maybe even call me Reverand....."Reverand Tenacious1, PHD"... Hmmm.
Now that I think about it, I hope I didn't completely miss the boat on this one.
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