Posted on 04/02/2012 7:00:20 AM PDT by Cubs Fan
Edited on 04/02/2012 8:00:02 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
But if this is so, then it is strong evidence that Trayvon Martin started the physical confrontation and that zimmerman, being bruised and nattered, fired in self defense.
Doesn’t bruising require a beating heart and takes minutes to form? No apparent bruising would be expected for Martin.
It is better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.
Ok, I can’t find the link on Drudge.
And your headline is not what is at CBS.
So what story are you referring to, that no evidence of a fight supports Zimmerman?
The story contradicts Zimmerman. Obvious Troll is obvious.
Funeral director in black community backs the party line that TM didn’t start fight - no bruising on hands.
1. Medical explanation posted above.
2. What else would he say?
One news story outed the 14 year old witness and now the Mom is trying to change her son’s story.
Death threats. Bounties. President convicting Zimmerman.
The “high tech lynching” is all but complete.
Apparently bruising actually starts immediately, and even after death there is discoloration of the skin which remains as there is no blood flow.
I was in a car accident once and at emergency the doc shined a light on my skin to look for bruising, it was weird because my skin changed color under the light in a few places, then a few days there were big B/B marks.
Who knows maybe the funeral director had “the light”.
You’re totally illogical.
Zimmerman said Martin punched him, jumped him, pummeled him and beat his head on the concrete pavement.
That’s IMPOSSIBLE if there were no marks on Martin’s body.
Its really kind of incredible that an otherwise intelligent person with a predetermined opinion can look at a set of facts that proove him TOTALLY WRONG and reach the OPPOSITE conclusion.
If you were alive in 1492, you would say that Columbus was wrong and the world was really flat because he didn’t reach Asia by sailing west.
Correct. In fact bruised can take days to develop fully. If there were no tears in the skin he would look unharmed.
Sure miss an edit function. Should have been “bruises”.
Wrong. Bruises take minutes to a day to form.
Zimmerman was bruised the next day but not at police station.
Dead people don’t bruise.
So the story is bs and the funeral director is ignorant.
Isn’t there...
Confidentiality? Funderal Code of Ethics?
Family had to allow him to speak. Right?
Hmmm. Its up there now, takes you right to the CBS story.
I don’t know what’s said on the video because I’m deaf.
I gotta go look on drudge....
You need to realize this is being used to contradict Zimmerman, not support him.
The funeral director has no right to be spouting like this, it’s against his profession to do such a thing, but be that as it may...
The anti Zimmerman side is saying that Trayvon would’ve shown bruising on himself if he had repeatedly hit Zimmerman, and that no such injuries showed on his corpse.
Therefore they are saying Zimmerman (and the eyewitness) are lying about Trayvon physically attacking him.
On another thread FReepers are pointing out that dead people don’t form bruises. And Trayvon was shot and killed at about the same time he was slamming on Zimmerman.
Where did CBS dig this guy up?
Well, yes and no. There were no obvious signs of bruising that would have occurred if Zimmerman was beating Martin up. But I think what the funeral director was trying to say, to support Martin’s family, is that Martin’s hands were showing no signs that he was beating up Zimmerman.
I can’t say what hands and knuckles will show or will not show after giving a beating to someone. I think they could show scrapes and bruises, but will they ALWAYS?
CBS Link to story:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57406725/martin-funeral-director-no-signs-of-fight-on-body/
Zulu —
TO your point, boxers wear gloves to protect their hands.
But ...
grabbing a victim’s head will not make marks on your hands.
Also, it takes a hard punch on human tissue to break the skin on the knuckles. Even abrasions take a hard punch or numerous punches. Punches could have been deflected.
to wit, as an angry teen, I punched thru a (drywall) wall, both sides, in one punch, and did not break the skin on my knuckles.
IMPOSSIBLE (your word) is not necessarily a valid conclusion. Just sayin’
Dang it. Now everybody knows.
if zimmerman was on the receiving end of the beating then you woud not expect martin to exhibit any marks on his own body......but zimmerman would exhibit the marks..... your analysis is exactly backwards.
I know as a young man I absolutely had a fight in which I punched the other guy numerous times in the head. Never even a thought of hand bruises.
Next, it does not bruise you to lay hands on another and slam their head against the pavement.
It does not bruise one to sit on another while doing this.
Zimmerman apparently had the injuries of being punched in the nose, probably one good initial knockdown.
Subsequent punches probably were deflected, fended off, hence next move of slamming Z’s head back against the pavement.
Grabbing or threatening to grab Z’s gun does not cause bruising.
No one said this was a 20 minute steel cage match.
You punch a guy he falls, you jump on him and scuffle. You bang his head on the pavement. He shifts his body to the grass, pulls his gun and fires.
All this certain discussion of what happened is stupid and ill informed but the funeral director’s comments are not dispositive.
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