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FBI questions people in Trayvon Martin case, begins 'parallel investigation'
NBC News ^ | April 2, 2012 | Michael Isikoff

Posted on 04/02/2012 11:32:37 AM PDT by maggief

SANFORD, Fla. -- FBI agents on Monday were questioning potential witnesses in the Trayvon Martin shooting, confirming to NBC News that the agency had begun a "parallel investigation" that focuses on whether the teen's civil rights were violated.

Agents are seeking information on George Zimmerman's background and whether he was racially motivated when he pursued Martin after calling a 911 police dispatcher about his presence in the community, an FBI official told NBC.

The agents were at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, where Martin was shot dead by Zimmerman, the gated community's neighborhood watch captain.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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1 posted on 04/02/2012 11:32:46 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief
Why would anyone in their right mind think this is/was racial....

Remember Zimmerman didn't even KNOW he was black until after he had spoken with the 9-11 operator and time had passed...

2 posted on 04/02/2012 11:35:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: maggief
Can anyone tell me what theory might justify federal jurisdiction in this case?


3 posted on 04/02/2012 11:36:52 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: maggief

As a former Prosecutor, I have gone on record (to the consternation of some here) that I believe Zimmerman should be arrested and charged with manslaughter, I also see absolutely nothing to suggest this is a hate crime. I don’t see any Federal violation here.


4 posted on 04/02/2012 11:36:52 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: maggief

Meet the new changed FBI: MISSING THE FOREST FOR THE TREE.

Why don’t they investigate the race baiting by the media instead. Bunch of wusses.

Now we know the fix is in just like in the days, it’s all gona be about blacks and for blacks and for the government interference, period.

RAce riots and Martial Law are now being paved. THis incident and this reaction by the FBI is all Obama needed.


5 posted on 04/02/2012 11:37:13 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: nathanbedford

Mueller is in Obama’s pocket.


6 posted on 04/02/2012 11:38:57 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: nathanbedford

People in CA are complaining. Interstate commerce, dontcha know.


7 posted on 04/02/2012 11:39:28 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Perhaps you should not mention “as a former prosecutor”, because that is full of obvious conflict of obvious interests.

It might help make your case better by just plainly stating what is it you think - in terms of purifying the consciousness to higher powers of the constitution as opposed to that of a job any liberal turd can get these days.


8 posted on 04/02/2012 11:40:45 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: RIghtwardHo

” As a former Prosecutor, I have gone on record (to the consternation of some here) that I believe Zimmerman should be arrested and charged with manslaughter”

Based upon what ?


9 posted on 04/02/2012 11:40:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: nathanbedford

Just the demands of the race hustlers including Eric Holder.


10 posted on 04/02/2012 11:41:07 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: JudgemAll

I wonder how the FBI’s investigation of the Black Panthers putting out a bounty for Zimmerman dead or alive is going.

Oh, that’s right, the Black Panthers are above the law.

Let this be a lesson to all the neighborhood watches. You could be next. Someone can beat your head in the pavement, but you better not defend yourselves. What did Obama say about bringing a knife to a gun fight? You can only bring a gun if you are the right color.

The media has to stop covering this story. So sick of hearing about it. Obama is baiting a race war so that people stop talking about what a dismal failure he is.


11 posted on 04/02/2012 11:42:56 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Is he still operating? In any case you are right, he was full with muslims and CAIR.

To me Islam could have been just another greek discipline or god of softness, but it has been hysterically arrogant and jealous of Christians and Jews. Only turd liberals and communists are what Islamics are willing to submit to, maybe feeling sorry of sorts for.


12 posted on 04/02/2012 11:43:02 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: onyx

If you missed Rush this morning, he showed that NBC edited the Zimmerman tape, to paint him as a racist.


13 posted on 04/02/2012 11:43:23 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: maggief
I think this bodes well for Zimmerman, actually. What friend, acquaintance, or stranger will give testimony (under risk of false statements at least, and perjury if under oath) that is evidence of racial animus on George Zimmerman's part?
14 posted on 04/02/2012 11:44:55 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RIghtwardHo

I guess, it might be true, I have seen many liberals causes not dropped with prosecution while many Zimmerman cases dropped with prosecution, so, that is an anomaly during these days of prosecutorial liberal provocations.


15 posted on 04/02/2012 11:46:00 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I guess, it might be true, I have seen many liberals causes not dropped with prosecution while many Zimmerman cases dropped with prosecution, so, that is an anomaly during these days of prosecutorial liberal provocations.

Many cops and security guards out there get away with murder or murderous neglect.... all the funding and language fund tends that way.


16 posted on 04/02/2012 11:46:52 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yes, NBC is all in for the Trayvon side. They’re the racists.


17 posted on 04/02/2012 11:47:07 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: nathanbedford
-- Can anyone tell me what theory might justify federal jurisdiction in this case? --

It's political. The FBI does investigate allegations that are purely political. The theory is "Victim could have been the president's son, if the president had a son."

But seriously, the hook is federal hate crime violation. Might as well collect the evidence in case there is a state prosecution for manslaughter or murder.

18 posted on 04/02/2012 11:47:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: onyx; Cboldt

See post 13.


19 posted on 04/02/2012 11:48:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: maggief

“whether the teen’s civil rights were violated” =

the evidence proves it was clearly self-defense, so we can’t get him on that, so we’ll try this to get him on something, anything, to satisfy the mob blood-lust of our peeps


20 posted on 04/02/2012 11:49:05 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: RIghtwardHo

Yeah, I’d also like to know how you reached your conclusion to arrest and charge Mr Zimmerman
thx


21 posted on 04/02/2012 11:51:20 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: JudgemAll
RAce riots and Martial Law are now being paved.

I hope to be wrong with this but I'm afraid we are in for a long hot summer, now that media can incite at will and without fear of being liable for its actions...

22 posted on 04/02/2012 11:51:49 AM PDT by oyez ( Yomomacare going done once, going down twice, going---..)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
-- Based upon what ? --

Facts not in evidence.

The death of an unarmed individual by someone carrying a gun is plenty of probably cause. If stand your ground applies, it more than likely applies for Treyvon. Furthermore, because Zimmerman followed Treyvon after being told not to puts him in a position that he will probably be unable to avail himself of standard self-defense OR stand your ground.
04/01/2012 10:17:22 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
23 posted on 04/02/2012 11:53:13 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RIghtwardHo
"I believe Zimmerman should be arrested and charged with manslaughter"

I have to ask; what evidence have you seen that suggests this is appropriate? To me, the 2 most solid bits of evidence to the contrary are:

1) Police dispatcher telling him (about following Martin) "We don't need you to do that" and Zimmerman responding "Ok", then stating he lost the guy. 2) an eyewitness stating he was physically present and witnessed Zimmerman being held down and beaten and Zimmerman yelling for help to which the witness replied he was going to go call e911.

We haven't seen the medical reports or a lot of other things just yet so I'm unwilling to make any assumptions about what we will see. Everything else is speculation... even the part about Zimmerman claiming Martin was trying to get hold of his gun and threatening to kill him... all unsubstantiated.

24 posted on 04/02/2012 11:53:48 AM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: onyx

I believe that tape edit is actionable, in a court of law. Possibly criminal as well. Rush had to clear this show content with his attorney, no doubt.


25 posted on 04/02/2012 11:54:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: maggief
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26 posted on 04/02/2012 11:55:24 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: RIghtwardHo
As a former Prosecutor, I have gone on record (to the consternation of some here) that I believe Zimmerman should be arrested and charged with manslaughter,

Of some? LOL!

Also, I'm sure that since you were a prosecutor, you are the only one able to render a good opinion of what happened, and what should happen. Sarc/
27 posted on 04/02/2012 11:56:00 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: oyez
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28 posted on 04/02/2012 11:58:11 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Cboldt

The theory is “Victim could have been the president’s son, if the president had a son.”

So sick of this stuff, willing to get banned:

“What exactly does a half Kenyan/Half White and South Chicago Values Wookie Teenager look like”? Cha-Cha & Malaria don’t count, as i’m sure a full-body waxing/fang file-down was part of the deal for admission to Sidwell Friends.

If I saw one in its natural state, I’d promise it a vacation on the taxpayer dime, throw some beef jerky at it & hope Jack Links was filming a SuperBowl commercial.

Ban away...it was TOTALLY worth it.


29 posted on 04/02/2012 11:58:44 AM PDT by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: Cboldt

” — Based upon what ? —
Facts not in evidence.

I see : )


30 posted on 04/02/2012 12:01:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Cboldt

not correct.

If he was going back to his car and had lost sight then he was attacked he get stand your ground protection.

Apparently there is no video or evidence fo the iced tea and skittles.

It also does not explain Martin hitting a back on the ground zimmerman.


31 posted on 04/02/2012 12:01:41 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RIghtwardHo
I have gone on record (to the consternation of some here) that I believe Zimmerman should be arrested and charged with manslaughter

So, you've seen who's finger print was on the trigger and where the gunshot residue went?

32 posted on 04/02/2012 12:01:49 PM PDT by bgill
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To: onyx

Welcome to the fever swamp onyx!


33 posted on 04/02/2012 12:02:04 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Cboldt
Based upon what?

Facts not in evidence.

Furthermore, because Zimmerman followed Treyvon after being told not to ..........

The above is a fact?

34 posted on 04/02/2012 12:02:36 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: RIghtwardHo

there is no reason for any arrest if martin attacked. This is why stand your ground give immunity from slap prosecutions that existed before the law. Prosecutors would prosecute ALL self defense in order to scare people from their self defense options.


35 posted on 04/02/2012 12:03:45 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: nathanbedford

Perhaps it is because the “victim” looked like the President’s son?


36 posted on 04/02/2012 12:05:41 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: Cboldt
Thanks.

I had brain lock and had forgotten the expansion of the statute as a result of the Matthew Shepard case extending federal jurisdiction to drop the requirement that there be a specified activity involved.

I can't help but see a parallel to the extension of federal authority in Obamacare.

If Obamacare is upheld, there is virtually nothing the feds cannot compel or prohibit.

The same question must now be applied to the feds involvement the criminal law, is there now anything the federal government cannot investigate, police,and prosecute or at least contrive to have a law passed granting itself power to do so, which will not withstand constitutional scrutiny?


37 posted on 04/02/2012 12:07:11 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Why should Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter?


38 posted on 04/02/2012 12:07:18 PM PDT by Third Person (Why should Zimmerman be charged)
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To: No Socialist

Combine Hussein’s hankering for a son with the Black Panthers’ bounty and Bubba Clinton coming out to say the “stand your ground” laws need to be rethought along with the FBI now being ordered (by whom?) to investigate. Smells to me like this is the very incident that Hussein was looking for as an excuse to make good on his new expanded executive powers.


39 posted on 04/02/2012 12:11:03 PM PDT by bgill
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To: nathanbedford

“It’s all George W. Bush’s fault.”


40 posted on 04/02/2012 12:16:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: FunkyZero

There were two (2) witnesses that saw Zimmerman on the bottom and calling for help...one was John (interviewed on local TV), the other was Austin Brown, the 13 year old black boy, who was interviewed by ABC (not sure if local or national).


41 posted on 04/02/2012 12:29:58 PM PDT by Seeking the truth
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To: maggief

Holders Hate Crfime Squad. Their motto? Hate is a one way street!


42 posted on 04/02/2012 12:35:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: RIghtwardHo
As a former Prosecutor, I have gone on record (to the consternation of some here) that I believe Zimmerman should be arrested and charged with manslaughter

Forgetting this case since the evidence isn't all in for us spectators, as a general rule how many times do I have to have my head bashed against the concrete before manslaughter transforms to self defense?

43 posted on 04/02/2012 12:41:01 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: maggief

here we go! the feds are just looking for one racial slur or joke and that will be used as evidence for arrest on suspicion of a hate crime. I’m thinking ‘stand my ground’ will more likely apply to the FBI themselves than to some flash mob in the future.


44 posted on 04/02/2012 12:45:16 PM PDT by kreitzer
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To: Cboldt
I think this bodes well for Zimmerman, actually. What friend, acquaintance, or stranger will give testimony (under risk of false statements at least, and perjury if under oath) that is evidence of racial animus on George Zimmerman's part?

Who wants to get audited by the IRS or have the Feds look into every aspect of your own personal or professional life?

45 posted on 04/02/2012 12:47:19 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: trappedincanuckistan

I live in Mississippi.


46 posted on 04/02/2012 1:18:35 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I’m not a lawyer, but I agree with you.


47 posted on 04/02/2012 1:21:54 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Please list the elements of manslaughter and how Z’s actions apply to each element.

Thank you.


48 posted on 04/02/2012 1:24:00 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: jwalsh07

LOL. . .excellent question.


49 posted on 04/02/2012 1:28:20 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: onyx

What NBC did was tantamount to screaming “fire” in a theater
actually, since it went national, potentially far far worse. The FBI is looking for something to hang on Zimmerman
now. What are the odds they go after NBC ?


50 posted on 04/02/2012 1:28:33 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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