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George Zimmerman Video Shows Little Evidence of Broken Nose, Doctor Says
ABC ^ | April 3, 2012 | Matt Gutman

Posted on 04/03/2012 5:33:22 AM PDT by ironman

...shows little evidence of a broken nose, the president of the Florida College of Emergency Physicians said today.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; flatnose; georgezimmerman; hispanicnose; lynching; mediamalpractice; obama2012; obamariots; romannose; trayvon; trayvonmartin; vidorfriedman; zimmerman
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Matt Gutman is stuck on stupid.
1 posted on 04/03/2012 5:33:24 AM PDT by ironman
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To: ironman

ABCNNBCBS = GGTV = Gangster Govt TV = American Pravda.


2 posted on 04/03/2012 5:34:53 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ironman

Unbelievable.


3 posted on 04/03/2012 5:35:20 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: ironman

He can determine that on a crappy CCTV video? Give me a break. And take away his license.


4 posted on 04/03/2012 5:35:34 AM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: ironman

If ABC cared about their reputation they would yank him off this story and reprimand him, or fire him.


5 posted on 04/03/2012 5:37:51 AM PDT by ironman
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To: ironman
Dr. Vidor Friedman, president of the Florida College of Emergency Physicians

Does Dr. Friedman honestly think that he can diagnose injuries from low quality surveillance videos.

6 posted on 04/03/2012 5:40:28 AM PDT by iowamark (The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves)
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To: ironman

Hell, if a grainy video is all we need for diagnoses, why are we spending all this money on MRIs and PET scans?


7 posted on 04/03/2012 5:42:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: ironman

Wow. What a load of crap. The dr from FACEP is a tool. He just wanted FaceTime. I’m sure he is just a bureaucrat hoping to parlay this into a nice gig in the new regime.


8 posted on 04/03/2012 5:43:11 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: iowamark

There was an article in the WSJ today about the media acting like police investigators on this case. Media sources are getting in “experts” who have never seen any of the people, the places, or the evidence in the case, and yet they are coming out with official-sounding pronouncements, all aimed at “convicting” Zimmerman.

The WSJ pointed out that it is going to be very hard for him to get a fair hearing now.


9 posted on 04/03/2012 5:46:40 AM PDT by livius
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To: ironman

Does it really matter? I don’t think its on any official statement from Zimmerman himself. It was said by his father once *maybe* and now the press is running with it trying to say Zimmerman is lying about the incident.


10 posted on 04/03/2012 5:47:01 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: ironman

So he can diagnose from a grainy, ceiling level video?

He must be Wonder Doctor.


11 posted on 04/03/2012 5:48:14 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: ironman

Welcome to obamacare....


12 posted on 04/03/2012 5:48:25 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: ironman


13 posted on 04/03/2012 5:54:28 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: livius

WSJ is 100 percent correct. ABC needs to just take a few seats and stop trying to make news with this case.


14 posted on 04/03/2012 5:57:24 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: ironman

I know of no reputable physician who will make a diagnosis based on a photo or a grainy video. Of course, I am sure there are those who will make said diagnosis for the right price.


15 posted on 04/03/2012 5:59:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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We should wait until ABC releases the enhanced Doctor’s view...


16 posted on 04/03/2012 6:01:41 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: ironman

Had trouble viewing it all at the link

“George Zimmerman Video Shows Little Evidence of a Broken Nose, Doctor Claims”

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-case-doctor-sees-evidence-george-zimmerman/story?id=16055412#.T3ryyuJGhzC

The doctor’s name is:

Dr. Vidor Friedman

See:

“Doctors fight NRA, while guns on campus bill stalls”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state/doctors-fight-nra-while-guns-on-campus-bill-1273940.html

Dr. Friedman is mentioned here. Bet it is a sure thing he is a Dem.


17 posted on 04/03/2012 6:02:03 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ironman

Doesn’t give much a darn about his reputation or the reputation of his organization, does he? He seems to have chosen a network that has given up any pretense of respectability. They’re a matched pair.


18 posted on 04/03/2012 6:03:11 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: ironman

Any Dr. who would make a diagnosis from a video tape without seeing the patient should have his license revoked!


19 posted on 04/03/2012 6:03:49 AM PDT by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: ironman
Oddly, Dr. Friedman causes this recent story to spring immediately to mind:

Prostitute Offered .. Sex For Cheeseburgers ..

20 posted on 04/03/2012 6:06:05 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: ironman

ABC sure is working hard to convict Zimmerman.

Whenever I need a diagnosis, I send my doctor a video.


21 posted on 04/03/2012 6:06:27 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: Dick Vomer

The doctor is getting air time by being on ABC News. ABC put him on because they knew he would give them the story they want.


22 posted on 04/03/2012 6:07:56 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: ironman

Anyone could be ABC’s next victim.


23 posted on 04/03/2012 6:08:41 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: ironman

Let’s be patient. Sooner or later we’ll see photos taken one foot from his nose and back of head, and we’ll hear what the doctor treating Zimmerman found.


24 posted on 04/03/2012 6:09:46 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: ironman

Friedman is a charlatan if he is saying he can tell if a nose is broken by looking at photos of the back of the head-—or for that matter a grainy photo of a face.


25 posted on 04/03/2012 6:13:19 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: ironman

Did or did not Zimmerman visit the ER the next day? That visit and diagnosis if it occurred will be more important than some diagnosis/speculation via a video feed.


26 posted on 04/03/2012 6:14:40 AM PDT by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: pgkdan

That assumes that this “doctor” has a degree and has a license to practice. We do know that his sense of professional ethics is severely wanting. Time for some further continuing education “doctor”?


27 posted on 04/03/2012 6:20:12 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ironman

He has a flat style nose. It is harder to see from a video if that type of nose is broken, then say a Roman Nose.


28 posted on 04/03/2012 6:22:03 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: ironman

Nuts, I wish I would have known about this doctor yesterday morning. I went to a dentist who, after taking x-rays and performing a hands-on examination declared that I needed a root canal.

Had I known about Friedman, I just could have sent him a cell phone video, he could have diagnosed it from afar as a a piece of broccoli (or whatever) stuck between my molars — and I could have saved a ton of money.

I’ll never make that mistake again!


29 posted on 04/03/2012 6:25:33 AM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: Steely Tom

so now doctors can make a diagnosis from the tv?....this guy should be fired, and his license rescinded for conduct unbecoming a supposed dr....


30 posted on 04/03/2012 6:26:21 AM PDT by cherry
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To: ironman

Wow - a Doc that can make a diagnosis from crappy video... what a guy....


31 posted on 04/03/2012 6:26:40 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: ironman

ABC’s giving us the figurative middle finger after getting busted for covering up the head cuts photos.


32 posted on 04/03/2012 6:27:10 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: ironman
Okay,so why can't this doctor look at Obama’s “birth certificate" and know THAT is a phony?
33 posted on 04/03/2012 6:29:25 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: D-fendr

“We should wait until ABC releases the enhanced Doctor’s view...”

LOL!


34 posted on 04/03/2012 6:33:16 AM PDT by ironman
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To: ironman

I’m sure he has x-rays and an ER report that will say if the nose was broken.


35 posted on 04/03/2012 6:33:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: freeangel

Well, If Zimmerman’s nose was hit hard enough, wouldn’t the image of his nose protrude out the back of his head?

Enhance the pixels some more!!


36 posted on 04/03/2012 6:38:41 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (If you could read my mind ... just count up the felonies!)
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To: ironman

I don’t know about whether his nose was broken, but according to the police report http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf Zimmerman was bleeding from his nose and the back of his head.

this report is all the corroboration he needs.


37 posted on 04/03/2012 6:40:00 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (if it weren't for double standards the left wouldn't have any standards at all)
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To: ironman
Uh, now that the doctor has compromised his professionalism, no doubt for money, he needs to explain what he was paid for this, & what is his political persuasion.

Otherwise, he has as much credibility as the guy on TV in the lab coat, stethoscope, & name-tag trying to sell me penis enlargement products.

38 posted on 04/03/2012 6:43:00 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Texas Fossil

I read the story on my ABCNews iPad app then opened in the safari browser to cut and paste. My original link does not seem to work fully using IE???

I posted the article because the author Matt Gutman seems hell bent on convicting Zimmerman in the court of public opinion. He’s trying to make a name for himself, but we are busting him. FR is great at doing that.


39 posted on 04/03/2012 6:43:50 AM PDT by ironman
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To: ironman

I wonder how many doctors they asked, who said, “.... you can’t tell whether a nose is broken from the outside....” before they found this one, who would go on recorda as saying there was “little evidence”. Possibly dozens.


40 posted on 04/03/2012 6:47:42 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: ironman; mickie; flaglady47
Folks, what we're seeing is right from the Saul Alinsky handbook. Isolate, attack and destroy.

For instance, "isolate" the injuries to the back of Z's head. "Attack" the fact that they're even there. Then" destroy" his affirmation of injury over the air waves.

Then isolate the screams, attack his affirmation it was he that was screaming, then get audio "experts" to attest it was not Z crying out for help.

Then go for the broken nose....get some medical hack to state it didn't look broken on TV, hoping to destroy the claim.

Then isolate blood or no blood on the shirt, rain or no rain, white skin or brown skin....isolate everything, attack it, nuance it, spin it, destroy the premise.

Watch for everything leading up to the shooting and afterwards being dissected, parsed, analyzed, torn apart, one by one. Watch for all kinds of "experts" being trotted out. You're seeing all this now, almost hourly, is this not so?

This is a carefully plotted Alinsky-assault against Mr. Zimmerman, nothing is being left to chance. The liberal fascists in the racist movement and their allies in the controlled media cannot afford to lose this one. They're too heavily invested in seeing Zimmerman hang by the neck till dead. They will not relent their assault even in the face of hard evidence against their agenda.....or even if riots and arson erupt in their own backyards.

Leni

41 posted on 04/03/2012 6:53:07 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: ironman

The media must have sifted through as many doctors to find this one as they did to find a voice “expert” to say that the voice calling for help was not Zimmerman.


42 posted on 04/03/2012 6:53:43 AM PDT by JayAr36 (Old enough to remember when this was a Free Country)
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To: ironman

Was he there?


43 posted on 04/03/2012 6:56:07 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: ironman

Matt Gutman is stuck on stupid.

Doubled down on stupid he’s all in (the bag)

Wonderful this Doc sounds like he has xray vision and can see a break with his naked eyes since he did not touch or inspect the inside of the nose (or the outside other than a fuzzy video)Bleeding is one sign of a possible broken nose.

google broken nose diagnosis


44 posted on 04/03/2012 7:03:38 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: ironman

Find the contact information for ABC. They need a few emails etc. This guy has a “problem”


45 posted on 04/03/2012 7:06:40 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: ironman

I actually wondered about this when I first saw the pictures. I boxed competitively for years and have seen and suffered many broken noses. In my experience they bleed like a faucet and get very red and swollen within minutes. I would have expected to see his shirt drenched in blood and a very red, swollen nose. But I’m no doctor and there may very well be types of hairline nose fractures that don’t display these characteristics.


46 posted on 04/03/2012 7:19:10 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: deport
-- Did or did not Zimmerman visit the ER the next day? --

Not ER, but yes, a medical facility. Decision to not stitch the head wound(s) because they were already healing, and to stitch would require cutting them open again.

The police evidence folder includes the report or reports from the tending physicians. ABC, and Gutman in particular, is just making noise like a baby does when it wants attention.

47 posted on 04/03/2012 7:26:34 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ironman
The doctor is on the Board of Directors of the AMA?
48 posted on 04/03/2012 7:27:46 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: ironman

ABC & Matt Gutman are doubling down. Betting they can diffuse this before they get sued by Zimmerman over their lies.

They deserve a lawsuit.

Dr. Friedman is a Dem OP Political Hack.

See:
http://t.co/XiqCjeNz


49 posted on 04/03/2012 7:28:00 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: circlecity

Kobe Bryant suffered a broken nose in the NBA all star game. Very little (if any) blood. No deformity of the nose. The only clue was is expression of pain at the time of injury and the next few games he wore a protective mask.


50 posted on 04/03/2012 7:28:56 AM PDT by Bullpine
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