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I'm getting a bad feeling about all of this.

Posted on 04/03/2012 1:44:05 PM PDT by servo1969

If there's one thing that Obama is a master at it's lying.

With that in mind I'm starting to feel really apprehensive about the SCOTUS vote on Obamacare.

I hate to say it but what if he's won?
What if he's managed to flip one of the judges (or didn't even have to)?
What if he's been informed by Kagan or Sotomayor that it's in the bag?
What if all these little statements to the press are just him loading the bases for a grand slam in June? So he can look Large and In Charge to all his minions?

I hate to be defeatist but I'm getting a sinking feeling in my stomach.

Jeez. If I have any grandkids they're gonna have to celebrate this c*cks*ckers birthday in school.


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1 posted on 04/03/2012 1:44:16 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Any outcome is possible. Witness the decision to allow strip searching for a littering arrest.


2 posted on 04/03/2012 1:50:07 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: servo1969

5 to 4 the whole bill is tossed....not part...ALL of it. Kagan blabbed to Obama, and Obama panicked...He has since retracted, due to heavy criticism.


3 posted on 04/03/2012 1:50:29 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: servo1969

In that case, his grandstanding might cause a justice or two to change their minds and vote against it.


4 posted on 04/03/2012 1:52:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
5 to 4 the whole bill is tossed....not part...ALL of it.

I Agree
5 posted on 04/03/2012 1:53:44 PM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: servo1969

government employees to rule whether or not a ‘law’ passed by other government employees giving the government massive power and money should be allowed

hmmm... this is a tough one.

on the one hand you have the 236 year old dusty and tattered Constitution

on the other, you have increased yearly salaries, unsurpassed private healthcare for govt workers, lifetime pension plans, and unchecked governmental power

yea, this will be close

/sarc


6 posted on 04/03/2012 1:53:44 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: servo1969

When Obama did his little rant against the USSC yesterday, he sounded somewhat subdued, maybe even depressed.

I can’t be certain but, after hearing him, my thought was that Kagan called him and told him he lost.


7 posted on 04/03/2012 1:54:11 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: servo1969
"I've got a bad feeling about this"


8 posted on 04/03/2012 1:54:30 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: servo1969

My opinion is the mandates will go, but the rest of the law will stay. No reason or inside knowledge on my part, but I just think that’s the best scenario we can hope for. And if by some miracle Romney should become president, don’t look for a repeal.


9 posted on 04/03/2012 1:54:41 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Nailed it. Remember those Blackberries the Admin has? Well i’d bet dollars to donuts Kagan sent a Blackberry Messenger message that it was toast, so he went into panic mode.


10 posted on 04/03/2012 1:54:50 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“In that case, his grandstanding might cause a justice or two to change their minds and vote against it.”

If that’s the case, we just crowned King Obama.


11 posted on 04/03/2012 1:55:41 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: fatnotlazy

Agree. Scotus will split the baby.


12 posted on 04/03/2012 1:57:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: servo1969

Kagan worked for Obama before anointed justice. I would not put it past Kagan to leak news to her master.

However, if the November elections go against Obama, then it is bad news for Obamacare anyways.


13 posted on 04/03/2012 1:59:11 PM PDT by entropy12 (Every tax payer now owes $150,000 towards the national debt. Greek tragedy on the way here.)
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To: Huskrrrr

The law is toast.


14 posted on 04/03/2012 2:00:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
5 to 4 the whole bill is tossed....not part...ALL of it. Kagan blabbed to Obama, and Obama panicked...He has since retracted, due to heavy criticism.

5 - 4 or 6 - 3? The questioning by the "Wise Latina" was almost as if she was one of us. Has she been listening to her Cardinals in Church and did it make an impression? Kagan? Ya I can see her sending a message. Yes he panicked, they just upped the meds. Although today was a Castro like Stem Winder on TV at the Diner. I read some of the propoganda, on the kyron and continued to eat my soup, he is loosing it...

15 posted on 04/03/2012 2:02:07 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: servo1969
I am cautiously optimistic that the law will be overturned.

Obama, for his part, chooses to display his habit of demonizing opponents, real or imaginary, (in this case, the Supremes) and his apparent internal need to blame.

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16 posted on 04/03/2012 2:03:04 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: fatnotlazy
My opinion is the mandates will go, but the rest of the law will stay.

Can't...Then that is truly Judical Activism, by them esentially writing law as Scalia noted we didn't want to read it because it was out of their Constitutional relm

17 posted on 04/03/2012 2:04:25 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger

I’m guessing on the 6-3,
and it’s 100% that he already knows how they voted.


18 posted on 04/03/2012 2:04:45 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: fatnotlazy
"My opinion is the mandates will go, but the rest of the law will stay."

That is the worst possible senenrio. Because then you have the whole law in place with no funding mechanism. This would cost trillions more in taxes or deficit spending.
19 posted on 04/03/2012 2:05:08 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: servo1969

Same feeling I had when the bill was passed in the first place; that we will never be rid of this mess they have created. If you understand that their motive has nothing to do with health care, but rather control of 1/6 of the us economic activity and diverting premiums paid to insurance co’s into fedzilla’s revenue stream in perpertuity, then it becomes quite clear they will stop at nothing, including making scotus irrelevent, to reach their ends. Docs will start fleeing and the quality of care in the US will be no better than in Russia. I knew we were doomed since Nov 4, 2008, the night me and my wife shed tears for America. Not much has changed for my family, yet. But I am well aware that “change”, the transformation of America, is well under way, and will exact it’s toll on us and my kid’s once bright future in fairly short order. I will go vote for ABO, but 2008 surely proves there is not enough of us who care enough. The socialist transformation has taken root.


20 posted on 04/03/2012 2:07:12 PM PDT by ri4dc (Cut your cable, Break Wind for the TSA, Flush Twice in 2012, Yes, a Newt really can command an army.)
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To: GSWarrior

If that should come about the States can succeed from the union and see what happens then


21 posted on 04/03/2012 2:08:18 PM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: servo1969

I share your apprehension over Obama. The kristallnacht event of the 1930s comes to mind.


22 posted on 04/03/2012 2:10:02 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

I agree. He showed his cards when he cried “judicial activism.”


23 posted on 04/03/2012 2:10:25 PM PDT by JoeRed
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To: taildragger

he is loosing it...


I’ve said for a couple years that I do not believe he will finish his term. I feel more strongly than ever that that is true. I also think the cause may be a meltdown.

In fact, if the law completely survives, there may be a worse meltdown, as in, exposes who he really is in his glee and says something even more stooooopid than that open mic gaffe about “flexibility”.


24 posted on 04/03/2012 2:10:29 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Huskrrrr
Have heard of reverse psychology, but you really need to explain that one. Don't think you said what you meant.
25 posted on 04/03/2012 2:12:00 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
In that case, his grandstanding might cause a justice or two to change their minds and vote against it.

That's what I thought in the beginning.

0b0z0 would have been told to keep quite precisely because Kennedy could change his mind and rule in his favor.

It seems to me that 0b0z0 is really angry and being a child, he can't hide it. The only thing that will show this unrestrained anger is that HE LOST BIG AND CAN'T RAIL AGAINST 5 TO 4 AS HE WANTED IF HE HAD TO LOSE.

It could at least be 6 to 3, which makes 0b0z0 look pretty bad and worse if it's above that.

26 posted on 04/03/2012 2:12:10 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: servo1969
The only possible way Romney can win in November if he's the nominee is for the USSC to uphold all or even part of Obamacare.

If nothing of Obamacare remains, people will figure they can take the Senate and keep control of the House so, screw Romney. They'll figure a Republican House and Senate can reign King Barry in and roll things back. The problem is, unless it's two thirds control, it's still a holding action until there are enough votes to override a veto. Of course, if Romney starts talking about "fixing" Obamacare rather than eliminating it, then Barry will be good to go for another four years anyway. He'll also be on track to impeachment for one or more things he does by executive order, but to Barry, that's the best possible outcome short of the super-majorities he had for the first two years.

If the USCC retains even part of Obamacare, Barry is toast in November. It'll be the Carter hostage crisis with the entire population as the hostages and everyone, even the dimwit dolts who sway in the breeze, will know it.

JMHO

27 posted on 04/03/2012 2:12:15 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: servo1969

Every Bar Association, Judiciary Committee, and any other group in the justice system should be calling for Kagan to recuse herself.


28 posted on 04/03/2012 2:12:33 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Sopater

From your keyboard to Gods ear :)


29 posted on 04/03/2012 2:14:44 PM PDT by HangingTuff
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; little jeremiah; LucyT; azishot
Reformat and repost.

In that case, his grandstanding might cause a justice or two to change their minds and vote against it.

That's what I thought in the beginning.

0b0z0 would have been told to keep quite precisely because Kennedy could change his mind and rule in his favor.

It seems to me that 0b0z0 is really angry and being a child, he can't hide it. The only thing that will show this unrestrained anger is that IF HE HAD TO LOSE, HE CAN'T RAIL AGAINST a loss of 5 TO 4 AS HE WANTED.

It could at least be 6 to 3, which makes 0b0z0 look pretty bad and worse if it's above that.

30 posted on 04/03/2012 2:16:51 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I'm in your camp.

Obama has succeeded in not only dividing the people in this Country, now he has divided the three branches of Government.

Nothing but a two bit dictator thug.

31 posted on 04/03/2012 2:17:21 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: melancholy

quite -——> quiet

Geez, take a break!


32 posted on 04/03/2012 2:19:29 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: X-spurt

I guess what I meant was that if all Obama needs to do is criticize the SCOTUS, resulting in a reversal of their decision, then he is all-powerful. He then controls the executive and judicial branches of government.


33 posted on 04/03/2012 2:21:30 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: melancholy

Ginzberg, Sotomayor, Breyer and Kagan would never vote against it.


34 posted on 04/03/2012 2:21:47 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

YEP


35 posted on 04/03/2012 2:22:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: servo1969

“I HATE to say it but what if he’s won? . . . . I HATE to be defeatist but I’m getting a sinking feeling in my stomach.”

If you really HATE these things, why are you posting this vanity?

Do you think this is helping in any way?

Optimism is probably the most essential of all American attributes. It is the essence of America. Real conservative Americans should be optimists.

Pessimism, cynicism and negativity are European and the essence of Liberalism. We can be realistic without being pessimistic. Leave the pessimism for the likes of Obama.


36 posted on 04/03/2012 2:22:25 PM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: servo1969
Appeals court fires back at Obama's comments on health care case
37 posted on 04/03/2012 2:22:58 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: taildragger

I figure 5/4 ALL 2700 pages of bull$hit in the trash.

And yes, the little fag panicked : )


38 posted on 04/03/2012 2:24:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: entropy12
However, if the November elections go against Obama, then it is bad news for Obamacare anyways.

It will be bad news for Kagan as well, who will be in danger of impeachment.

39 posted on 04/03/2012 2:25:04 PM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: JoSixChip

Whatever happens this will cost us all a bundle


40 posted on 04/03/2012 2:27:29 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: melancholy

Hope it is 6/3....be funny if the “wise latina” joined : )


41 posted on 04/03/2012 2:28:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: servo1969
Don't get


42 posted on 04/03/2012 2:28:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: fatnotlazy

” My opinion is the mandates will go, but the rest of the law will stay.”

Nah.....SCOTUS knows Obama is a psycho, and will ignore the law. Any other POTUS but Obama, maybe.....not Obama.


43 posted on 04/03/2012 2:31:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

There’s been a lot of speculation that Kagan got word to BHO that his case didn’t fare well in the informal vote of Justices. OR, it could be that a grown up, experienced attorney, instead of the usual arse-kissing toadies he surrounds himself with, got word to him about how it appears in the real world.


44 posted on 04/03/2012 2:32:50 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: servo1969
Jeez. If I have any grandkids they're gonna have to celebrate this c*cks*ckers birthday in school.

Now that's a bumper sticker.

45 posted on 04/03/2012 2:34:53 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Las Vegas Ron

1) The bill is unconstitutional

2) SCOTUS knows the mandate will not stop Obama

3) Hundreds of “preferred companies & organizations” have been exempted. SCOTUS sees that too.

4) The after-the-fact-attacks on the Catholic/evangelical churches won’t escape SCOTUS either.(Lawlessness)

5) Worst power grab in history...with pathetic oral arguments in it’s favor

6) And the # 1 reason izzzzzzzzzzz they don’t want to read the f’n thing : )


46 posted on 04/03/2012 2:38:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

he has retracted, but you are seeing increasing signs that he is melting down and becoming mentally unhinged


47 posted on 04/03/2012 2:38:24 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EDINVA

” There’s been a lot of speculation that Kagan got word to BHO that his case didn’t fare well in the informal vote of Justices. “

I vote A.....Kagan is a gangster leftist. She told him, he panicked.


48 posted on 04/03/2012 2:40:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: servo1969

I have often wondered when the “tipping point” was. We accelerated our decline in the ‘60’s, culturally, at least. The moment the schools and the media were controlled by the left the end of liberty was a given. It is fun to win a battle every now and then but we lost the war long ago. I spent a while being very depressed after this realization 11 years ago. I then passed through the all the stages of loss and am now, once again, a happy camper. I’ll enjoy the rest of my life as best I can with no allusions that we will ever regain the America we grew up in. It is a good time to be old. Today’s youth can never appreciate that which they have never experienced.


49 posted on 04/03/2012 2:41:10 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: servo1969

I’ve got 6-3 that obumacare is thrown out. The whole enchilada.

The rats will cry enough tears to fill the Hoover dam.


50 posted on 04/03/2012 2:42:46 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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