Skip to comments.Larry O'Donnell Again Attacks Romney's Religion
Posted on 04/03/2012 8:26:04 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
Larry O'Donnell makes a living attacking Mormonism. We noted years ago how he lambasted the LDS church as "demented" and "ridiculous." The MSNBC host was back at it again tonight.
On this evening's Last Word, O'Donnell dismissed Mormonism as a religion "invented" by its founder, Joseph Smith, for purposes of excusing his infidelity. A sneering O'Donnell added that Mitt Romney "says his believes" in his religion.
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I didn't think so.
16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.
17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.
18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.
19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto themYe shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depthsthen shall it be written in the Lambs gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.
20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.
21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.
22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.
23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.
I kinda figgered that out...
And yet; you are upset because others DO 'give a crap'.
I don't know: has any of the LDS SCRIPTUREs changed??
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.
The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.
This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."
Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.
Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.
2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'
August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:
(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)
1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,
"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."
We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.
According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.
Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:
"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).
When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:
"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."
When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)
Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.
I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.
At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parentson the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.
One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.
(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)
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You are MUCH more likely to find THIS GUY on a MORMON revelation thread:
Professor Robert Millet teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004 http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/ <-- Complete and uneditted
Timeline... Subject...0:59 "Anti-Mormons..."1:16 "ATTACK the faith you have..."2:02 "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."3:57 "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."
JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?
JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?
JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?
JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!
JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.
JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!
JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.
JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.
JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?
JOSEPH SMITH: This? At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven (Matthew 22:30)
JESUS: That's it.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: Nah - it was right.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.
JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.
JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!
JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?
JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....
JESUS: What did you say?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.
JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.
JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?
JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!
JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: No; it wasn't.
JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?
JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?
JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.
JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.
JOSEPH SMITH: But....
Please...if you want...we can trot out all of the unniceties that Lds general authorities have labeled the Christian faith for over 180 years.
The whore of Babylon; church of the devil; and the like.
Joseph Smith labeled all Christian churches as 100% AWOL..."apostates"...100% corrupt professors...100% abominable creeds.
The Mormons of the 1870s then put Smith's "first vision" -- which mentions most of this -- and enshrined it as Mormon "scripture." [Iow...not just an "editorial" written by Smith]
What this means is that Joseph Smith tried to dig the biggest spiritual graveyard ever -- and bury worldwide Christianity in it. That's called scorched-earth religio-politics.
If you are just now waking up to the reality that Mormonism has been attacking Christianity for over 180 years, it's about time your alarm clock went off.
Mitt Romney, and all temple-going true believing Mormons, say that Mormon doctrine is that they will become "gods"...growing up from a present condition of being "gods in embryo."
Wolfstar, although some animistic pagan religions talk about local gods being the "god of fertility" or the "god of the hills" or the "god of the rivers," in a Judeo-Christian culture you'd have to tear apart dictionaries to try to reduce "God" to a purely "religious" oversight only.
IoW...God is sovereign over political, economical and other spheres...Mormon doctrine is that Romney will be a "lord" of his own world...that means political rule -- not just religious.
So, Romneybots are ones who would vote for a supposed future lord of a world...IF...they want to take what he believes at face value, that is.
And, if they don't want to do that, why would they--you-- vote for a guy so easily deceived...so gullible...??? Why would they--you--endorse the character of a guy so prideful and arrogant that he thinks he can be a god of his own world???
There was plenty of religious stuff dished out upon Obama in '08 re: his ties to Rev. Jeremiah wright...and the reality that Obama at that time belonged to a denomination that began ordaining homosexuals in 1967...before even the homosexual lobby was demanding such...
Since that time, it seems Obama is free-lancing...it seems he's not even really trying to be linked to a Christian church or denomination...
IoW, he's no longer counterfeiting himself as "Christian."
Romney, on the other hand, does counterfeit himself as "Christian."
If you're a retailer, are you going to be concerned about foreign bills coming into circulation...or counterfeits???
Now that does that get you up to speed on one of the key concerns here????
O'Donnell claimed Joseph Smith made up Mormonism to cover up an affair with his teen maid. Not so.
Smith had already published the Book of Mormon in 1830...and it actually outright condemns polygamy...If Smith had been wanting to use it as a cover-up, he would have excluded these condemnations...or wrote the opposite.
Mormons concede the affair with the maid began in 1831.
Now, it is true that Smith eventually used his religion and so-called "revelations" to approve of polygamy...but that wasn't til 1843. Up until then, he had been able to hide enough of his immoral shenanigans from his wife, the world...and even locally...but by 1843, his wife was having no more of it...and was threatening Joseph with what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Even the 1843 "revelation" wasn't widely circulated -- or at least, wasn't publicly circulated -- until 1852...8 years after Smith's death...by then, the Lds got up and went off to Utah.
The defense of mormonISM when one knows nothing of mormonISM is really boring.
“I’m not going to vote for a religious leader in November. I’m going to vote for president.”
A person’s morality, their goodness, their virtue comes from
God and if you follow some crazy sect who reject the basics
of Christianity, how is God going to guide them and bless
You have to vote no to Obama and Romney.
Is it true, the Mormon belief, Romney will be given some
special prize? I’ve read it’s his own planet but that’s
Maybe, it’s something else....
mormonISM teaches that men get their own planets so they to can be a god.
That is of course they follow all the rules in this earth, which he does.
And he gets many wives so they can be eternally pregnant and the man can have more people to rule over.
Romney is as high as one can be within mormonISM, without being one of the chosen “12”.
My lds family is supporting him 100%, because they beleive he is the fulfillment of an lds prophecy about a white horse and the constitution hanging by a thread and this man in the prophecy will be the only one to restore the USA, because only a “saint” can accomplish this.
If you follow Romney back through his life, the information is pretty easy to find which elevates him to superman status.
Look up the accident in France and how the story changed from the original or the young girl he helped find and how that changed. When you read the original stories and now read how SLC lds tells the stories it is actually a bit scary.
I knew that? Hum must have not made note of it.
They are your anti mormon threads too, you show up as much as I sometimes...
Wierd that since you have no dog in the hunt...
Thank you for explaining and you would really know coming
out of Mormonism. God bless you. Pray for the conversion
of your family, I am sure you do. I am in the same position,
Catholic wise. Most of my family are liberal and fallen
Wow! The Mormon belief:
“And he gets many wives so they can be eternally pregnant and the man can have more people to rule over.”
It sounds like Islam, LDS has the same founder, Lucifer.
I’ll look up the “France” story.
Belated welcome to F.R., hope to read many more of your replies.
“Belated welcome to F.R., hope to read many more of your replies.”
Thank you, you don’t know how dear your welcome is to me.
Coming from a pro-Romney site (I didn’t realize, I thought
it was a discussion about all the candidates with their many polls posted), I got beat up.
I dare him to say: “[Christianity] was created by a [gal] in [Israel] when [she] got caught [being pregnant] and explained to [her financee] that God [was the father]. Forty-eight [years] later, [the “Virgin” Mary’s lifestyle was completely sanctified in the religion [she and her love-child Jesus] invented to go with it. Which [fill-in-the-blank] says he believes.”
Believers - don’t flame me here. I’m just using this to illustrate O’Donnell’s cowardice in focusing his bigotry on a relatively unpopular religion, and to show he could have used the same rhetoric to ridicule any other religion.
On TV Sunday a panel discussion of faith with Ann Graham Lott, a priest , a minister and a Mormon congressman turned into a discussion of Romneys Mormonism ,that was just the beginning
Not me. I’ll vote for Romney in a hot minute. And the Mormons I know are great people. I won’t try to change your mind and you won’t be able to change mine. I’m jus’ sayin.