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Scarborough: 'No One' In GOP Establishment Thinks Romney Will Beat Obama
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 04/04/2012 5:37:08 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Unemployment stubbornly over 8%. His landmark piece of legislation in dire peril of being dumped by the Supreme Court. The "flexibility" moment with Putin's pawn. Does that sound like an invincible incumbent to you?

It does to Joe Scarborough, and according to him, to every other member of the Republican establishment. On Morning Joe today, Scarborough said that while they won't admit it on TV, "no one" in the GOP establishment believes Mitt Romney will beat Barack Obama in the general election. View the video here.

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KEYWORDS: barackobama; gop; joescarborough; mittromney; superdelegates
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Ugghh. Why even log in here anymore? That’s just crazy talk. Don’t include me, in your “our incentive” statement.


51 posted on 04/04/2012 6:37:43 AM PDT by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: Ballygrl

“This stooge basically gets paid by leftist MSNBC to make Republicans look bad.”

You are correct!

All the freepers who are falling for this ... don’t.
Romney is at least a 50/50 shot at beating Obama.
The DNC/Obama team want to drag our the primary and so will attack Romney. They are doing all they can to weaken Romney.

The only chance Obama has is revving up his base and depressing ours ... So, expect a lot of “MOBY” operations (look it up) to tell us how awful Romney is, how he cant win, etc. etc. anti-Romney freepers who feed this narrative, just be careful you dont unwittingly do the Obama team bidding.

Sad to say, it’s over for Santorum. Look at the delegate count and the primaries coming up. He’s at the point where he is nearly mathematically impossible to win. Newt’s at that point and now is gettin single digits to low teens in the vote - him going to Tampa is about as meaningful as Ron Paul doing that. none can get the delegates to defeat Romney. That leaves brokered convention as the last not-Romney option ... but do we want to pick our nominee and give them only 60 days? The GOP elites dont, which is why they are coming around Romney now. If Romney wins PA, lights out for Santorum and the nomination is over. Romney wins.

Meanwhile, likely voter polls show Romney v Obama at 45-45. In reality this means Obama is in Big Heap Trouble.


52 posted on 04/04/2012 6:42:56 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Ballygrl

I agree anybody but Obama.

Obama has already made it clear that he plans on moving to the fringe left if he wins, because he wont have to worry about relection in 2016. Considering how far to the left he has been when having a relection to worry about, it’s very scary to think what he will do in 2012-2016 when he has no restraints.

Romney on the other hand has no real convictions. He only cares about getting votes. Romney would govern 2012-2016 like somebody who had a relection to worry about. Which translates into Romney would govern center/right.

Center/right may not be ideal for freepers, but I think it is a whole lot better than the FAR left governance that you will get with Obama.

Thats why it baffles me when people say Romney and Obama are the same. How can you say somebody who wants to take the country to the fringe far left is the same as somebody who is going to take the country center/right ?


53 posted on 04/04/2012 6:43:20 AM PDT by 2012winner
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To: Sudetenland

It’s really quite simple. An adult will always make the best of what he has to work with while a whiner will wail, gnash their teeth and threaten to take their football and go home. The latter is what we are seeing from the anti Romney people.

To be clear, I am NOT a fan of Romney and had I the choice to make myself I would not choose him. However I believe i do see the reality and the seriousness of another Obama term and believe with the support of all registered Republicans whomever the nominee is will be elected.

Those who say Romney is another Obama are either a bit crazed or else they are liberal plants sent here with the purpose of dispiriting the right.

The very first thing which must be done after a serious injury (Obama) is to stop the bleeding. After that is done the healing process begins. But without the first thing happening there is NO CHANCE of the second coming about.


54 posted on 04/04/2012 6:44:29 AM PDT by getgo
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If you go back at least 4 years you will find that Scarborough has completely blown or been way off the mark on every electoral prediction he has made. He’s in the tank for Obama because MSNBC has bought him. He’s also extremely boring which is why I am glad I can switch to Fox Business Channel and watch Degan Mc Dowell put down Don Imus.


55 posted on 04/04/2012 6:44:47 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Nifster
Four days ago.
56 posted on 04/04/2012 6:45:43 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: woweeitsme

“When I hear things like this, I always think the opposite is true.”

Exactly!!

Dont throw us in that briar patch, MSNBC/Team Obama!


57 posted on 04/04/2012 6:48:23 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; AtlasStalled

Joe Scarborough said Bill Crist was “the only professional in the room” in 2010 (in Scarborough’s home state of Florida) and that he would mop the floor with Marco Rubio.

Joe Scarborough said Rand Paul would lose in 2010.

Joe Scarborough predicted that Bob McDonnell would lose in Virginia in 2010 and that in Texas Rick Perry would lose first to Kay B. Hutchinson (wrong) and to Bill White (very wrong).

Joe Scarborough said the Republicans would NOT retake the House of Representatives in 2010, or if they did it would be by a scant few seats (nice hedge but stupidly wrong).

Joe Scarborough cheated on his first wife, destroyed his family, had a dead intern turn up in his Florida congressional office and resigned his seat under cover of darkness, all within a period of months (2001). The intern’s death, by the way, has never been satisfactorily explained (her family was treated like garbage by Scarborough and his people) nor for that matter has his resignation (he had just won re-election and wasn’t in danger of being voted out).

Scarborough watched as his fellow Republicans ran from him like the vile poison he is, personally and professionally, and he has never forgiven them or the party in general for it. That is why he does and says what he does and says.

Joe Scarborough is as bitter and egomanical as his erstwhile colleague Keith Olbermann and he is as willfully obtuse as his present doofus colleague Ed Schultz.

He will no doubt follow the both of them into deserved oblivion.


58 posted on 04/04/2012 6:48:23 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: cripplecreek

Due to the FHA, Fannie and Freddie Bankruptcies of September, 2008, American home owners lost 30 % of the value of their homes. That is a 30 % cut in just one month. Home values are still down 30 %.

Thus, let us cut the total compensation to all elected Federal politicians, and their staffs by 30 %, and an additional 10 % cut to elected Federal politicians each year until Federal Spending is LESS THAN the average of the previous 2 years of Federal income.

BTW, since slightly less than half of the US House, and 2/3 of the US Senate are Millionaires, it will be a great opportunity for Congress to lead by example that EVERYONE should give up their “fair” share of the American Dream.

What better way can there be to demonstrate that America is truly a SUB-PRIME NATION?


59 posted on 04/04/2012 6:49:46 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: OrioleFan

While Joe is blabbing, Mika is on her I Phone conversing with her buddy in the WH Valerie Jarrett.


60 posted on 04/04/2012 6:50:28 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: cripplecreek

cripplecreek, the GOP is literally the only line of defense against Obama, and what Obama will continue to do to this country. I think it is wrong for anyone of us on the right to make such comments about the Republicans. When we accuse the GOP of being afraid of “heavy lifting” or when we admit that the GOP will “blame Obama for all their failures”, we do a great disservice to conservatives in this country. I’m sorry, but your remarks about the GOP sound just like leftist talking points.


61 posted on 04/04/2012 6:50:46 AM PDT by JCS658
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To: dfwgator
Being the opposition party is always easier, all you have to do is bitch and complain and not have any real responsibility, but you still get all of the perks of being in Washington, DC.

What do they care, really? The establishment of both parties are one in the same. They're members of the same country clubs, send their kids to the same private schools, spend their weekends with each other laughing and joking. Their comfortable lifestyles will not be impacted regardless of which party is in power. And should they get voted out of office, they'll have Cadillac pensions on top of guaranteed six-figure consulting jobs in the private sector.

62 posted on 04/04/2012 6:56:21 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
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63 posted on 04/04/2012 6:56:39 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Why don't you ask Helga to get you a beer?" -- Mrs. Andrew Wyeth)
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To: getgo

Im for ABO but Romney is going to lose and I don’t think it’s going to be conservatives that will not vote for him. I think the precious moderates and independents will not be inspired enough with this milquetoast, bland, uncharismatic, no core, wooden and plastic of a candidate we got -— they’ll just stick with the one they already got even if they don’t like him either, that being Obama


64 posted on 04/04/2012 6:59:18 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Theodore R.

What was the real circumstance of Scarborough leaving Congress as he did? Was the truth ever known?


You mean was there a big media inquiry into the dead intern found in his office?


65 posted on 04/04/2012 7:02:00 AM PDT by Yaelle (Let's fight Romney with every primary. Why make it easy for him? Go Rick!)
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To: jersey117
According to last nights exit polls the number one issue is beating obama followed by the economy.

Which is the dumbest "number one issue" imaginable. If that's the most important issue, then why not nominate Hillary Clinton? It just shows the voters are sheeple led by the RINO media, who has been pushing the "Romney is electable" meme for at least 6 months now. They have nothing good to say about him based on his past and present record, so can only point to a mythical future proposition to try to sell him. And every voter who bought it is a brain dead idiot. The only issue that matters is electing someone who will promote conservative policies.

My feeling is most of the better candidates never got in the race because they were afraid they'd be perceived as racist if they had to be publically critical of Obama. I'm sure that whittled down the field some. They're also not as dumb as Romney, who knows nothing about politics, and assumes he can win the race by being a "nice guy." He'll try but he can't and won't do it. Romney's imminent nomination has all but guaranteed us four more years of Obama, unless of course a massive market crash, Katrina-like debacle, or Lewinsky-like scandal happens in October.

66 posted on 04/04/2012 7:04:20 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Why Rick?

Fiscally, He’s one of them.


67 posted on 04/04/2012 7:06:40 AM PDT by moonhawk (Rush, Mark, Sean: Conservative talkers. Sarah, Newt: Conservative DOers. Mitt: Conservative faker)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
They want to lose for some reason

The reason is simple. The GOP-e hates conservatives more than Progressives. CWII is getting closer...

68 posted on 04/04/2012 7:08:01 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mkboyce

That is definitely awesome and shows us once again Palin is a natural, 100% pure conservative with all the right instincts. West seems like the real deal to me, a true “young gun” conservative. Unlike Rubio who seems more like the establishment’s new golden boy. The fact that the establishment is trying to redistrict West out of existence adds more proof to the pudding.


69 posted on 04/04/2012 7:08:40 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: .30Carbine

Levin is clearly still talking about the primary contests which are upcoming. He has even said so on his show. He has also continued to say that he would vote for a can of orange juice if that is the nominee against Obama. Please distinguish between primary season and the November election... there is a world of difference.

I will do everything I can to make sure that the GOP fields a conservative candidate in November.(though there is no true conservative in the bunch)

But come November I will do EVERYTHING I can to ensure that Obama does NOT have a second term


70 posted on 04/04/2012 7:13:13 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If the SCOTUS shoots down Obamacare, this would take a major issue off the table and help Mitt Milquetoast. The MSM was going to go after the hypocrisy angle with MassCare being the prototype for Obamacare.


71 posted on 04/04/2012 7:13:13 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
We will need a strong Congress to keep Romney’s liberal tendencies in check.

Which history says you won't have after 2014. The opposing party to the president usually wins seats in the mid-terms. Romney has proven as governor that he will bend over for a liberal legislature, if not try to "out-liberal" them if he thinks that's where the wind is blowing. This is why we're probably better off with him losing now. Then we can maintain gridlock against Obama, win more seats in 2014, and get a better nominee in 2016. If we get Romney now, chances are Dems will win seats in 2014 and then win back the presidency in 2016, a repeat of 2006 and 2008. Then they'll have the mandate and the majority to pass single payer health care, cap-and-trade and do everything else they want.

72 posted on 04/04/2012 7:15:59 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: Bigtigermike

Im for ABO but Romney is going to lose and I don’t think it’s going to be conservatives that will not vote for him. I think the precious moderates and independents will not be inspired enough with this milquetoast, bland, uncharismatic, no core, wooden and plastic of a candidate we got -— they’ll just stick with the one they already got even if they don’t like him either, that being Obama

And you believe that Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich will inspire moderates and independents ?


73 posted on 04/04/2012 7:18:17 AM PDT by 2012winner
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To: moonhawk

Because he couldn’t be more unlike them.


74 posted on 04/04/2012 7:18:58 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: JediJones

Yuuup!!!

We needn’t a golden boy...we need the real deal.


75 posted on 04/04/2012 7:20:38 AM PDT by mkboyce
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To: Ballygrl
This stooge basically gets paid by leftist MSNBC to make Republicans look bad.

Pretty easy job

76 posted on 04/04/2012 7:22:48 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ontap
What a croc!!! Romney is not who I would have picked but he is certainly capable of beating the Kenyan idiot

There is a treasure trove of negative material for all factions of the liberal media to attack Romney with and he doesn't have the intrinsic likability to rise above the attacks on an emotional level. His weak-to-terrible performance in all his past political runs bears that out. Short of an October news disaster for B.O., Romney is toast. He's unelectable.

77 posted on 04/04/2012 7:23:32 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: 2012winner

No I didn’t say that. I’m not advocating for any of these GOP clowns but it’s clear that Romney is weak and has all of the attributes of all of the recent Presidential losers - flip flopped, wooden, out of touch, uninspiring,....etc. You know that he’s all of that and more and it’s very sad what’s going to most likely happen


78 posted on 04/04/2012 7:24:49 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: .30Carbine

“If Romney wins it will be because Democrats have voted for him. Why would ANY Republican be content with four years of a President and his policies whom DEMOCRATS are happy voting for?!”

Reagan got a lot of Democrats to vote for him. Was that so bad?

Face it, we will need every vote we can get to topple the Obama Regime.


79 posted on 04/04/2012 7:28:26 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Nifster
But come November I will do EVERYTHING I can to ensure that Obama does NOT have a second term

I appreciate the sentiment. If Romney is the nominee, it doesn't what you or anyone else does, Democrats will win.

80 posted on 04/04/2012 7:29:37 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: JCS658

Just do what your master tells you to do and don’t worry about me. I’ll be fine without pathetic mewling cowards clinging to my ankles.


81 posted on 04/04/2012 7:35:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: JediJones
Which is the dumbest "number one issue" imaginable. If that's the most important issue, then why not nominate Hillary Clinton? It just shows the voters are sheeple led by the RINO media, who has been pushing the "Romney is electable" meme for at least 6 months now. They have nothing good to say about him based on his past and present record, so can only point to a mythical future proposition to try to sell him. And every voter who bought it is a brain dead idiot. The only issue that matters is electing someone who will promote conservative policies.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS!

82 posted on 04/04/2012 7:39:34 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: JCS658; cripplecreek
When we DO NOT call out the gop/e and their progressive protectionism and manipulation... we deny reality and become nothing more than drones... just like the dim voters.

LLS

83 posted on 04/04/2012 7:41:16 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: WOSG
Reagan got a lot of Democrats to vote for him. Was that so bad?

Reagan got conservative democrats to vote for him. Santorum got attacked by team Obomney for trying the same.

From Wiki

The work of Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg is a classic study of Reagan Democrats. Greenberg analyzed white ethnic voters (largely unionized auto workers) in Macomb County, Michigan, just north of Detroit. The county voted 63 percent for John F. Kennedy in 1960, but 66 percent for Reagan in 1980. He concluded that "Reagan Democrats" no longer saw Democrats as champions of their working class aspirations, but instead saw them as working primarily for the benefit of others: the very poor, feminists, the unemployed, African Americans, Latinos, and other groups. In addition, Reagan Democrats enjoyed gains during the period of economic prosperity that coincided with the Reagan administration following the "malaise" of the Carter administration. They also supported Reagan's strong stance on national security and opposed the 1980s Democratic Party on such issues as pornography, crime, and high taxes
84 posted on 04/04/2012 7:41:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: WOSG
Romney is at least a 50/50 shot at beating Obama.

Which is a ridiculous spot to be in since with just a good candidate we'd be more like 60/40.

The DNC/Obama team want to drag our the primary and so will attack Romney.

Spoken like a true GOP elitist who wants No One But Romney. The long primary doesn't hurt our candidate any more than it hurt Obama. The truth is the long primary has exposed how utterly crappy a candidate Romney is. Normally we wouldn't have found out until he went down in defeat in November. Now at least no one can say they weren't warned. And maybe next primary the voters will have learned to heed the signals better.

If over half the Republicans are voting against him, how in the world does anyone think he's going to win independents let alone soft Democrats? The only realistic shot we have to win the election is to damage Romney so badly that the party or the delegates abandon him at the convention. Unlikely but one can hold out hope that some external force like what derailed Cain shows its face a little too early now that he's seen as inevitable.

That leaves brokered convention as the last not-Romney option ... but do we want to pick our nominee and give them only 60 days? The GOP elites dont, which is why they are coming around Romney now.

LOL, NOW?! NOW?! They've been forcing this pathetic candidate on us for a year now. They and their surrogates have been out to destroy Palin, Cain, Newt, Santorum and everyone who presented a threat to their Wall Street RINO golden boy. You'll get no apology from me if something I say or do helps take Romney out. He deserves it and teaching the GOP elites a lesson is arguably more important than defeating Obama. If we lose our conservative opposition party, we've lost the country for good. A Romney win would pretty much destroy the conservative movement for a decade or more. An Obama win would only delay it 2 or 4 years.

Most of us here aren't little team-playing Republican sycophants. We're conservatives who believe in more than the "rah, rah, go team" cheerleading mentality for whatever limp, liberal loser the party sticks an "R" after their name and tries to shove down our throats. It's sheep like you who keep showing up and voting for these useless RINOs instead of having the courage to take back power from the elites and give it back to the average citizen.

85 posted on 04/04/2012 7:46:42 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: LibLieSlayer
When we DO NOT call out the gop/e and their progressive protectionism and manipulation... we deny reality and become nothing more than drones... just like the dim voters.

Exactly and all the self appointed GOP enforcers who are screeching that Romney must win at any cost are little different than Moveon.org.

Stand for what's right or be absorbed by the marxists.
86 posted on 04/04/2012 7:46:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: WOSG

I don’t agree. First, I don’t accept the comparison of Reagan to Romney. Second, Obama is beatable, but only by a Conservative. If you run Obama against Obama-lite you’ll get Obama every time. That is what happened when McCain was the Obama-lite candidate, and that is what will happen if Romney is the Obama-lite candidate.


87 posted on 04/04/2012 7:48:28 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: JediJones

Nice one.


88 posted on 04/04/2012 7:51:08 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: Sudetenland

“I suspect that Romney, or indeed any Republican candidate will handily defeat Obama”

That’s my gut feel. The Obama administration has too much going against it. As Peggy Noonan said recently, Obama’s getting creepy.


89 posted on 04/04/2012 7:51:31 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: WOSG
Reagan never sold his soul to the left and he did not run on positions and policies that were diametrically opposed to his actual governance in office... and his track record as Governor was much more Conservative than romney’s tenure. Reagan made mistakes as Governor and as President... but his honesty, Conservative ideology and ability to explain Conservatism to Americans and do so in such a way that convinced them that he was correct, was what won him the election... twice.

romney cannot explain with passion the Conservative ideology and lay out plans to solve America's problems using them... because he does not understand nor does he believe in them. America may elect romney... I doubt it... but he will not be any different than a run of the mill rat like clinton. Yes, a crusty white turd would be better than obama... but that is what mitt is... a crusty white turd.

LLS

90 posted on 04/04/2012 7:56:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: getgo
>> Those who say Romney is another Obama are either a bit crazed or else they are liberal plants <<

Agreed. Still, a big question lingers in my mind:

Do the latter outnumber the former?

Well, at least I can hope it's the latter, because the image of "crazed" Freepers isn't a pleasant one!

91 posted on 04/04/2012 7:57:18 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Dr. Thorne
Surprise, surprise! Look at all the “CONservatives” letting the Left define us, control us and demoralize us!

(It's working!) Looks like you are almost looking forward to another 4 years of Obama. Since NOTHING is good enough for you and if it is not absolutely the way you want it, then you will make sure everybody else loses along with you.

92 posted on 04/04/2012 7:58:38 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: 2012winner
And you believe that Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich will inspire moderates and independents ?

Ann Coulter? John Boehner? Is that you?

How do you think Newt won back the House in 1994 after 40 years? He knows how to market a conservative message to independents more than anyone else out there. He speaks in plain English and explains the practical benefits of conservatism with specific examples. And at least Rick Santorum provides a clear contrast to Obama, which will inspire people to vote if they are truly unhappy with Obama's presidency. You give them Romney, who's message is he'll do the same things as Obama but he'll just do them better, and they will start doubting that Obama is that bad of a president at all. And unless they think the incumbent is truly terrible, they're not likely to take a chance replacing him with an unknown.

It's thinking like yours that brought us Romney. You "assume" independents will only vote for middling, murky moderates. Therefore you throw true conservatives under the bus and support a guy you probably don't even like much because you think you're some genius political strategist who's outsmarted everybody. Then you'll act shocked in November when you realize you weren't the only one who disliked your moderate candidate, everyone else does too.

That's why voting with your heart in the primary works. Because that's how people will be voting in November. If your vote now is based on some convoluted strategy, then it will be a poor predictor of how people vote in November because they'll be voting with their heart.

93 posted on 04/04/2012 8:17:54 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: WOSG
Reagan got a lot of Democrats to vote for him. Was that so bad?

Democrats voting for our candidate is fine. Liberals not so much. We would hope we can get moderate Democrats who may disagree with us on some issues, but agree on enough of them combined with a general dissatisfaction with Obama to switch over to us. The key is we appeal to them on the issues where they're conservative and maybe convince them those issues are the most important right now. If we say we're going to back liberal policies to get Democrat votes, then why are we even wasting our time? At that point we've lived long enough to see ourselves become the villain. But there are a lot of people who are not 100% with their party and others who are just voting "D" out of habit whose votes we should court.

94 posted on 04/04/2012 8:24:08 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: .30Carbine

I am not willing to stand by and do nothing. It may be that O is guaranteed but since I live in today and not the future I will do everything I can...

And it behooves all of those who don’t like the idea of another term for O and the dims to do everything they can to prevent it


95 posted on 04/04/2012 8:27:04 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I’m not demoralized at all. I’m just certain that Romney won’t win. Luckily for me, my life is not based on political outcomes. The GOP is getting what it wants, but it’s not getting my vote as I won’t vote for evil be it Democrat or Republican.


96 posted on 04/04/2012 9:11:29 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: jersey117
MSNBC gets their talking points directly from the WH.

The latest talking point is delivered to Mika. Every now and then, you can catch her looking at her blackberry/iphone while the show is on. It happened this morning at about 5:15 Central Time.

97 posted on 04/04/2012 9:16:10 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Right, but then, you will be the first to bitch the loudest when Obama wins a second term because so many of you malcontents, decided it would go against your egos to join the effort to stop Obama from winning, by what ever means we have to work with.

And when Obama comes for you, after this country is permanently ruined, you can keep telling yourself that your “Principles” were well worth losing it for.

98 posted on 04/04/2012 9:20:22 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Bigtigermike

Those precious “moderates” as you describe them are by definition mostly non partisan and would eschew (what the conceive to be) either a radical Lefty or Righty.

This is all about how he comes across as a candidate in the general election. If he gets the support of the Reg Republicans he will get the support of the moderates in sufficient numbers and even get a few of the Dems to hop on board. I put absolutely NO weight in those polls which claim Romney is insincere, plastic, smarmy or any of the other terms used to describe him. I believe the polls at this point are wholly manipulated to be nothing more then push polls.


99 posted on 04/04/2012 10:07:33 AM PDT by getgo
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To: JediJones

Which history says you won’t have after 2014. The opposing party to the president usually wins seats in the mid-terms. Romney has proven as governor that he will bend over for a liberal legislature, if not try to “out-liberal” them if he thinks that’s where the wind is blowing. This is why we’re probably better off with him losing now. Then we can maintain gridlock against Obama, win more seats in 2014, and get a better nominee in 2016. If we get Romney now, chances are Dems will win seats in 2014 and then win back the presidency in 2016, a repeat of 2006 and 2008. Then they’ll have the mandate and the majority to pass single payer health care, cap-and-trade and do everything else they want.

If Obama wins relection there will be no country worth saving in 2016. Obama will not let gridlock stop him. Obama is not going to play by the rules in his second term when it comes to implenting his socialist agenda.


100 posted on 04/04/2012 10:07:47 AM PDT by 2012winner
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