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'Who, What, Why: How many soldiers died in the US Civil War?'
BBC News ^ | 4th April 2012 | BBC News

Posted on 04/04/2012 6:34:20 AM PDT by the scotsman

'A study suggests a previously widely accepted death toll of the US Civil War may actually be way under the mark. How many did perish in this conflict, fought before the era of modern record-keeping and DNA identification?

The US Civil War was incontrovertibly the bloodiest, most devastating conflict in American history, and it remains unknown - and unknowable - exactly how many men died in Union and Confederate uniform.

Now, it appears a long-held estimate of the war's death toll could have undercounted the dead by as many as 130,000. That is 21% of the earlier estimate - and more than twice the total US dead in Vietnam.'

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1 posted on 04/04/2012 6:34:29 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

Thanks for posting.

The battlefield photo with the dead soldiers which accompanies the story just broke my heart.

As much as I try to wrap my head around what the Civil War must have been like I just don’t think — particularly as someone with no military or war experience — what those soldiers (and the rest of the country, for that matter) went through.


2 posted on 04/04/2012 6:41:02 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled
As much as I try to wrap my head around what the Civil War must have been like I just don’t think — particularly as someone with no military or war experience — what those soldiers (and the rest of the country, for that matter) went through.

Years ago I had a dream that I was *IN* the civil war. It was horrifying. The subsequent consequence of the civil war (expansion of the Federal Behemoth) are also horrifying.

3 posted on 04/04/2012 6:56:43 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: the scotsman

The Lincoln Library in Springfield, Illinois has a display on the Civil War and there’s a running counter of the daily deaths that cover the war years and I remember it was around 700,000 on both sides. The war covered an area equivalent of the distance from Oslo, Norway to Athens, Greece. Greece being the same size as Arkansas or Alabama. On the same note, you can almost fit two and a half Europe’s in the US.


4 posted on 04/04/2012 7:01:26 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse)
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To: the scotsman

I’ll never forget a statistic that Pat Buchanan (why oh why didn’t he run for pres?) mentioned years ago: The number of Negroes brought to the U.S. in the slave trade numbered approx. 675,000 . . . the number of deaths in combat in the Civil War were approx. 660,000.

The similarity in these two numbers is almost too coincidental . . . almost 1 to 1 that God made us pay for the tragedy that was the slave trade and the Civil War.

I do a lecture here at my medical vocational school about Civil War Medicine. I start my lecture with asking the students for the years that the Civil War was fought, and very, very seldom do any of the students get within 60 years . . . thank you, public screwl systems!

Of course, you can argue that quite a few war deaths were from the slave-holding South, but virtually none of the southern combatants were slave holders.


5 posted on 04/04/2012 7:02:34 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: AtlasStalled
It's very hard for me to wrap my head around any kind of history. And yet I try to do it every day. As William Faulkner said, "The past isn't dead; it isn't even past."
6 posted on 04/04/2012 7:03:08 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who does not have 3,000 years at his fingertips is living hand-to-mouth."-J. Wolfgang von Goethe)
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To: laweeks

300,000 mostly white men from the north gave their lives in the struggle that freed the slaves.


7 posted on 04/04/2012 7:09:38 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: the scotsman

The Civil War makes me sick. Every other civilized country got rid of slavery without such bloodshed. Just don’t tell me Lincoln was a great President.


8 posted on 04/04/2012 7:22:08 AM PDT by grumpa
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To: Fido969

Are we willing to pay that price to rescue our nation from
tyranny?


9 posted on 04/04/2012 7:27:34 AM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: laweeks

Wow. That is a sobering statistic.

Start thinking along these lines and you’ll really get a lump in your throat. The current death toll from abortion:

53 million.


10 posted on 04/04/2012 7:39:14 AM PDT by Claud
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To: SkyDancer

Battle for Atlanta 150th anniversary is in 2014 and
Gettysberg 150th is next year 2013
Just got back from shiloh 150th reeanctment.


11 posted on 04/04/2012 7:39:25 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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When I get home (I’m working in Australia) I want to visit some of the battle fields. Gettysburg for one but some of the others. And you’re right, I can’t start or end my day without checking in here.


12 posted on 04/04/2012 7:43:49 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse)
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To: the scotsman

“It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

Lest we forget. Lest we forget


13 posted on 04/04/2012 7:45:25 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: SkyDancer

There was an estimated 50,000 visitors and 12,000 reenactors
there.


14 posted on 04/04/2012 8:00:52 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: laweeks

ARe you so young that you do not remember the multiple times that Pat ran for president???


15 posted on 04/04/2012 8:15:33 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: grumpa

Your history is incorrect.


16 posted on 04/04/2012 8:16:54 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
Are you so young that you do not remember the multiple times that Pat ran for president???

Yes, I do remember. But I can dream, can't I? I mean, here we are with a dyed in the wool, 100% liberal democrat about to head our ticket against the monster in the White House.

For whom do we vote: Obambi or Obambi-lite. Another Dole-Bush-McLame choice foisted on the conservatives.

We all know that even if Romnesty got into the White House, he'll cave on homosexual activity, abortions, mandated health care, and high taxes. He's a dishrag . . . and we're stuck with him. Yee GODS!

17 posted on 04/04/2012 8:21:49 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: the scotsman

Why is it that very few histories of the Civil War state the degree to which the European oligarchs aided the South, both in the years leading up to and during war, with money, war material, diplomacy and espionage? The installation of Maximillian in Mexico by the French was designed to open a southern flank against the western US and Canada as a British asset was a base for spy networks and agitation of the Indians in the US frontier regions. America’s enemies list needs to include this neo-aristocracy element that continues to operate as a global financial oligarchy today.


18 posted on 04/04/2012 8:22:09 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: the scotsman

All because the Democrats decided to push slavery west. Sound familiar?


19 posted on 04/04/2012 8:24:48 AM PDT by ricmc2175
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To: laweeks

And which house and senate candidates are you actively supporting??? I will take Romney and a conservative Congress any day. It is up to us to hold our elected officials feet to the fire


20 posted on 04/04/2012 8:29:01 AM PDT by Nifster
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