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Santorum might drop out rather than lose Pennsylvania primary (Losing would end political career)
The Hill ^ | 04/04/2012 | Cameron Joseph

Posted on 04/04/2012 10:44:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/04/2012 10:44:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I still think Santorum is and always has been in this thing with Romney.


2 posted on 04/04/2012 10:49:47 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: SeekAndFind

What political career would that be?


3 posted on 04/04/2012 10:54:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hang in there. Romney is going to begin moving to the center soon with buyer's remorse following thereafter.
4 posted on 04/04/2012 10:56:50 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s one of the foremost spineless RINOs.


5 posted on 04/04/2012 10:58:08 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: SeekAndFind

I tend to agree. If he loses his home state for the second consecutive time, he will have no chance in 2016 (not that he does anyway).

Maybe he will drop out and give Newt a boost.


6 posted on 04/04/2012 11:01:11 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: ReneeLynn
That's why Romney outspends him x5+ in every state. It's really a very clever albeit expensive conspiracy.
7 posted on 04/04/2012 11:04:44 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My point exactly. Rick’s Pennsylvania career ended the day he was electorally wiped out by that ambulatory vegetable named Bob Casey.

Personally I think Rick would make a dandy appointment to the SCOTUS. Give those Democrat Senators a severe case of heartburn over their whole “Senatorial Courtesty” thing.


8 posted on 04/04/2012 11:07:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind; Antoninus; Lazlo in PA

More Romneyite nonsense...


9 posted on 04/04/2012 11:09:13 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ReneeLynn

I still think Santorum is and always has been in this thing with Romney.
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And the 1969 Moon walk was staged in New Mexico.... never happened.

(Do I really need the sarc. tag?)


10 posted on 04/04/2012 11:13:05 AM PDT by no dems (I've always been crazy but that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ricky, say you will, just say you will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nEfuE8Pw4U&feature=fvwrel


11 posted on 04/04/2012 11:15:40 AM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t his career already over anyway if he transparently drops out to avoid said career-crushing loss in PA? I think the guy has to stay in through PA at this point.


12 posted on 04/04/2012 11:16:00 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: SeekAndFind

i really am perplexed by the anti-Rick comments by the anti-Mitts.

i’d like to see mitt lose PA NC IN WV and Rs is the only one to beat him right now. Look at the MAY calendar. Could be a struggle for mitt ... through TX.


13 posted on 04/04/2012 11:22:02 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and I will not go to Maryland to campaign against MITT.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Actually I think he has to stay in at least until Pennsylvania. One of the relentless charges against him this round is that he lost so badly in his Senate bid. If he wins PA, he undoes that. If he doesn't, he's no worse. Besides he's good on the stump and has time to work it. So Romney gets to burn through some more money, and pass out subs with Toomey this time. It's all good.
14 posted on 04/04/2012 11:26:23 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Comments like these are the same sorts of things that were used against Sarah Palin. Most of them could be traced back to Team Romney then.


15 posted on 04/04/2012 11:34:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sarah Palin needs to be the ‘12 GOP POTUS candidate, so that all of this “madness and frustration for all conservatives, everywhere” can, finally, end! Please, and Thank You!


16 posted on 04/04/2012 11:38:55 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Buckeye....I like how you think. And this is the second time I have heard this suggestion, and I think it’s brilliant.


17 posted on 04/04/2012 11:41:37 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

newt is done. Santourum is finished. It’s over. Romney will simply have to do.


18 posted on 04/04/2012 11:44:09 AM PDT by wny
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To: Buckeye McFrog
My point exactly. Rick’s Pennsylvania career ended the day he was electorally wiped out by that ambulatory vegetable named Bob Casey.

I disagree. Mike DeWine of Ohio provides an excellent blueprint for what could have been for Santorum's future. DeWine lost his U. S. Senate seat in 2006, but was elected OH Attorney General two years later. If Santorum has run for PA Attorney General this year, I have little doubt that he would be elected. These type of elections in PA tend to be low-key affairs, and Santorum's name ID would have been hard to beat.

19 posted on 04/04/2012 11:46:02 AM PDT by Kevin C
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

No, no, no! Palin for Energy Secretary!!! Drill, baby, drill!!!

And for the record, I would like to see Ron Paul in charge of the Fed. Newt Secretary of State. Lt. Col. West as Veep....(in a Santorum administration)!!!


20 posted on 04/04/2012 11:46:17 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
i really am perplexed by the anti-Rick comments by the anti-Mitts

Yeah, me too.

(1) In every state, from now until August, every Santorum loss is a Romney win.

(2a) If Romney wins enough states, Gingrich has NO chance.
(2b) If Romney loses enough states, which in every case will be a loss to Santorum, then there will be a brokered convention, and a chance for a better candidate than Romney, possibly Gingrich.

I guess they consider Santorum to be a worse choice than Romney.

21 posted on 04/04/2012 11:48:29 AM PDT by kidd
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I too am perplexed by the anti-Rick posters. One things for sure, they’re Romnians or they wouldn’t be trying to kill off our last hope of stopping Romney.

They’re getting ready to shake the etch-a-sketch and we are the only ones who can stop them. If you live in PA, get busy. Get the word out how Rick manages his campaign funds vs. Mitt money-grows-on-trees Romney and ask which one people want to manage U.S. economy.

Even if Rick’s not your guy, you can have a choice at the convention if Rick stays in.

If Rick gets out, our options are gone, for good. Please, PA, wake up before it’s too late.


22 posted on 04/04/2012 11:51:23 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Then she should have run when she had the chance. But she chose not to. She does not want to be elected President in 2012.


23 posted on 04/04/2012 11:56:32 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a shame, but I hope he releases all his delegates to Newt if he does this.


24 posted on 04/04/2012 11:57:53 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: ReneeLynn

Renee Lynn, NO ONE would host hundreds of town meetings, through the roughest of weather, just for the sake of helping a guy who would have voted against him half the time had he been a Senator. Your conjecture is NOT rational, with all due respect. Bob


25 posted on 04/04/2012 12:10:10 PM PDT by alstewartfan ( 27 of 36 Romney judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Fedewa speculated that Santorum may be encountering what Huckabee faced near the end of his campaign.

Gee, what a shock, a Huckabee comparison!

26 posted on 04/04/2012 12:12:40 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Santorum has caused enough trouble in more ways than he may even realize. The insiders and the media used him ( to stop Newt Gingrich of preventing Romney of having nearly a 4 year old promise; that he is next in line to run at the top of the ticket ) Yes, even Rush (loyalty to his boss and the Bushes), did as well. This entire primary has been hard to watch since we are missing a perfect opportunity to have much needed reforms. All that we will end up with is either Obama or a liberal democrat who feels more comfortable working with liberal ideas than a conservative idea. Because he does not fully understand conservative ideas. Romney’s wife even made a remark that she doesn’t know any conservatives. Romney’s record is troublesome and gives us proof for those concerns. We are not extremists. The conservatives have to see, there is no place for them where we are wanted at the table of ideas. Moderates are winning the debate and Romney’s win will do much damage to the party. Do they think voters will respect this kind of leadership!? Romney, attack to win strategy.

Rush is saved-his family values base never figures it out. Palin stepped aside after Rick Perry got in> that’s when her Jesus moment came> there was not room for a number of conservatives aiming for a specific group of voters (the party’s base). She knew this was going to happen-divide us like before. Rick, if only he had put his country first (not his faith), had united with Newt long ago, we could be looking at a different outlook. Palin would have helped Newt more and the party knows that. Look at the signals she gave.

Drudge, Ann/ Andy, Daily Caller, The Hill, Fox News and others have been doing whatever it takes to put out misleading stories. Rush set up the weak guy so others would go towards Mitt. The longer Rick stayed in, the more voters went to Mitt. The media’s next step will be to destroy Rick Santorum. Maybe, he should go for his own peace of mind. The only thing we can do is pray that the delegates at Tampa will refuse Romney on site- they don’t have to accept him-and who cares if the party’s world is embarrassed and Liberal Mitt is told that he is not trusted.

Mitt Romney looks like an undertaker-who will say anything to get your trust. Romney is not better than Obama distrustfully, a lair and appears to be set up candidate. There is no way that I will be supporting him nor voting for him. The more that I see of this primary, it looks to be rigged. It will be interesting to see the GOP getting a slap down because it is coming and the Obama people know it. We will never set our conservative agenda in place with the moderates. It is not working when you have 2 parties almost of the same. I am done watching Mitt Tv-. From Rubio, Paul Ryan being Mitt’s best friend to further their careers, nothing more. This stuff is not inspirational, it’s divide and conquer practices only.


27 posted on 04/04/2012 12:15:19 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: wny
Sad but true, Santorum played his role well, the 'Huckabee' role.

The GOP Establishmen has learned it's lesson well, put up a 'social conservative' to divide the conservative vote and let their guy coast to victory.

28 posted on 04/04/2012 12:15:30 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You know Newt stayed in the race and Sanotorum beat him. Sick of all this talk about he should have teamed up with Newt. Had that happened, they would have both been out a long time ago. Newt lost his support, plain and simple. Nothing to do with anyone else.

Meanwhile, though I don’t like everything about Rick, I like that he’s a fighter. He’s been smeared far more than Newt yet has managed to win time and again. And I like that he views money as a finite resource, not to be tossed out like to the voters like candy in a parade like Mitt.

If this country is going to get back on its feet, we need to stop Romney. So stop all the Rick sucks crap and get on board or at least, get out of the way.


29 posted on 04/04/2012 12:23:21 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Christie at the beach

No matter how many of these threads you propagate, Newt will never be President, and neither will Romney.


30 posted on 04/04/2012 12:25:27 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are most of my comments.)
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To: ReneeLynn

Seems to be that Newt has done the most for Romney. Not sure it was a conspiracy.


31 posted on 04/04/2012 12:28:58 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Christie at the beach

It’s not easy to accept the fact that our presidential candidates are more selected by the establishment, than elected by the people.


32 posted on 04/04/2012 12:30:15 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: itsahoot

You say, Neither will Romney-

are you threatening him.... or living in fairy land....


33 posted on 04/04/2012 12:30:30 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

They enjoy their delusions that Newt is gonna win it all. LOL

Kool aid is a powerful drink.


34 posted on 04/04/2012 12:31:09 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That is a fabulous idea, but it would likely wind up like the case of Bush’s appointment of Alberto Gonzales. The Senate and House had a melt down over such a “Conservative” justice on the courts.


35 posted on 04/04/2012 12:32:59 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe he'll endorse Romney. Again.


36 posted on 04/04/2012 12:34:23 PM PDT by McGruff (Umm...I'm thinking.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
- >Personally I think Rick would make a dandy appointment to the SCOTUS. Give those Democrat Senators a severe case of heartburn over their whole “Senatorial Courtesty” thing.

After Santorum went on national television to say that George Zimmerman was guilty before all of the evidence came out. What are you thinking?!

37 posted on 04/04/2012 12:39:20 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
That is all, still over a month away. The momentum has already shifted and the demographics will be 180 degrees different by then. You can still fantasize over it, but reality will disappoint you sooner or later. Santorum’s early appeal is gone completely.

The things he said about Ryan and Johnson last night during his PA “victory” speech, did not sit well with most of the electorate and like a recurring rash, Santorum injured himself further again, by opening his oversized mouth.

38 posted on 04/04/2012 12:41:47 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Do not lose hope, Bush Senior endorsed Romney. Romney is
a bishop in a non-Christian sect. How does that work? Romney supports abortion no matter what he says now, there is no evidence of his change.

Heaven is watching...pray for Santorum and offer the smallest sacrifice or suffering.

http://www.holylove.org/messages_by_year.php#bottom

April 1, 2012

St. Joseph says: “Praise be to Jesus.”

“Tonight I come to you somberly under my title - Terror of Demons. As this Holy Week opens, be assured that Heaven needs your every prayer and sacrifice. Entire nations are following the path of Satan’s deception, which he presents under the guise of ‘religion’. These ones are bent on self-destruction and the demise of all who are not similarly persuaded.”

“Christ suffered for all, and is not in this mentality of death and destruction to usher in the arrival of another and false messiah.”

“You must recognize Satan and his designs to destroy you before it is too late. Your prayers and sacrifices are the arsenal Heaven needs to destroy Satan’s plans.”

“I have been sent here tonight not to frighten you, but to encourage you and to enlist your aid.”


39 posted on 04/04/2012 12:43:16 PM PDT by stpio
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“It’s a shame, but I hope he releases all his delegates to Newt if he does this.”

Newt is running behind Paul in some polls. Maybe Newt should release his to Paul?

Newt is holding on to see if he can broker a deal to get Romney over the top so he can get a plum spot. If Santorum wins too much, maybe Romney can’t get over the top even with Newt.

Newt just wants to be relevant, and doesn’t care who has to pay for his intransigence, even if it’s America.


40 posted on 04/04/2012 12:50:03 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: stpio
Santorum was also for abortion a few years back and voted on legislation that supported it. (When he was a Representative)

Romney did much the same as Santorum did. Changed his views later, after they fully realized the impact of their position.

You can hardly condemn Romney for something that you should rightly also condemn Santorum for, but give a free pass to Santorum on the interim.

41 posted on 04/04/2012 12:52:54 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: wny

Do for what ? Having 2 radical leftist Democrats in a November runoff ?


42 posted on 04/04/2012 1:26:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Santorum was also for abortion a few years back...You can hardly condemn Romney for something that you should rightly also condemn Santorum for, but give a free pass to Santorum on the interim.

You are simply a liar. Santorum's "pro-abortion" dalliance was in 1996. Since then he as done more than any politician alive to advance the cause of Life.

What has your guy Romney done? Answer? Nothing. Why? Because he's not pro-life and never has been.

And yes, I'm saying "your guy Romney" because it's patently obvious by now that you've been a Romneybot from day one. Your "rah, rah Newt" stuff was nothing but a cover.
43 posted on 04/04/2012 1:31:37 PM PDT by Antoninus (Romney Inc. -- Now attempting a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.)
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To: ReneeLynn

Funny way to show it since they seem to despise each other.

What’s in it for Romney?


44 posted on 04/04/2012 1:38:48 PM PDT by altura
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I am perplexed, bewildered and discouraged by a lot of comments I see on here lately.


45 posted on 04/04/2012 1:40:56 PM PDT by altura
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To: wny

All I’m doing now is praying that Romney will be able to beat Obama and be a good president. Or at least a decent one.


46 posted on 04/04/2012 1:47:27 PM PDT by altura
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“Romney did much the same as Santorum did. Changed his views later, after they fully realized the impact of their position.”

~ ~ ~

You’ve said this before but it doesn’t hold water. Everyone
sees Santorum’s change, his vote for life. Look at the size
of his family. The man follows God totally, he rejects
Contraception.

Romney, no, it’s all words. At present, his signing Romneycare which contains abortion, that’s his legislative record.

Romney is a “con”, a habitual liar. He thinks no one realizes.

You can change, be for life, follow God P.F.


47 posted on 04/04/2012 1:52:20 PM PDT by stpio
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To: altura

I am sorry, you gotta change sister.

God can’t answer your prayer. Romney belongs to a sect
who rejects the basic tenants of Christianity.


48 posted on 04/04/2012 1:56:12 PM PDT by stpio
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To: Antoninus

NOTE: Read this article if you dare, Santorum was into it more than you care to admit;http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/10549-santorum-voted-to-subsidize-abortion-planned-parenthood

As far as Romney changing his position, This from a recent article on the subject;

Although pro-life advocates are normally jubilant over abortion advocates converting to the pro-life position, Romney’s shift is seen by some pro-life advocates as political in nature — occurring around the time he started moving nationally towards a presidential run.

Depending on whether pro-life voters accept the change in position or see it skeptically, Romney has either remained committed to his pro-life views or has used the issue to get in good stead with pro-life voters.

Following the shift, Romney did veto the pro-embryonic research bill but skeptics say the legislature had the votes to override it and ultimately did so. Skeptics also point out that his state-run health care plan provides for taxpayer funded abortions, but those who say Romney is now genuinely pro-life point out that a state Supreme Court decision forced their inclusion over anyone’s objections.

Romney spoke to pro-life advocates over the weekend at the Faith and Freedom Conference in Washington, D.C, and told the values voters in attendance that, “We’re united in our belief in the sanctity of human life.” The question will be whether voters in places like Iowa and South Carolina believe him.


49 posted on 04/04/2012 1:58:52 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: stpio

Stop preaching to the rest of us. Your sanctimonius hype is best kept to yourself. You only turn people away by placing yourself on that self righteous pedistal and telling the rest of us we are all wrong, when you are not even sure of what you believe yourself.

Until you are able to walk on water, or bring the dead back to life yourself, then you are no better than any one of the rest of us miserable sinners. So, thump your Bible at home or in church, or start a religious thread of your own. Right now, we are talking about politics.


50 posted on 04/04/2012 2:08:05 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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