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Carney: Obama remark about Supreme Court was misunderstood
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Posted on 04/04/2012 2:30:56 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Carney: Obama remark about Supreme Court was misunderstood By Jonathan Easley - 04/04/12 04:25 PM ET

In an occasionally testy exchange with reporters, White House press secretary Jay Carney defended President Obama’s remark that it would be “unprecedented” for the Supreme Court to overturn the administration’s healthcare law, saying the comment had been misunderstood.

Speaking at a Rose Garden news conference on Monday, Obama weighed in on the matter for the first time since last week’s high court hearings that left many Democrats fearful that the five conservative judges would band together to strike down his signature domestic achievement.

“Ultimately, I’m confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress,” the president said.

Republicans pounced on the remarks, citing more than 150 cases in which the Supreme Court had overturned an act of Congress.

On Tuesday, Obama said he meant the Supreme Court hadn’t overturned a law that involved the Commerce Clause, as the healthcare law does, in the last 80 years — since the New Deal.

Carney defended that take at a White House press briefing on Wednesday, when asked if the president regretted his initial remarks.

“Not at all,” Carney said. “As I’ve said a number of times now, the president was making the unremarkable observation about 80 years of Supreme Court history.”

When asked if that meant the president was now clarifying his remarks, Carney shot back, “Only because a handful of people didn’t understand what he was referring to.”

“The fact that it would be unprecedented in the modern era of the Supreme Court, since the New Deal era, for the Supreme Court to overturn legislation passed by Congress, designed to deal with a matter of economic importance like our healthcare system,” Carney continued.

“That’s what would be unprecedented about it. He did not suggest, did not mean and did not suggest that it would be unprecedented for the court to rule that a law was unconstitutional. That’s what the Supreme Court is there to do. But it has under the Commerce Clause deferred to Congress’s authority on matters of national economic importance.”

Critics blasted the president for his comments, saying his remarks were an attempt to influence the outcome of the court’s ruling and claiming that the president attempted to diminish the justices by referring to them as “unelected.”

Carney said that was not meant as a swipe against the Supreme Court, and that the president respects the power of the judicial branch.

“Nobody would ever contend in his office, and he certainly is not contending, that the Supreme Court doesn’t have as its right and responsibility the ability to overturn laws passed by Congress as unconstitutional,” Carney said. “He was referring to 85 years of Supreme Court precedent with matters like the one under consideration, and it’s maybe fun to pretend otherwise, but everyone here knows what he meant.”

“[The president] was a law professor,” Carney added. “He understands constitutional law and constitutional precedent and the role of the Supreme Court.”


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KEYWORDS: carney; democrats; obama; obamacare; scotus; youlie
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To: Sub-Driver

I heard Obama’s comments and he meant what he said. I was driving at the time and nearly wrecked my car at the arrogance of the man!


51 posted on 04/04/2012 3:37:04 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Justice Smith - Fifth Circuit Court, relevant transcript in full context:

Justice Smith: Does the Department of Justice recognize that federal courts have the authority in appropriate circumstances to strike federal statutes because of one or more constitutional infirmities?

Kaersvang: Yes, your honor. Of course, there would need to be a severability analysis, but yes.

Justice Smith: I’m referring to statements by the president in the past few days to the effect…that it is somehow inappropriate for what he termed “unelected” judges to strike acts of Congress that have enjoyed — he was referring, of course, to Obamacare — what he termed broad consensus in majorities in both houses of Congress.
That has troubled a number of people who have read it as somehow a challenge to the federal courts or to their authority or to the appropriateness of the concept of judicial review. And that’s not a small matter. So I want to be sure that you’re telling us that the attorney general and the Department of Justice do recognize the authority of the federal courts through unelected judges to strike acts of Congress or portions thereof in appropriate cases.

Kaersvang: Marbury v. Madison is the law, your honor, but it would not make sense in this circumstance to strike down this statute, because there’s no –

Justice Smith: I would like to have from you by noon on Thursday…a letter stating what is the position of the attorney general and the Department of Justice, in regard to the recent statements by the president, stating specifically and in detail in reference to those statements what the authority is of the federal courts in this regard in terms of judicial review. That letter needs to be at least three pages single spaced, no less, and it needs to be specific. It needs to make specific reference to the president’s statements and again to the position of the attorney general and the Department of Justice.


52 posted on 04/04/2012 3:37:16 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Sub-Driver

How about during SOTU when he lambasted them to their faces after they overturned McPain-Feingold?


53 posted on 04/04/2012 3:42:55 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Sub-Driver

You guys just don’t get it. He wasn’t speaking English when he said that. He was speaking Obamanese. So, bow down and worship!


54 posted on 04/04/2012 3:42:59 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Mexico and Canada make poor hostages. ;p


55 posted on 04/04/2012 3:45:15 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Sub-Driver

We’re back to what “is” is.


56 posted on 04/04/2012 3:45:27 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Sub-Driver
When asked if that meant the president was now clarifying his remarks, Carney shot back, “Only because a handful of people didn’t understand what he was referring to.”

So, Obama wasn't wrong, and he didn't misspeak. We're all just too stupid to understand his pan-dimensional chess-player mind.

57 posted on 04/04/2012 3:46:03 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (If we had a President, he'd look like Newt.)
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To: RagingBull
0bama only remembered Lockner v. Florida--which was a state law being overturned, hence, not really a good parallel at all--because Lockner dealt with the 14th Amendment, the only subject beyond Community Organizer 101 on which Zero lectured at the University of Chicago. (h/t Rush)

HF

58 posted on 04/04/2012 3:52:41 PM PDT by holden
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To: Sub-Driver
Carney is the most talented spin artist I've ever seen in political theater.
59 posted on 04/04/2012 3:54:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Sub-Driver
“[The president] was a law professor,” Carney added ....

And I'm the queen of England.

The lies never end with this jerk.

60 posted on 04/04/2012 3:57:36 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Sub-Driver

Playing the “you’re too stupid to understand what he meant” card.


61 posted on 04/04/2012 3:57:46 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Sub-Driver

What?

The Brilliant Won (intended) doesn’t know how to communicate accurately despite his advanced degree in constitutional law?

Yeah, I guess the Dummycrats will fall for this.


62 posted on 04/04/2012 4:03:40 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Typical 0bama lie. We mere mortals just aren’t ‘smart enough to understand’ his utter brilliance.

FUBO. We know exactly what you meant.


63 posted on 04/04/2012 4:06:37 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (There will be no vote for Myth Romney in my house. Period.)
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To: Sub-Driver
... when asked if the president regretted his initial remarks. “Not at all,” Carney said ...

Why would a dictator regret anything?

64 posted on 04/04/2012 4:06:37 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Poor thing...nobody ever really understands tyrant-wannabes.

Particularly as they get closer to achieving their statist, totalitarian goals.

I mean look at Lennin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, Kim Jong-il, etc., etc.

Fact is, all too many of us understand him completely.

THE MAN WHO DESPISES AMERICA
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm


65 posted on 04/04/2012 4:08:21 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Sub-Driver
I'm getting a sense that the Obama people know he has stepped on a political landmine here ... a landmine that he planted himself, by the way.

Now he's backpedaling like an All-Pro NFL cornerback, trying to undo the damage. When they trot out this Carney jack@ss to tell reporters that they "misunderstood" something they heard with their own ears just a day or two earlier, then you know Obama has a serious problem.

66 posted on 04/04/2012 4:08:49 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Sub-Driver
Obozo’s legacy will be that he was misunderstood. Oh, woe is me, says the TOTUS.
67 posted on 04/04/2012 4:09:52 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Gabz

I mean really...has anyone ever come forth to say that they were a student when our great leader supposedly taught AS A LECTURER. I think he got paid to be a lecturer but never showed. He was off sniffing crack somewhere or using a pipe. This creature (mr affirmnative ac tion him self) is an unknown and a worthless sack.


68 posted on 04/04/2012 4:11:20 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Gabz

I mean really...has anyone ever come forth to say that they were a student when our great leader supposedly taught AS A LECTURER. I think he got paid to be a lecturer but never showed. He was off sniffing crack somewhere or using a pipe. This creature (mr affirmnative ac tion him self) is an unknown and a worthless sack.


69 posted on 04/04/2012 4:13:29 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: bestintxas
What we really have is an unprecedented alien in the White House.

If I may be so bold as to modify your excellent statement a bit.... What we really have is an unprecedented illegal alien in the White House.

He is still a citizen of Indonesia without even so much as a green card.

70 posted on 04/04/2012 4:18:21 PM PDT by Two Thirds Vote Aye (I was saying 'I hope he fails' before Rush was.)
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To: Eleutheria5
As long as the ghetto crowd gets riled up to start riots, that's all that matters to Obunga.
71 posted on 04/04/2012 4:19:27 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Sub-Driver

That makes him look good to his illegal voters and base and the Supremes look like they’re really trying to find a way to do something about the healthcare fiasco.


72 posted on 04/04/2012 4:22:40 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Robert Gibbs grew tired of doing the W.O.R.M., Now it’s Carneys turn to spin What Obama Really Meant! Bet he’s already getting sick of WORM’s!


73 posted on 04/04/2012 4:25:32 PM PDT by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: Sub-Driver
“He understands constitutional law and constitutional precedent and the role of the Supreme Court.”

He understands it, doesn't like it, and wants to disregard it.

74 posted on 04/04/2012 4:33:43 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: bestintxas

They must have Baghdad Bob sequestered somewhere in the White House coaching Carney before these performances. Although I think even Baghdad Bob would have said, “Dude, they’re not going to believe that!”, with Carny’s latest line of bovine excrement.


75 posted on 04/04/2012 4:39:29 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: John Semmens
"Paging John Semmens! John Semmens! They're doing it again, trying to write semi-news/semi-satire!"

"Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize." -- Tom Lehrer, 1973

"Political satire was stabbed in the back, hung, drawn, quartered, and buried in an unmarked grave, when Barack Obama became President." -- Dayglored, 2012

Honest to God, John, I had to look at the byline and credits of this article three times before I was willing to accept that it wasn't you under an alias.

76 posted on 04/04/2012 4:40:36 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Sub-Driver

The Executive and the Judicial branches have clashed multiple times historically but unless both Houses stand behind the President,he can’t ignore the Supremes......not on this one anyway.


77 posted on 04/04/2012 4:51:48 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: Sub-Driver

This is called Cleaning Off The Fan.


78 posted on 04/04/2012 4:56:55 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Sub-Driver
Carney: Obama remark about Supreme Court was misunderstood...

Translation:

All the other kids at school do it.

79 posted on 04/04/2012 4:59:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I believe in Cap and Trade. I know, I know... Cap spending and trade Obama!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Lyin SOB

All of them


80 posted on 04/04/2012 4:59:25 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Tawana Brawley, Anita Hill, King Rodney, OJ, Duke Lacrosse, Thugvon Martin. See a pattern?)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Nobody would ever contend in his office, and he certainly is not contending, that the Supreme Court doesn’t have as its right and responsibility the ability to overturn laws passed by Congress as unconstitutional,” Carney said.

Hmm. Well apparently the 5th Circuit Court Justices think Obama was contending exactly that. I assume they are who Carney is referring to as the few people who did not understand it.


81 posted on 04/04/2012 5:01:17 PM PDT by rod1
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To: Sub-Driver

Why don’t I believe him....? Ever?


82 posted on 04/04/2012 5:18:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"My Law, don't you be messin wit mah law! Little Eric Burden and The Animals, I mean peegs wit leepsteeck a playin how dey be misunnertstood an all.

http://youtu.be/d2FT4FprxDg

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-warns-unelected-supremes-overturning-my-law-would-be-judicial-activism/

83 posted on 04/04/2012 5:22:06 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Logical me

Cleary the worst in history.....even less patriotic than Carter/Clinton . . . far more corrupt than even LBJ and Clinton Much more incompetent that Carter....


84 posted on 04/04/2012 5:24:56 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Tawana Brawley, Anita Hill, King Rodney, OJ, Duke Lacrosse, Thugvon Martin. See a pattern?)
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To: Sub-Driver

“[The president] was a law professor,” Carney added. “He understands constitutional law and constitutional precedent and the role of the Supreme Court, and is working diligently to undermine the Constitution and the Supreme Court.”

There, I fixed it!


85 posted on 04/04/2012 5:31:51 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Gator113

Well said!!

You captured my sentiments to a tee!


86 posted on 04/04/2012 5:33:41 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Sub-Driver

Dumbo was just being nuanced. Shame on us for just being too stupid to hear what he actually said.


87 posted on 04/04/2012 5:41:27 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Sub-Driver

Why did he mention the number of years as 80 or 85. What is so magical about that number?


88 posted on 04/04/2012 5:50:07 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: georgia peach

from a Johns Creek neighbor . . . never! Carney is in so over his head it is pathetic.


89 posted on 04/04/2012 5:54:37 PM PDT by rhubarbk
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

LOL!!


90 posted on 04/04/2012 5:56:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Sub-Driver

And Obama continues to be unpresidented himself.


91 posted on 04/04/2012 6:24:50 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: skimbell

I feel like Rush is that Obama is not idiot and knows exactly what he is doing.

Think Adolf Hitler.


92 posted on 04/04/2012 6:40:54 PM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: PosterPoster
Actually they whiffed on the clarification too.
The Supremes struck down at least 2 cases in the 90s where it said. Y a 5-4 margin that Congress exceeded its authority under the commerce clause.
See US v. Lopez (1995) and US v. Morrison (1998).
What idiots!
93 posted on 04/04/2012 6:42:15 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Taxman

Obama =Guest Lecturer.


94 posted on 04/04/2012 7:01:19 PM PDT by codder too
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To: Sub-Driver

Dear Carney (what a delightfully appropriate name!), would you care to contrast “unelected” Supreme Court justices who face a confrimation process that is usually withering with the White House Czars?


95 posted on 04/04/2012 7:05:00 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "If Greece has been knocking back the ouzo, we're face down in the vat.")
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To: Sub-Driver

96 posted on 04/04/2012 8:24:33 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: codder too

The Great Pretender!


97 posted on 04/04/2012 8:32:02 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Carney: Obama remark about Supreme Court was misunderstood"

Translation: We didn't believe we would take such a hit in the polls so the Ministry of Truth (A.K.A. the MSM) is revamping our statement to conform with the new reality...

98 posted on 04/04/2012 8:36:49 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Sub-Driver
Now what Jay REALLY meant to say about Obama and the ideal judiciary he envisions:


99 posted on 04/04/2012 10:20:38 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Archiving the most VIRULENT, FACT-FILLED Anti-Romney FR Articles (So Many of them) For Later Release)
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To: Logical me

Maaaan what a HUGE crock of shit!!


100 posted on 04/04/2012 10:23:57 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Archiving the most VIRULENT, FACT-FILLED Anti-Romney FR Articles (So Many of them) For Later Release)
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