Skip to comments.Gingrich says he is confident he can earn the GOP nomination
Posted on 04/04/2012 7:54:21 PM PDT by VinL
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“I will sit out, may vote, but not sure.”
Why not work for good local candidates, the Senate, the House?
It's all part of this "Newt is strong in the South" delusional meme.
It's basically "Newt is less hated in the South" in reality.
There goes another strange Newtiac meme - the urge to "vet" everyone over and over again.
No matter how hard you try neither Mitt nor Santorum is going to turn out to have three ex-wives, one of whom he called on the phone for a divorce after cheating on her with another woman for years.
1) Most of the people that have been voting for Santorum and Gingrich are not voting for those candidates because they think Romney is the embodiment of Satan, they are voting for them because they like them better. The overwhelming majority of them will vote for Romney in the general, though not with overwhelming enthusiasm.
Remember FR does not equal conservatives does not equal the Republican Party; FR is a minority of a minority.
2) Romney will probably do better with independents than McCain did.
3) How are two candidates who did much WORSE than 40% in many primaries better general election candidates?
I’ll vote for him in the CA primary, even if he’s out by then. If he’s not on the ballot, I’ll write him in.
Newt would be my first choice but he is done and needs to support Rick if we have any chance of stopping the establishment choice.
Pray for America
Puff Puff, Pass
A brokered convention isnt going to pick the 3rd place finisher in delegates as the nominee.
From my perspective, Santorum is just as out of it as Gingrich is as far as beating Romney 1 on 1. Together though they still have a chance to keep Romney from getting to the number of delegates needed before the convention. That really is our only realistic chance, a dice roll at the convention. I also think that the only way Romney could beat Obama is if he chooses a conservative VP that is more popular than he is and brings excitement to the base. It has to be someone that can step right in and lead in case Romney gets his magic underwear all in a knot and flames out. I voted for Newt and I will be with him and for him until a nominee is confirmed, and then I will still be for him. Romney is the used car salesman version of Obama and I will hurl for days if he is the nominee. Santorum is a good man, but I don’t think he is ready for prime time any more than Herman Cain was. He is simply unseasoned and the news media and democrats would eat his lunch if he were the nominee. Maybe Santorum has a chance in 2016. Newt is the only one who can handle the media effectively and call them out and make them look like the fools that they are. He is also the only one who can make Obama look like the fool that he is.
Someone above used a Baghdad Bob parallel regarding this comment by Newt Gingrich.
If Newt is speaking about the Republican Party nomination, then Baghdad Bob is an apt parallel.
I would support Newt in a 3rd party run over Romney/Obama any day of the week.
He’d have to come up with a mountain of cash, though, to run a successful campaign. Even if a losing effort, it could still be a victory if someone seriously set about starting a conservative party.
Oh, my bad.. Giuliani is a Democrat, liberal, socialist, perhaps Marxist.. I forgot. You missed my point which was the media’s suppression of candidates they don’t approve of. My spidey-sense tells me you’re another FReeper who’ll refuse to vote for Romney in November, resulting in the re-election of 0bama! I don’t understand why conservatives would rather lament Gingrich or Santorum’s fall than vote for Romney in November. It’s time to circle the wagons, folks! Unfortunately we won’t get Newt or Santorum but at least we can trade the current WH occupant in for AN AMERICAN in November! Fire away, FReepers!
I don’t trust the polls, but at least they are some measure. Your belief that Newt is electable and Santorum is not is based on nothing more than a wish. Nothing in the primary has shown that Newt could win an election. He can’t beat two unelectable candidates. In some states, he can’t even beat Ron Paul.
Telling people to drop Santorum because he “can’t win”, with no evidence, so we should instead support Gingrich, who has proven he can’t win primaries, and for whom there has never been any evidence he could beat Obama, is an unsupportable argument.
Polls aren’t facts, but the facts aren’t good for Gingrich either. Of course, the fact is that Romney is going to win the nomination, and either Romney or Obama will be President next January. But I’ll suspend disbelief in a Santorum win until it is impossible, before I give into the reality. That point long passed for Gingrich (who is polling 3rd in North Carolina, and not polling first in any state remaining (he is 3rd in Texas as well).
There are very few active public figures that speak with the intelligence that I’d expect from a leader of American Liberty. Newt is one of them. And regardless of his Mitt endorsement, Paul Ryan isn’t far behind.
I’m not knocking any other individual’s intelligence. There’s simply no comparison in the delivery, and depth of understanding. The hype is wasted on me.
Exactly how does he think he will win? Is he going to sweep all remaining primaries with over 50% in all of them?
All can see you make your decisions based on polling data, which is the same as saying you make your decisions based on what other people think. Or what you think they think.
That is your prerogative. It may even help ease the pain as you witness the country march along the pathway of historic inevitability.
what, are you sayin the couch dance with nan was a miscalculation that hit the wallet and hurt the rep of ole greengrinch ??? that the best marketing for a ‘new’ career in DC is to run for POTUS and accumulate ‘new’ friends ???
You are partially correct. I am one who believes that trading Obama for Romney is not trading up, even if he is an American.
I make decisions based on an evaluation of all the information; if I based my decision on polls, I would have supported GIngrich when all the Gingrich folks said he was the clear candidate because he was polling so well.
As I said, people love polls when they say what they like, and then argue against them when they reflect an inconvenient truth.
Polls can be manipulated, so they aren’t the only fact you can use to make a decision, but they are not as wrong as people like to claim when they are bad for their candidate. People who rail at polls usually don’t have any good arguments to make.
But in the matter of which conservative to support, the right thing for everybody to do was to pay attention to what other people thought. The goal was to find a sufficiently conservative candidate who could get broad enough support to beat Romney. “broad enough support” means that we cared what everybody thought. So long as 20% supported each of 5 candidates, we weren’t going to beat ROmney.
I would have preferred Rick Perry to be the last man standing against Romney. I Think if Rick PErry had been in Santorum’s place in february, that Perry would actually be beating Romney now. But that would only happen if other people supported him, and that was entirely dependent on what “other people think”.
But I was happy enough with Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich that, if enough people had thought they were good enough, I would have supported them in order to beat Romney. So yes, I was looking at what other people thought. Unfortunately, in Florida “other people” thought they didn’t like GIngrich, and he failed. And then in February a lot of people thought not to vote for Gingrich.
And people started voting for Santorum — so because of “what people think”, Santorum had a shot, but then people started ‘thinking’ that he didn’t, and they voted how they thought, and now we are stuck with Romney.
Elections are all about what “other people think”. If we had all been willing to make our decisions based in part on what other people thought, we might have ended up with a good conservative candidate.
I read your post thoroughly. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
“Why not work for good local candidates, the Senate, the House?”
Of course. Our Senator Murry and Can’twell are not up this time. We do have a leftist idiot (no kidding) running against a pretty good guy for Governor.
What I meant is that I will find it very hard to be at all excited or willing to work for the Romney.
Maybe I should take your previous point to heart, and completely stop caring at all what a specific other person thinks.
Does that make things clearer to you? I thought the purpose of posting was because you think that others might actually care what you think, and might actually base their actions on the opinions you express. What would the point be if nobody was supposed to care what other people thought, or to base their actions on what other people thought?
” “As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”—H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
It only took 90 years....winner Mencken....TKO
There will be no brokered convention now. Romney's win last Tuesday pretty much guaranteed that. Also, the heavy hitter Conservative endorsements for Romney, will also carry the momentum all the way through April. Romney will likely win PA also. Santorum will have to drop out by then.
Newt's campaign money is in debt and his biggest contributor will pull the plug and go to Romney. Santorum’s money is also drying up very fast and he will be done well before the May Primaries where money will be everything.
It is what it is. It's time to start planning on how to beat Obama with what we have.
I want what you're smoking. Is that hopium?
Are we completely sure that Newt is in third? Paul’s entire strategy is to collect stray delegates like deposit bottles. He may come to Tampa with more strength than Newt.
At best, Newt is the bronze medal winner who has enemies in the establishment and no support among women. Does he really think he is going to get the Convention to rally around him through some kind of world-changing speech?
If there is a brokered convention (which there isn’t going to be), it’s going to end up being Mitt or some complete wild card who everyone can agree on. And that person is more likely to be a Pawlenty or Jeb Bush than a Palin, I fear.
“What I meant is that I will find it very hard to be at all excited or willing to work for the Romney.”
I am just trying to rally the troops, here, for those of us who are feeling lethargic about Romney, I’d hope they’ll redirect their energies towards good, more local candidates rather than sit the whole election out.
That is very true. For the record, Im not really a fan of any of them, but I probably like Paul the most. But the idea that someone could lose badly in the first delegate count, and then somehow win when the delegates are released was always just a fantasy.
I think Mitt is going to win it, regardless of brokered convention or not. Jeb came out and supported him, so it would be hard for him to seriously challenge Mitt at the nomination. Pawlenty ducked out early and endorsed Mitt. Daniels has said multiple times he doesnt want it, as has Christie. I cant see the convention bringing Palin or DeMint in. And I dont think many delegate types like Santorum on a personal level. I just dont see a scenario where it isnt Mitt. The problem is just saying that around some people makes them think you are a Romney fan.
The media has learned not to show Gingrich on TV because every time they do his popularity goes up
Can you imagine Romney trying to debate Obama?
Mitt: “Heh heh I betcha $10,000 the economy is not better now. Heh heh com’on wanna bet?”
Against Gingrich it would be a blood bath
Heck with Newt, I have a better chance of winning.
Newt is a true nut. Maybe he could come up with how that is going to happen in 10,0000 words.
Do you mean Rudy? A conservative? ROTFLMAO!!!
If they ignored him it was because he could not get conservatives to vote for him.
He did some okay things in NYC, but he was to liberal for the voters in the GOP.
Delaware State Representative Jack Peterman Endorses Newt Gingrich for President
Magnolia, DE - At a rally this afternoon in Magnolia, Delaware, State Representative Jack Peterman announced his endorsement of Newt Gingrich for president.
As a retired farmer and former Kent County Levy Court Commissioner and President, Peterman represents Delawares 33rd District in Milford. He sits on several House Committees, including Agriculture; Natural Resources; Economic Development, Banking, Insurance and Commerce; Housing and Community Affairs; Revenue and Finance; and Veterans Affairs.
“Newt Gingrich is the leader we need to return conservative principles to American government, said Peterman. He has proven throughout his career that he is dedicated to the American values of small government, individual liberty and a free market economy. I am proud to support Newt Gingrich for president, and encourage my fellow citizens in Delaware to do the same.”
Jack Peterman is a man of great faith and moral conviction, said Newt Gingrich. Jack is a true leader in his community and in the state of Delaware. It is an honor to have his endorsement.
Representative Peterman will campaign with Newt Gingrich in the state, leading up to Delawares primary election on April 24th.
another endorsement...Newt will take it!
Nothing of what you say is unclear. I care what specific other persons, such as CharlesWayneCT thinks, (even if you are an unknown entity in cyberspace,) and I do appreciate your thoughtful posts. No, I just do not understand caring what an amorphous thing like a poll tells you to think.
Perhaps my decision-making process seems wrong-headed to you - all I can say is my decisions are based on principles, and the only way I can live with myself is to never violate my code - no matter what the polls say the majority is thinking at any particular time.
As a Newt supporter, how did you feel when FR was polled and you found that 60% of freepers who responded supported Newt?
Rick Santorum met with several conservative leaders at home in Virginia, sources close to the Santorum campaign confirms to NBC News.
One of the major goals — how to get Newt Gingrich out of the race and get his delegates to line up behind Santorum instead.
Newt said he is NOT getting out but if Santorum wants to drop out that is up to him.
It appears as a ton of delusion rubbed off on Santorum when he endorsed Romney for president and also his endorsement for Spector speaks volumes. Santorum knew about Romney care...says volumes on RS.
Just 3 years ago..Santorum endorsed Romney for president..today he is attacking him. I think RS is the nut
“Im with Newt all of the way. I would rather stand with my convictions vs. making excuses to accept Romney (who is a fraud)”
I’m in til Newt says otherwise as well......Pa is coming up now and Santorum’s taking time off and meeting with “others”
will he stay in the race is the question because he must take Pa....and some polls are saying Romney’s ahead.
So if Rick stands down because he doesn’t want two losses from his home state...which would be really bad and hurt his career path....and I’m not so sure he won’t protect that first and foremost....then what....could Newt again rise with the path clear to do so?
On to convention!!!!!!
Third is a great place to be at this juncture...and as for Gingrich should cede Pennsylvania to Santorum...Santorum is weighing PA. very careful during his time off...several polls have Romney in the lead and if this doesn't look good for Santorum to take his home state he may very well throw in the towel rather than lose a second time in Pa.....which will massively hurt his political career....and that he will protect at all costs.
Should Santorum stand down....and at this point nobody can call that....then that changes the equation as Newt could easily step up once again.
Santorum's been running a two-man race for weeks and weeks now and still he hasn't taken the lead over Romney....Newt could very well change the trajectory.
Will be interesting to see how Santorum decides over these next four days and what his advisers and meetings with significant others will result in. But PA. is not going to be a slam dunk for Rick....people here do not easily forget who they know as the real Rick.
Furthermore the ONLY reason Newt is not on top is because the media has shut him out entirely....but they will not be able to do so if this goes to Convention.
I say let's wait and see....there's been so many twists and turns in this race that anything can still happen....June is not yet here and there's still time....
And that was the Obama bait, via the media, and social conservatives fell for it hook, line and sinker, in order to take out Newt...... It had nothing to do with what "people thought"..it had to do with an ad campaign from Romney, a media block out of Newt, and the bait Santorum to steer it all away from Newt...the only man Obama didn't want to go up against at any cost.
The problem is Republicans STILL can't see the game and the plays...so they take any thing slung at them...and unfortunately even Rick thought himself to be well received when in fact the media is who lifted him up and on the stage....and they readily admit that Santorum would never have risen without them...and he wouldn't have.
The same reasons he wasn't winning before the media pushing him on stage, are the same reasons he will continue to loose support and not win this primary over Romney.
This game is not over yet Katie....hang tight...things are going to shift down the road here in ways I don’t think most are anticipating......am hoping Santorum will drop out because he’s not looking like a slam dunk in his home state.
If he does the game changes.
Thanks for the ping.
Newt and Ron Paul can’t trust Rickster with their delegates if they were to concede!
Rick is one of those too-cool-for-school types, in it for himself, blows past advice, and being a Republican just happens to be where the chips fell at the time, reportedly, or he could have made a fine democrat.
He needs a job. A real one.
When Santorum drops out, the race is over.
It would be pretty delusional to think that, if Santorum can’t win his home state, that some how Gingrich (currently polling in single digits) would actually beat Romney in Pa. if Santorum dropped out.
You really need to not put so much weight on polls...which you seem to mention frequently. But do recall how low Rick was trending before Iowa....until the media ran people needed to give him a "second look".
I don't underestimate the power of the media to influence or drive this primary ....if Santorum was to drop out before Pa. which he likely won't, then I never underestimate the hand Newt might play....ever.
However Romney's apparently leading in PA currently....according to polls...or which ever one might make him look better or worse you're looking at. Polls are like looking into an 8 ball for the future. Win or lose it's still quesswork.
--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
Yeah he had his faults.....kind of a strange dude, but when he scored, he scored : )
There is a simple computer algebra equation:
R(esult)=Four more years of Obama
and kiss America goodbye. Here’s hoping and praying Newt does well in Texas! BTW..did you know that Romney has 35 super delegates; Newt has 4; Santorum 2 and Paul has 1.