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Problems With the Truth: Confessions of a 22-Year Rick Santorum Observer
Forbes ^ | April 4, 2012 | Jerry Bowyer

Posted on 04/05/2012 8:17:49 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve known Rick Santorum for 22 years, having first met him in 1990 before he’d won his first campaign for Congress. I interviewed him on WORD-FM, an evangelical Christian radio station where I was a frequent guest host (and eventually a full-time host) early in his campaign.

If I was not the first media personality to interview Rick, I was one of the first. I had Rick as a guest at the request of my friend, Mark Rogers, who was running Rick’s campaign. Over the years I interviewed Rick at least a dozen times and debated him several times as well. I personally knew most of his staff, almost hired one member of his staff as the research director of a think tank I ran, and eventually did hire another of his staff members as my administrative assistant.

As I mentioned before, I was friends with the man who ran his first campaign and who ended up being Rick’s chief of staff when Rick was in Congress. I was best man at the marriage of a Santorum staff member and one of my closest friends. This couple may well be my wife’s and my closest friends. I’ve had dealings on more than one occasion with a media/public relations firm run by John Brabender, who has done most of Rick’s media campaign work.

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To: CharlesWayneCT

Thank you, CharlesWayneCT.


51 posted on 04/05/2012 12:32:19 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I myself used to say things and make promises that I did not keep. I would certainly not hold it against those people I said these things to, if they regarded me as a liar.

If Rick Santorum is not actually a out-and-out liar, a case could be made from this article that he cannot be trusted to do what he says he is going to do. He might have meant something at the time he said it, but so did I, when I made those promises and then did not keep them.


52 posted on 04/05/2012 12:58:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: BrewingFrog
It also helps that the MSM went total blackout on Newt after Florida, instead only reporting on the “two front runners” in Mittens and Little Saint Ricky. Newt was too effective against them, so they shut him up.

That's exactly what happened. He lost in Florida...because Romney had been campaigning here for the last several years and because Romney had bought Rubio, having identified him as a rising star and given him a donation when he ran for office (not to mention trading on Rubio's Mormon past). Probably the most damaging thing was that a large number of Florida voters had already voted by the time the campaign rolled to Florida. I heard some of them say they regretted voting for Romney, but by then it was too late.

So this gave the press an excuse to dump Gingrich, because he was clearly the only serious threat to Obama's world view. Both Romney and St Rick are fine with it...the only thing they want is to be the ones in charge.

53 posted on 04/05/2012 1:05:36 PM PDT by livius
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I sure wish Mr. Bowyer would have come forward long enough ago that the Santorum votes could have gone to Newt.
54 posted on 04/05/2012 1:10:23 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: liberalh8ter

To the degree the Santorum votes came from Newt, they were not going back, they had already abandoned Newt and were looking for another choice.

If Santorum was going to be taken down, I wish it would have happened before Iowa.


55 posted on 04/05/2012 1:40:20 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I disagree. As the race went on and Newt started to slip, people shifted support. Had Mr. Sweater Vest’s proclivity to lie and the damning information about his fondness for Keynesian economics come to light from the start, those who weren’t necessarily in Newt’s corner but definitely not in Mitt’s would have turned more strongly to Newt.


56 posted on 04/05/2012 2:06:13 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: liberalh8ter

I never supported Sanatarium and never will. It is my desire that he be expelled from the Republican Party and banned from K street when he loses. He needs to get himself a few snakes and a revival tent and hit the “Born Again” circuit talking in tongues, healing paralized folks and bilking the innocent of their SSI payments. While I realize he is on a first name basis with all the good-uns in Deliverance Country he has done a bang up job on fleecing a lot of innocent folks that should have known better than to listen to a slick tongue loser of historic numbers as an incumbent.


57 posted on 04/05/2012 6:27:26 PM PDT by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: BTCM

I’ve been a Newt supporter since Palin announced she wouldn’t run. It chaps my butt that this guy just came forward, now.


58 posted on 04/05/2012 6:37:29 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So Saint Rick joins PA native Joe Biden and Washington, D.C. native Al Gore in giving little to church and charity. Nothing surprises us any more. Seems like there is another one in that camp too, but I forget for the moment.


59 posted on 04/05/2012 9:46:15 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people have again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: darrellmaurina

Thoughtful post.

What upset me the most about the article was the giving . Or the lack of giving. I thought our religions compel us to give. Whether we feel like it or not. When times are bad as well as good. Also, it’s chintzy to over claim your old crap that you donate to goodwill. Sheesh. If all that is true, I lose respect for him.

Unless he comes forward with charitable giving he did in private and did. Or declare.

I do not mind the author defending his friend, but I am not sure all of those things are full on lies. I’m just really disappointed by the lack of giving.


60 posted on 04/05/2012 11:31:36 PM PDT by Yaelle (Let's fight Romney with every primary. Why make it easy for him? Go Rick!)
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To: Yaelle
Thank you, Yaelle.

FWIW, we agree on the charitable contribution issue being a concern. Is it enough to keep me from voting for him, or backing him for president? Not with the seriousness of the problems with Mitt Romney or Barack Obama.

For whatever it's worth, I do believe it is important when working with conservative Roman Catholics to recognize that their faith leads them to place an emphasis in places where I would not do so. Tithing is emphasized much more in evangelical circles than the Roman Catholic Church... not saying priests and bishops don't encourage charitable giving, just saying the emphasis is not there in the same way that would be found in many evangelical churches.

An additional factor — one probably not present in Santorum’s case — is that Scripture has some pretty strong words to say about publicly sounding trumpets to announce charitable giving. We do not necessarily know the full amount of a candidate's charitable giving and there are good reasons for that.

Matt 6:2-4: “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”

61 posted on 04/06/2012 5:11:04 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I am constantly amused by all the die hard Santorum and Gingrich supporters. Face reality folks; your guy lost. This primary is about the evil of three lessers and the general will be about the evil of two lessers. I don’t know who the next Reagan is- Rubio? DeMint? Ryan?. I do know, however, that he or she didn’t run this time. I will vote for the GOP nominee, whoever that is, not because I am a huge fan but because he will be infinitely better than Obama. I am realistic enough to realize that Romney will be that nominee, and I am willing to support him and try to get him elected. To me not supporting Romney at this point is supporting Obama, and no way in hell am I doing that. I will make my displeasure known to the Republican party, and continue to support Tea Party types at the local and State levels. I will not, however, sit this election out just because I am disappointed and pissed.


62 posted on 04/06/2012 5:32:05 AM PDT by csmusaret (I have kleptomania, but when it gets too bad I take something.)
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To: darrellmaurina

Exactly: it might be unpleasant if that were the full donation he gave to charity, but still not enough to prefer Romney.

And I agree, there is a possibility that he gave privately or anonymously and chose to not report it to the IRS.

I’d like to hear him rebut this article.


63 posted on 04/06/2012 9:23:57 AM PDT by Yaelle (Let's fight Romney with every primary. Why make it easy for him? Go Rick!)
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To: Yaelle; CharlesWayneCT
Hi, Yaelle... you may want to read CharlesWayneCT's post higher in this thread. It may be the closest thing we'll get to a direct rebuttal of the article in Forbes.

One of the problems faced by the Santorum campaign is they simply don't have the staff to do the research necessary to deal with any but the most dangerous attacks on his campaign. Money counts, and there's a limit to how much volunteers can do.

This article in Forbes is serious. My guess is we'll see a letter to the editor of Forbes or an op-ed piece by a Santorum supporter who knows the situation personally. However, those things take time.

And yes, I do realize there are paid staffers for candidates who post on Free Republic, and other people who don't post are paid staff members whose job is to produce a digest of posts here, just like national political figures have always had staff members to produce clip files of the daily newspaper reports.

64 posted on 04/06/2012 10:27:02 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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