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Half a million Mac computers 'infected with malware'
BBC ^ | April 2012 Last updated at 08:54 ET

Posted on 04/05/2012 8:45:23 AM PDT by null and void

An investigation by Dr Web suggests that about 600,000 Macs have the malware - potentially allowing them to be hijacked and used as a "botnet".

It says that more than half that number are in the US.

Flashback was first detected last September when anti-virus researchers flagged software masquerading itself as a Flash Player update. Once downloaded it deactivated some of the computer's security software.

Remote control

"By introducing the code criminals are potentially able to control the machine," the firm's chief executive Boris Sharov told the BBC.

"We stress the word potential as we have never seen any malicious activity since we hijacked the botnet to take it out of criminals' hands. However, we know people create viruses to get money.

"The largest amounts of bots - based on the IP addresses we identified - are in the US, Canada, UK and Australia, so it appears to have targeted English-speaking people."

Dr Web also notes that 274 of the infected computers it detected appeared to be located in Cupertino, California - home to Apple's headquarters.

Update wait

Apple released its own "security update" on Wednesday - more than eight weeks later. It can be triggered by clicking on the software update icon in the computer's system preferences panel.

The security firm F-Secure has also posted detailed instructions about how to confirm if a machine is infected and how to remove the Trojan.

Although Apple's system software limits the actions its computers can take without requesting their users' permission, some security analysts suggest this latest incident highlights the fact that the machines are not invulnerable.

"People used to say that Apple computers, unlike Windows PCs, can't ever be infected - but it's a myth," said Timur Tsoriev, an analyst at Kaspersky Lab.

Apple could not provide a statement at this time.

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PS:

Use ClamXav antivir.

No detections


51 posted on 04/05/2012 4:46:04 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: null and void

>>>I suspect my own iMac was infected.

Clean as a whistle. Updated the Mac Java... and use Sophos for Mac. No issues here.


52 posted on 04/05/2012 5:14:41 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: for-q-clinton; Swordmaker

>>>Not Possible! Swordmaker and the macbots have told me that only windows gets stuff like this.

Not exactly Troll...

It has been always said here, by Swordmaer, and plenty of other Mac users that people need to be responsible, and make sure they are keeping their OS updated with the latest updates from Apple, and making sure they only supply admin passwords when prompted from TRUSTED sources, and use one of any number of protective countermeasure applications.

Mac is no different from Windows. A machine operated by an idiot who is completely lax or ignorant to protecting the machine is going to get infected by something detrimental to it sooner or later.

Now 4Q, quit being such a troll, and help people to learn, and understand that no matter what OS they use, they need to protect their systems from external threats rather than be the ass that you regularly are on these types of threads.


53 posted on 04/05/2012 5:27:38 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: for-q-clinton; null and void; Swordmaker
> I wonder who was right?

Where have you been? Under a rock? This is old news.

As usual, you're behind the times. There have been a handful of malwares for OS-X for quite a while now. Mostly Trojans that the user has to approve installing, but a few nastier ones that install themselves. Only the silliest of people are surprised at this.

You're also, alas, being a bore -- calling people "macbots" is not helpful.

If you wish to feel superior, count how many successful malwares have been released for Windows vs. OS-X. Thousands of times as many!

Isn't that a wonderful advantage? Oh, wait.... :)

54 posted on 04/05/2012 6:21:22 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

My point all along was that once Macs got enough users they would be attacked. Looks like I was right and this is my why of pointing out to others don’t fall for the lies of zealots. Btw...look at drudge this made the lead story.


55 posted on 04/05/2012 6:24:47 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Keith in Iowa; for-q-clinton; Swordmaker
> Now 4Q, quit being such a troll, and help people to learn, and understand that no matter what OS they use, they need to protect their systems from external threats rather than be the ass that you regularly are on these types of threads.

Alas, poor 4Q, he can't help it. It's a disorder, rather like Tourette's:

Tourette's was once considered a rare and bizarre syndrome, most often associated with the exclamation of obscene words or socially inappropriate and derogatory remarks (coprolalia)... (Wikipedia)
Trolls like 4Q have no interest in helping anyone. They would be thrilled if suddenly all of Apple's customers developed leprosy. They're like the jerk who, seeing someone who has lost their balance, walks over to them and trips them so that they fall over completely.

Other than that, 4Q's just a boring ol' troll, and his attempts to bait reasonable people can be ignored. But he's occasionally fun to bait back. :)

56 posted on 04/05/2012 6:29:20 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

This is my way of helping. For years people have listened to the lies of macbots and being over the top helps drive home the point to everyone that isn’t a zealot. Many have been brainwashed and lied to so it’s not going to be easy reprogramming them. I’m doing my part though. Also this is now the lead drudge story...that will help too. If we all do our part we can break through the fud apple has spread for years about other products.


57 posted on 04/05/2012 6:29:20 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: dayglored

If you can’t win the argument...attack the person. A play out of the Clinton playbook.

Sorry you’re so hurt over this...something all real IT pros knew has happened and would continue to happen as Macs market share increased.


58 posted on 04/05/2012 6:33:27 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
Well I still think it's sensationalism. I've been using Apple products for a while now and I have never had any kind of issue whatsoever - except for the time when I dropped one of my iPods into a puddle in the street. Even then, it worked just fine after I let it dry out for a day or two.

The MacBook Pro is probably the most perfect laptop computer ever manufactured. Absolute perfection in every way with a stunning display screen. If I ever had a virus, I never knew about it.

Now I still use the Microsoft Windows on other computers but I do have some issues with those - even though in general, they tend to get the job done. Computers work a lot better these days.

59 posted on 04/05/2012 6:34:25 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 35 days away from outliving Phil Hartman)
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To: for-q-clinton
Well I still think it's sensationalism. I've been using Apple products for a while now and I have never had any kind of issue whatsoever - except for the time when I dropped one of my iPods into a puddle in the street. Even then, it worked just fine after I let it dry out for a day or two.

The MacBook Pro is probably the most perfect laptop computer ever manufactured. Absolute perfection in every way with a stunning display screen. If I ever had a virus, I never knew about it.

Now I still use the Microsoft Windows on other computers but I do have some issues with those - even though in general, they tend to get the job done. Computers work a lot better these days.

60 posted on 04/05/2012 6:34:25 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 35 days away from outliving Phil Hartman)
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To: for-q-clinton
> My point all along was that once Macs got enough users they would be attacked. Looks like I was right and this is my why of pointing out to others don’t fall for the lies of zealots.

The zealots of all stripes will always be lying. Just ignore them. As a system administrator with many ties to Windows and MSDN, I get all manner of stuff from Microsoft that is just outright bullsh*t, and I ignore it. Surely you can do the same for stuff from Apple.

Pointing out that as the number of Macs grows the number of OS-X attacks will increase is simplistic and obvious.

Pointing out that as the security of Windows increases the number of Windows attacks will decrease is likewise simplistic and obvious.

Your alleged point, Sir, is lost in your obvious glee at the misfortune of Apple customers who were struck by malware.

THAT is what makes you an ass.

61 posted on 04/05/2012 6:36:34 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Btw I think you missed the part that says this installs withOUT admin password. So even responsible users can and have gotten this malware.

Microsoft used to blame the users too.


62 posted on 04/05/2012 6:37:16 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
See my post #61 above. You're the one who started calling names.

I'm not the least bit hurt. I have no dog in this fight. I'm just calling you on your unseemly glee at the misfortune of others.

63 posted on 04/05/2012 6:38:49 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

While simplistic and obvious there have been many on FR that said that wasn’t true. In fact it resulted in jimrob issuing threats to ban people as it was quit disruptive to the site.

Now that it’s obvious to even the zealots they want to act like they never said that. We all know they did...heck look at this thread there are still many that don’t understand that this installs even without admin password. Which swordmaker promised never could happen. So you are saying he’s a zealot that should be ignored?


64 posted on 04/05/2012 6:42:59 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: dayglored

While simplistic and obvious there have been many on FR that said that wasn’t true. In fact it resulted in jimrob issuing threats to ban people as it was quit disruptive to the site.

Now that it’s obvious to even the zealots they want to act like they never said that. We all know they did...heck look at this thread there are still many that don’t understand that this installs even without admin password. Which swordmaker promised never could happen. So you are saying he’s a zealot that should be ignored?


65 posted on 04/05/2012 6:45:24 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
Here's a thought for you.

Maybe all this time, you have been right -- OS-X isn't really any more secure than Windows.

So what explains the fact that Macs have less than one percent as many malwares per capita as Windows? There are a HUGE number of Macs out there now. What is it -- 60 million? 75 million? 100 million? I've lost count.... Anyway, how come they've been relatively safe?

Maybe the thing that "protected" Mac users from the nasty malware that lurks on porn sites was the fact that Mac users didn't surf porn sites and click on all the pretty buttons, nearly so much as the Windows users.

So maybe it's really about morals. Can you believe that? If you're right, and OS-X isn't any more robust than Windows, then it must be the users!!

I can see it now... "For-Q-Clinton says: Mac users are more moral than Windows users!"

66 posted on 04/05/2012 6:50:28 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: SamAdams76

I use Linux on my desktop, but have a MacBook Air for taking with me places. It’s not perfect, but it’s pretty well thought-out, and I’m pretty happy with it. The case/keyboard/trackpad/etc., is unquestionably superior.


67 posted on 04/05/2012 6:53:02 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: for-q-clinton
> this installs even without admin password. Which swordmaker promised never could happen. So you are saying he’s a zealot that should be ignored?

See, 4Q, this is where you're being nothing but a troll. Swordmake NEVER SAID THAT.

What he said (in different phrasings, so I'm going to paraphrase): "The design of OS-X makes it very robust against attacks. There have been a few successful attacks. You should stay patched up-to-date."

I challenge you to point out the FR thread and particular comment # in which Swordmaker "promised [it] never could happen".

Otherwise you're just a damned liar.

68 posted on 04/05/2012 6:54:44 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: null and void
MAC ATTACK!

Half a million APPLE computers hit with 'Flashback Trojan'...

Drudge, Now.

69 posted on 04/05/2012 6:58:12 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse)
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To: dayglored

I have given links several times in the past and you know it. Why you keep ignoring them is beyond me but if you want them search FR they are there. I believe one of the threads had bunny slippers posting in it...that may help you fund one if the many threads.


70 posted on 04/05/2012 7:03:40 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: dayglored

Wow you are posting the very thing you say macbots don’t post. What version of windows are you comparing against? Make it a fair fight. I have gotten 0 viruses on windows. In fact my whole family has 0 virsus malware Trojans etc... What’s your point?

My point is simple people claim OSX is more se ure than windows 7 and its not. OSX actually is the first to fall in hacking competitions year after year. Not sure about this years though I need to check when it is.


71 posted on 04/05/2012 7:09:28 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton; Swordmaker
> I have given links several times in the past and you know it. Why you keep ignoring them is beyond me but if you want them search FR they are there. I believe one of the threads had bunny slippers posting in it...that may help you fund one if the many threads.

You're a riot. That's the same dodgy non-defense you have given in the past when challenged.

So you can't come up with one and want ME to do a search? Thanks for the laugh.

For the record, I consider Swordmaker a strong pro-Apple, pro-Mac partisan. But a "zealot", no, because he doesn't come out with stuff that's obviously false, which some pro-Apple/pro-Mac FR posters have done. Perhaps you're thinking of them with your statement about a "promise that it can never happen". And in those cases where it later turns out something was over-stated or mis-stated, Swordmaker has been more than willing to correct himself or accept correction, which zealots do not do.

You, on the other hand, are just brimming full of false criticisms and outright lies about Apple, Macs, Apple customers, OS-X, etc. And you refuse to back down when you're shown that you're obviously mistaken. That's what makes you the zealot, Mr. For-Q-Troll.

Which is why, in general, I ignore you on the tech threads. But tonight I'm feeling playful.... :)

72 posted on 04/05/2012 7:14:04 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

You mean you had to help out tonight cuz this is a big black eye on OSX and the fanboys. Which you are clearly one.


73 posted on 04/05/2012 7:18:23 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
> Wow you are posting the very thing you say macbots don’t post. What version of windows are you comparing against? Make it a fair fight. I have gotten 0 viruses on windows. In fact my whole family has 0 virsus malware Trojans etc... What’s your point?

I like Win7. I've gotten zero malware on my four Win7 installations. It's about as secure as OS-X became a few years ago. They're about equal these days, in my opinion.

However, a cubic ton of Windows users are STILL using XP and many (most?) are STILL not patching in a timely fashion. You cannot avoid dealing with the ACTUAL installed base of Windows users by saying that the latest version is secure therefore the rest don't count.

> My point is simple people claim OSX is more se ure than windows 7 and its not.

Actually, they're about equal these days.

> OSX actually is the first to fall in hacking competitions year after year. Not sure about this years though I need to check when it is.

You know as well as I do that those competitions have NOTHING to do with evaluations of robustness, and are merely set up by the trade magazines for the sake of putting "Apple", "Mac", and "Security flaw" in the same headline. They are set up in advance, scripts are written and tested in advance, and everybody knows that the prize goes to the person who hacks the Mac.

Don't be such a credulous fool. it's unbecoming an FR member.

74 posted on 04/05/2012 7:20:03 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: for-q-clinton
> the fanboys. Which you are clearly one.

*SIGH* how quickly they forget.

I'm a Unix System Admin. I prefer NetBSD for my systems. After that, Linux for servers, and either OS-X or Win7 for interactive/GUI stuff. I like Apple's hardware as a platform, and run OS-X, Windows, Linux, NetBSD, and a few lesser OSes on the Mac hardware using VMware Fusion.

Don't be a fool.

75 posted on 04/05/2012 7:23:40 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: for-q-clinton

I tire of this exchange. Since you seem to have declined to toss anything back my way, I’ll bid you adieu and see ya on another thread... cheers!


76 posted on 04/05/2012 7:40:38 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

So windows XP counts but previous versions of mac oses don’t. I guess if they made an OS people loved they’d have that issue to deal with. Luckily people love windows more. What other company supports their OS for more than a decade?


77 posted on 04/05/2012 7:41:10 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

from the post to which I’m replying to the bottom of the thread so far is you being mostly an arrogant jerk. Do you come by this naturally, or do you work at it?


78 posted on 04/05/2012 7:47:12 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: for-q-clinton
> So windows XP counts but previous versions of mac oses don’t. I guess if they made an OS people loved they’d have that issue to deal with. Luckily people love windows more.

Now, THAT's funny. Thanks, it was worth checking back.

> What other company supports their OS for more than a decade?

What other company HAS TO, because try as they might, they can't entice people away from the version that "worked well enough" , with subsequent versions that just plain suck?

I truly think anyone who sticks with XP -- other than because their application won't run on Win7 -- is nuts. But most of corporate America is unable to upgrade to Win7 yet.

BTW, you must be forgetting that Microsoft TRIED TO DROP SUPPORT for XP over and over for the past 5 years, unsuccessfully because their customers demanded it. It wasn't because Steve Ballmer is an altruist. Honest.

79 posted on 04/05/2012 7:47:21 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Keith in Iowa; for-q-clinton
> from the post to which I’m replying to the bottom of the thread so far is you being mostly an arrogant jerk. Do you come by this naturally, or do you work at it?

He works at it. HARD. You see the places where the sweat stained the webpage? That was him.

Credit where credit is due. :)

80 posted on 04/05/2012 7:49:40 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

years of jack ass macbots saying install osx to fix user induced malware problems has done this too me. Thank them for their fine work.


81 posted on 04/05/2012 8:34:30 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Strongly recommend using a Standard Account for day to day stuff & web surfing. They are very easy to set up. The only aggravation is in doing upgrades since you have to remember the Admin name & PW.

It may not have stopped the infection if the trojan was good enough to trick you into using the admin name & PW but it does provide another level of security.

Regarding browsers, I'm not a Safari fan.

I've been using something called Rock Melt for about a month & I'm very happy with it so far.

Firefox had been the one I was using but I found it to be getting slow.

82 posted on 04/05/2012 8:39:25 PM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: for-q-clinton; dayglored; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; ...
For 13 years, OSX has resisted invasion of Malware (I maintain it still is) and for 13 years, Chicken Little FUD spreaders like for-q-clinton have been screaming "the sky is falling! the sky is falling! Macs will get viruses just like Windows!" Now, an obscure anti-virus peddler in Russia claims they have determined that a new variant of an already existing KNOWN Trojan, one that's signature is already existing in Apple's definition file to be recognized, is claimed to have successfully invaded 600,000 OSX Macs through an OPTIONALLY installable Java component that has not been even included with the OSX distribution by default for two years. . . And one that is only found on a few obscure websites, according to the site claiming the ridiculous number of infected Macs!—PING!

So, for THIRTEEN years, users of OSX SERVER and for ELEVEN YEARS Users of OSX client have enjoyed malware free surfing, creativity, game playing, and generally worry free computing.

But trolls like for-q-Clinton and his ilk still call us Macbots, zealots, and liars for extolling that experience to people who have used the alternative Microsoft Windows platform that chalked up over THREE MILLION discreet malware exploitation applications!

During that same time, our platform of choice, the Apple Mac OSX, garnered a mere seven failed proof-of-concept virus candidates, and 22 known Trojan horse applications, a whole two of which that will marginally install with only minimal user assistance!

And for-q-Clinton claims it is WE who need to be educated about choices, and we who need HIS help!

Frankly, from our perspective, HE is the one who has made abysmally bad security and computing choices for the past thirteen years!


Apple Security Ping!

Please, No Flame Wars
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

83 posted on 04/05/2012 11:45:47 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: SamAdams76
Well I still think it's sensationalism. I've been using Apple products for a while now and I have never had any kind of issue whatsoever - except for the time when I dropped one of my iPods into a puddle in the street. Even then, it worked just fine after I let it dry out for a day or two.

I have been checking the forums and if there are 600,000 infected Macs out there, they certainly aren't admitting it. I am not seeing it. Nor are the other security companies finding them. Only Doctor Web is claiming it. . . And that company is suspect. We've seen this kind of hype before. They have an anti-virus product to sell. . . One that is specifically designed to scan a website from Safari for malicious content BEFORE you actually navigate to it!

84 posted on 04/05/2012 11:53:58 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker
bump


85 posted on 04/06/2012 1:06:45 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Swordmaker

4Q & haters like him gotta hate.


86 posted on 04/06/2012 5:51:57 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Swordmaker; dayglored

Need I say more.


87 posted on 04/06/2012 5:57:05 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

The long-understood point:

With a PC, you just attach it to a network and eventually (often just minutes) it will be infected.
With a Mac, the malware MUST bait the user into explicitly granting privileges.

BIG difference.


88 posted on 04/06/2012 5:57:45 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ctdonath2; dayglored

See what I mean dayglored? This is just beyond stupid. Even on a thread that proves what I’ve been saying all along we have idiots that think Macs are superior to the current version of Windows.

And they believe just having windows attached to a network will get it infected within minutes.


89 posted on 04/06/2012 6:09:33 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Swordmaker

Ok, so only when the stories about windows having malware are they true. But when they are about Macs then your personal observation of OSX forums are the only proof you need.

That sounds fair and logical (for a democrat).


90 posted on 04/06/2012 6:11:07 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

Can happen, has a long history of happening, and if not by “just attached for minutes” then by a host of other malware attack vectors.

That vs _one_ instance of Mac malware, which requires baiting the user into explicitly allowing administrator control, that you’re touting for “see? they’re beyond stupid!”

Get the plank out of your eye first.


91 posted on 04/06/2012 6:18:51 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: for-q-clinton

>>>Need I say more.

no. you say the same crap all the time. obviously, I was wrong above. You don’t work at it, it’s natural for you to be a trolling wazoo aperture on the scale of Mt. Rushomre. Dude, you’re monumental!!!


92 posted on 04/06/2012 6:23:50 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: for-q-clinton

Your trolling is akin to trashing Tiger Woods for missing a putt when you can’t finish a minigolf course without losing the ball.

Remind me again how many popular anti-virus programs there are for Windows? what their success rate is? vs. same products for Mac?

Occurs to me that iOS has zero malware so far...for how many devices running 24/7?


93 posted on 04/06/2012 6:24:47 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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In fairness, 7 is supposed to have fixed that problem but as far as I'm concerned regarding MSFT it's fooled me once shame on you and it's not going to be twice.

I'm very happy with OSX. I've been running it for close to a decade without AV & have had no malware issues.

94 posted on 04/06/2012 6:29:14 AM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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Quite: we had to wait for Windows 7 to fix that problem? And still suffer endless malware attack vectors? And spend how much (both $$$ and CPU time) coping with the problem? Vs. near no malware (not zero, but close thereto) which is addressed by a free auto-installed patch from Apple. Funny how this dichotomy motivates trolls to come out declaring “you’re not perfect! Therefore you suck worse than what’s worse!” Weird.


95 posted on 04/06/2012 6:49:13 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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Ok, show me one win7 malware that installs as soon as I plug it on the network. I will even take my windows 7 machine and browse to whatever site you like me to go to and see if I get infected.

Time to put up or shut up.


96 posted on 04/06/2012 7:19:56 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ctdonath2
we had to wait for Windows 7 to fix that problem

I didn't hee hee hee. But I know what you mean.

I've had generally unpleasant experiences with MSFT after MS-DOS 5.0.

I've had generally good experiences with Mac, and OSX which I have been using since Panther has been a dream.

You point this out and someone wants to flame you.

If someone says they've just love XP or Vista or 7, I don't argue with them.

OTOH, If someone says they are having issues with XP etc. I mention my pleasant experiences with Mac.

You ever notice that you don't see a lot of flame wars between Mac & Linux people?

97 posted on 04/06/2012 7:19:56 AM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Tribune7

Tried Firefox, Stainless.

Gonna give RockMelt a whirl


98 posted on 04/06/2012 7:30:36 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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Ah, suddenly you're narrowing the issue to a particular version under very limited conditions - conveniently avoiding the host of other malware vectors and the long history of the issue and the many version still in use and the new vectors which keep popping up. Sure, the absolute latest system with all the latest anti-malware patches in place is pretty robust because all known attack vectors are covered ... but that requires considerable time, effort, knowledge, and software to keep that level of defense up. Thing is, if you don't keep expending that effort & cost, won't be long before you're vulnerable to the next "zero-day attack", some of which will be drive-by infections.

How about we first start the challenge with a Mac, out-of-the-box with no updates or extraneous anti-malware programs installed. You can plug it in and load software and visit sites however you like. Only caveat is you don't enter the administrator password without knowing it's for a legitimate purpose.

While stewing over that, you might want to peruse http://techlogon.com/2012/03/23/how-windows-gets-infected-by-malware/ and its discussion of "drive-by infections". And consider that the point of this thread is that ONE botnet has been discovered on Macs, while botnets on Windows doesn't even make news 'cuz there are so many.

See, the difference is that while maybe you're currently protected against drive-by infections, you'll have to keep escalating the defenses because the core design of Windows is susceptible to such attacks ... while OS X, at core, isn't.


99 posted on 04/06/2012 7:49:04 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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None of my 3 macs were infected. 2 of the 3 (newer machines) don’t even have java installed on them. I think it’s much ado about nothing from the 600k number (reads like Obama-math to me) to how “vulnerable” Macs are.


100 posted on 04/06/2012 8:10:47 AM PDT by TheStickman
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