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Expert: Zimmerman whispered 'punks' before shooting Trayvon Martin
wgal.com/cnn ^ | April 5, 2012

Posted on 04/05/2012 10:56:20 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SANFORD, Florida (CNN) - A forensic audio expert who analyzed 911 recordings disagrees with speculation that George Zimmerman uttered a racial slur moments before shooting Trayvon Martin to death.

What the neighborhood watch volunteer whispered as he followed the teen leading up to the deadly confrontation could weigh into the decision about charges against Zimmerman.

The garbled word that raised controversy was "punks," not "coons," said Tom Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence.

When Owen used a computer application to remove cell phone interference, the word became clearer, he said. After discussions with linguists, he became convinced that Zimmerman said "punks," he said.

He provided CNN with a copy of the processed audio.

(Excerpt) Read more at wgal.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: interracial; racism; racist; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Americanexpat

I agree. It is sad and it should be criminal the way media has participated and manipulated things.


51 posted on 04/05/2012 11:46:31 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

http://www.paranormalghost.com/evp_frequency_ranges.htm

the audio frequency ability of the cell phone is controlling, was it a wideband cell phone ? What equipment was used to record the calls, what frequency response-likely wider than the cell phone.


52 posted on 04/05/2012 11:51:56 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“The garbled word that raised controversy was “punks,” not “coons,” said Tom Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence. “

Is it just me, or do I get the feeling that the word “punks” will be a racist term by this weekend?


53 posted on 04/05/2012 11:52:39 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There is no evidence that Trayvon wasn’t a punk, like every gangsta’ thug. Whether or not Trayvon got what was coming is a matter the DA, cops, and maybe the courts will have to decide.

While it is getting worked out, white people better start traveling in well armed groups. There are a lot of punks out there looking to hurt and kill innocent crackers. Defend yourselves with deadly force.


54 posted on 04/05/2012 11:55:20 AM PDT by pallis
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To: rolling_stone
Cell phones are designed to transmit voice...which means a pretty narrow frequency range. I would guess somewhere between 250HZ on the low end, and around 8-10KHZ on the high end.

So any noise transmitted through a phone will be already be band-passed filtered into the vocal range.

For instance, if Zimmerman slammed his truck door at the exact time he said the word “cold”, it would be difficult to separate the 2 sounds once they become one audio file.

55 posted on 04/05/2012 12:02:18 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A whisper?

And “Punk” and “Coon” sound so similar.

Geez Louise. CNN won’t be happy until Zimmerman is lynched.


56 posted on 04/05/2012 12:02:32 PM PDT by hattend (Jesus wants me to make churches pay for abortions. - Barack Obama)
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To: Tenacious 1

You obviously didn’t read the comment I was responding to. And yes you are stupid for participating. I was stupid for responding. We’re all stupid. Please respond! LOL


57 posted on 04/05/2012 12:15:21 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s make-up-a-word time with Tom Owen, your favorite partisan hack audio analyst!


58 posted on 04/05/2012 12:15:50 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: I see my hands

And you are right also. Preparedness and being informed are important.


59 posted on 04/05/2012 12:29:27 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Tex-Con-Man
some newer cell phones are wideband not voiceband and if so noise outside voice frequencies could be filtered out...it would be interesting to know what type phone they both had as well if they had gps...and if the pd call center (non 911 could track the gps)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wideband_audio

60 posted on 04/05/2012 12:30:49 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He was not a punk. He was a No Limit Nigga thug. There. That should settle it.


61 posted on 04/05/2012 12:31:44 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Cool........kinda like Dirty Harry.


62 posted on 04/05/2012 12:50:13 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: bray

what is a Black Hispanic?

Bobby Bonilla!


63 posted on 04/05/2012 1:21:20 PM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: Tex-Con-Man

I’d imagine that cell phone interference is at much higher frequency range than the human voice. It was prpbably quite easy for them to remove it.


64 posted on 04/05/2012 1:24:00 PM PDT by avacado
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To: rolling_stone
But the band pass filter is like using a chainsaw to do trim carpentry.

Let's assume the phone had a full range 20-20K. Using my previous example of a truck door slamming at the same time he says the word “cold”.

The vocal range for a male can go as low as below 100HZ and has some content above 4KHZ.

The truck door slam is likely to have content below 60KHZ and some content above 1KHZ.

The question is, using a band pass filter, is it possible to eliminate the truck door slam without effecting the voice content? The answer is no. Reducing the frequency range content of a vowel or consonant has the potential to completely change it.

A consistent “noise floor” can be reduced by adding in a reverse phase of the same content. For example...sampling the noise, when Zimmerman isn't speaking, and flipping phase of the noise and overlaying it onto the "f'n cold" phrase might clean it up some, but unless it's a perfect mirror match, it won't be conclusive.

This all assumes a single audio file.

65 posted on 04/05/2012 1:28:44 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Isn’t most conversation below ~3 kHz, while the noise is high-frequency, like tape hiss?

If so, there’s no separation problem.


66 posted on 04/05/2012 1:46:09 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
Tape hiss...yikes...that's soooo T-rex.

The answer is no. Wind noise is almost always all over the vocal range. Ever see those shag carpet lookin’ mic condoms reporters use in hurricanes? Band pass filters won't eliminate wind noise without cutting out a lot of vocal content...so they just cut out the wind.

67 posted on 04/05/2012 1:52:15 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Soon he will be quoted as saying “Go ahead, make my day.”


68 posted on 04/05/2012 1:55:53 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Well most of my experience/training was T rex reel to reel..I was able to filter out passing car sounds that muffled (lol) a speaking voice...I suspect these days one can just push a couple of buttons and make the audio say what you want it to (Ive done that too with RR cut and splice editing-kinda complicated to get beginning and ending breath sounds of words right)I also had to stretch a project a few seconds and did it by actually pulling on the tape (1/2mil)to make it slightly longer.....
69 posted on 04/05/2012 2:31:59 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Texas Songwriter

BINGO

the cops and the prosecutor KNOW from forensics if Martin was shot while on top of Zimmerman, what angle etc - they KNOW if he had bought candy and ice tea as has been stated as his business for being in the neighborhood - they KNOW if there was forensic evidence of a struggle over the gun - they KNOW if either man had drugs or alcohol in their system or on their person

OR NOT

so why the silence??????


70 posted on 04/05/2012 2:34:17 PM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Punks. Coons. I always mix up those 2 words. They sound nearly identical.


71 posted on 04/05/2012 7:50:41 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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