Skip to comments.Why the Supreme Court Will Strike Down All of Obamacare
Posted on 04/06/2012 6:24:41 AM PDT by libstripper
Barack Obama made a national laughingstock out of himself with his recent comments on the Obamacare law now before the Supreme Court. Obama said on Monday, Im confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress. (emphasis added)
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I appreciate your optimism that the provisions you cite seem "not all that bad" from your perspective.
Keep in mind that you're looking in from the outside while some of us are getting hit by them on the inside. While they may seem to have laudable goals to you, the provisions you cite are just the same onerous top-down, inefficient Federal mandates that never work as intended elsewhere.
Why would you believe that arbitrary, restrictive Federal regulations would work any better in a hugely complex system like medicine than they would anywhere else in the economy?
#1 - decide Constitutionality of State and Federal Laws,
#2 - decide disputes between Sovereign States.
Obama, how effing hard is that to understand, imbecile!
If Obama wants to mandate like this then effing start the proceedings for a new Constitutional Amendment and see how far you get, loser. This process has the requirements for a “true” majority and consensus of ALL states, not just a bunch of tyrant Democrats you happened to have pulled together at an instant in time. Choke on it, loser.
Overturning Obamacare is so simple, even a caveman could do it. They built the law forcing health insurers to cover everyone at the same rate. It became obvious that people weren’t going to buy coverage until they needed it which would cause the pool of payers to be only very sick people. The only way to get the pool of people to contribute was to add the individual mandate and if you didn’t pay you were assessed a fine or tax or penalty. By doing this the federal government took over policing action which is a state responsibility. The government went way beyond their limited, enumerated and regulated power and tried to insert their authority to make people do things, which states control. Even Kagan and Sotomayor should know enough about the law to vote Obamacare down. If they don’t they have no business being Supreme Court justices.
King Lincoln killed the republic and we can argue over the exact date, but the republic is still dead none the less. Sic semper tyrannis.
I think the Illegal made a fatal error in his 2010 State of the Union Speech when he called out the Court for its decision in the Citizens United case. Justice Kennedy, the very man he needed most to persuade in the inevitably upcoming Obamacare case and the Court's most mercurial justice, wrote the Citizens United decision. Hence, the Illegal's attack on that decision was a direct, uncalled for attack on Kennedy himself. Add to that the Illegal's current, fanatical, attack on the Catholic Church for defending its most basic doctrine, with Kennedy being a Catholic, and you have a perfect recipe for Kennedy playing, "don't get mad, get even."
Indeed, even if Kennedy cast an initial, preliminary vote in favor of Obamacare, I suspect the Illegal's most recent ignorant and inflammatory diatribe against the Court might cause Kennedy to change his vote. Hence, my guarded optimism.
Well I’m actually more of an insider than you might think. Believe that or not - but I see things from the inside looking out rather than the outside looking in.
Health care is the last major industry to go electronic. Imagine if the airline reservation system functioned like a doctor’s office or a hospital with paper charts and scribbled notes? To me it only makes sense that health care needs to enter the 21st century with respect to how information is handled. I never claimed that it was easy - only necessary.
I am just curious how the Senate RATS could break Congressional rules and pass this bill through reconcilation, and then get away with it? does not seem right?
“Geez lady, you’re just a Conservative hayseed. What do you know?”
I am suitably chastened...I yield to the wisdom of TOTUS...where’s my Kool-aid?
Oh, that’s been addressed often enough. It passed on party lines, and that only because some Dems got strong-armed/paid-off to comply.
I agree that automating records is a good thing. However, I don’t think automation should be forced by government on the medical profession or any other.
“Even Kagan and Sotomayor should know enough about the law to vote Obamacare down. If they dont they have no business being Supreme Court justices.”
Right, but so?
Guess We Can’t
C’mon, getting the thing passed took an enormous effort & cost - no way would subsequent vacating thereof by SCOTUS be part of some nefarious plan to make it into a 2012 election issue. The whole point of most of it kicking in after the election was so voters & SCOTUS wouldn’t notice how horrible it is; that’s not consistent with some scheme to get SCOTUS to overturn it pre-election.
“The big win of my administration was overturned by the SC for you’ve-got-to-be-kidding-us levels of moronic. Vote for me.”
You do realize that the whole point of incentivising adoption of electronic medical records was so the gov’t could get its hands on your 4-th Amendment protected private information, right? once they have the details of your health, they can tax & regulate YOU far beyond what Orwell imagined. Really good reforms were not included, and Congress (as usual) is exempt from the whole thing (huh, wonder why). A smidgeon of good does not justify the overwhelming bad.
Leave it to Obama to shove so much wrong into a portion of one sentence. It wasn’t a strong majority by any stretch and EVERY bill is passed by a democratically elected Congress!
Absolutely spot on analysis IMHO!
Thanks for the post!
RJ says, "Obamas attack on the SCOTUS wasn't done in ignorance of the law but to convince the ignorant . . . ."
Inasmuch as the complete statement, broken down, point by point, failed to meet a standard of truth on any level, just how ignorant does he believe American voters are?
On the other hand, where are the articulate voices among the potential GOP candidates who can and will inform and educate the electorate about these things?
Opportunities are being missed for a "teaching moment" for the benefit of keeping the flame of liberty burning for future generations.
Because the courts can’t judge the rules of the rules of the House and Senate. The House and Senate of the time considered the bill passed. The fact that the rules were twisted is outside the jurisdiction of the courts. The Constitution gives each house of the Congress sole jurisdiction over it’s own rules.
I agree completely.
I particularly like all the citations of precedent.