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Three more Atlanta educators face firing for cheating (110 'teachers' still on paid leave)
AJC ^ | 3/30/12 | Jaime Sarrio

Posted on 04/06/2012 6:51:23 AM PDT by Libloather

Three more Atlanta educators face firing for cheating
By Jaime Sarrio
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
12:01 p.m. Friday, March 30, 2012

Three Atlanta educators implicated in a widespread cheating scandal were notified of the district's plans to fire them, according to letters sent Friday and Monday.

**SNIP**

That brings to 19 the number of educators the district has taken steps to terminate after months of delay and millions spent in payroll and legal expenses. APS is paying about $1 million a month to some 110 educators accused of cheating who remain on leave, but the system is trying to resolve the cases by the end of the school year.

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atlanta; cheating; fired; teachers
What does it take to get fired around here?
1 posted on 04/06/2012 6:51:29 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

I think the one being fired has to agree to it. It’s in the contract...

/s


2 posted on 04/06/2012 6:56:14 AM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Libloather

Teachers = union goons lite... not a surprise...


3 posted on 04/06/2012 6:57:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: Libloather

Premature (or not) death “usually” results in one leaving a teaching job (I say “usually” as I’ve actually observed some who appear dead but still sitting at their desk.)


4 posted on 04/06/2012 7:00:56 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Libloather

I never understood the “paid leave” thing, which is certainly not unique to accused teachers.

Their leave should be unpaid. Then if the evidence shows them to be innocent, the accused should get all their back pay, plus a sizable interest.


5 posted on 04/06/2012 7:08:48 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Libloather

$1-million per month sent to 110 teachers comes out to $9090 per month to each teacher.


6 posted on 04/06/2012 7:10:47 AM PDT by HighWheeler
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To: Libloather

$1-million per month sent to 110 teachers comes out to $9090 per month to each teacher.


7 posted on 04/06/2012 7:10:58 AM PDT by HighWheeler
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To: HighWheeler

Salary and benfits to the teachers on leave and
the payments to the substitute teachers.


8 posted on 04/06/2012 7:15:03 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: HighWheeler

Salary and benfits to the teachers on leave and
the payments to the substitute teachers.


9 posted on 04/06/2012 7:15:15 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: HighWheeler

Salary and benfits to the teachers on leave and
the payments to the substitute teachers.


10 posted on 04/06/2012 7:15:41 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Libloather

I’d like to be on paid suspension the rest of my life ...


11 posted on 04/06/2012 7:23:48 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Read "Radical Son" by David Horowitz to understand the Left.)
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To: Libloather

I considered the AJC suitable only for lining a birdcage, but I have to give them some real credit for having the stones to defend the children and taxpayers on this story. I hope for every school employee reader they lose (if, indeed, they can actually read at the required level), they gain two over this.


12 posted on 04/06/2012 8:02:37 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Libloather

The “public school” is BY FAR, the largest, most expensive, most subversive, and most destructive entitlement program in the country.

The “public school” is better understood as the “government school collective”.

It is silly to imagine that you can fix the public schools, because the very concept itself is communist.

Any child that comes out of the government school collective with their moral compass and common sense intact does so in spite of the government school indoctrination, not because of it.

If you want to win the culture war, have lots of children (see my tagline) and homeschool them or form your own school cooperative with your church or synagogue and like-minded friends and relatives.

Nobody loves your children more than you do.

Nobody can teach your children like you can.

Your children would love nothing better than to be taught by you, if you start doing so before they are corrupted by the government school collective.

It is hypocritical for you to submit your children to an authority with whom you fundamentally disagree. And your children will know it.

If you have children, make whatever sacrifices you must to get them out of the public schools.

DO NOT FEED THE BEAST!

Especially not with your own children.


13 posted on 04/06/2012 8:08:46 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: zerosix

Death doesn’t always end a teaching contract. See Detroit Public Schools.


14 posted on 04/06/2012 9:05:36 AM PDT by newbolt
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To: HighWheeler

Champion News | 10 Things You Probably Don’t Know About IL State Pensions.

1. Taxpayershave contributed more, not less, than the 1995 Fifty year pension funding law required.

Most people are familiar with the 1995 pension funding law that set up a schedule of payments that would result in 90% pension funding by 2044 for all the state pension systems. The schedule of state payments given to us in 1995 has been exceeded. So why are we being told we have to pay more when we have already overpaid?
See “Pension Crisis: Politicians and Unions Lied To Us in 1995 and Have Been Lying to Us Ever Since.”

2. Since 2001 taxpayers have contributed 230% more than teachers to the Teachers Retirement System.

The most vociferous group in demanding more from taxpayers are teacher unions and their members. Hardly a day passes without a strident claim by a teacher or union honcho or one of their many political lackeys that the taxpayer (AKA the state) has not made their contribution while the dutiful teachers always make theirs. Good job by the unions convincing their membership but unfortunately for them it is patently not true.
“Taxpayers Have Contributed 230% more than Teachers Since 2001”.

3. Less than 1% of state retirees worked 40 years.

If you work in the private sector from age 22 to 62 and retire on early Social Security at a maximum of $22,000 you will have worked 40 years. It is extremely rare for state workers to work that long in spite of the large pensions. In fact the Top 100 Pensions average only 31 years work in IL for their average $227,000 pension. And educators are not the only employees with a good deal. Most state employees (SERS) who work at least 40 years will have retirement income greater than their final salary take-home-pay (pension plus Social Security).
See Chapter 2.8 “Average State Pensions Are Far Above Average”.

4. The supposedly “modest” average state pensions are worth 4 times Social Security.

The word “modest” is used by media, union members and politicians to describe IL state pensions in order to minimize the huge cost to taxpayers. But when you look closer you find that the average state employee works less than 25 years and in more than half the cases only 9 months a year (educators). So why are pensions worth 4 times Social Security for 9-month employees working partial (25-years) careers considered “modest”? The highest pensions are 8 to 10 times Social Security.
See Chapter 2.8 “Average State Pensions Are Far Above Average.”.

5. State retirees have used more than 132,000 years of sick-leave credit to receive extra pension without actually having to work for it.

Employees in the state pensions can accrue sick leave at the rate of 10 to 15 days per year and use them as “work years” when they retire. In TRS a “work year” is only 170 days (34 weeks) so in about 20 years or so a teacher will have the maximum two years already accrued well before they retire. In some school districts sick days are given away or can be purchased outright at the time of retirement for $20/day. I show an example of a teacher who paid $6,800 at her time of retirement for 340 days (2 years) sick leave credit that boosted her pension by $4,800/year.
See Chapter 1.4 “Retired Teachers Getting Pensions for 157,700 years They Never Worked”.

6. Over 44,000 retirees have annual pensions greater than their total contributions over their entire career.

This is an indication that employee contributions are much too low. As a comparison, the maximum Social Security at age 62 is $22,000 after about $130,000 in employee contributions over the recipient’s career. So even if you lived to age 125 with cost-of-living-adjustments your annual Social Security would never exceed your contributions.
See Chapter 1.8 “Should Public Employees Have pensions Greater Than Their Career pension Contributions?”

7. The reason TRS pension liability is so high is because teachers are vastly overpaid compared to adjoining states.

The way IL pensions are calculated a doubling of salary results in a doubling of pension payments. The top teacher salary in IL for 2011, $203,000 for a suburban Phys-ed teacher, is $108,000 more than the top teacher in Kentucky. It is also $95,000 higher than WI, $92,000 higher than IA and $83,000 higher than MO highest teacher salaries.
See Chapter 4.12 “Why Is Illinois’s Top Teacher salary $108,000More Than Kentucky’s?”

8. If IL teachers had the same salary and pension schedule as Wisconsin we would save more than $4 billion/yr. enough to make the annual pension payment.

WI teachers (and administrators) have much lower salaries than their IL peers and their maximum pension is not reached until age 65. If the same rules applied to IL we would save $4 billion/yr. even including the Social Security cost associated with WI.
See Chapter 4.5 “Wisconsin: Top Teacher Salary $89K Less Than IL To Teacher Salary” and Chapter 4.6 IL School Administrators Make 67% More than Wisconsin’s”.

9. If the pension rules in effect in 1970 when the “Pension Guarantee” was added to the state constitution were still in effect there would be no unfunded pension liability.

In December 1970 the phrase “shall not be diminished or impaired” was added to the IL state constitution guaranteeing pensions for state employees. One month later in January 1971 new laws were passed increasing pension benefits by 11% to 53%. Boy, that didn’t take long.Pension benefits were increased by another 17-30% in 1998.
See Chapter 1.1 “IL Pensions: More than 130 benefit increases since 1970 are the major cause of unfunded liability.”

10. Teachers’ unions have given IL politicians of both parties more than $50 million in contributions since 1995.

Unions give politicians $10’s of millions and get $10’s of billions back in increased pension benefits. Rod Blagojevich gets $1.8 million from teacher unions then pushes $10 billion pension bond thru the legislature.
See Chapter 2.6 “Teacher Unions Give Politicians $10’s of millions in Contributions, Politicians Give Teacher Union Members $10’s of Billions in Benefits.”

http://www.championnews.net/2012/03/30/10-things-you-probably-dont-know-about-il-state-pensions/


15 posted on 04/07/2012 7:07:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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