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Insiders Poll: Enthusiasm Wanes for Rubio as VP Pick; Rob Portman Rising
National Journal ^ | 04/06/2012 | Alex Roarty and Peter Bell

Posted on 04/06/2012 8:01:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Political Insiders in both parties have noticeably cooled on the vice presidential prospects of Marco Rubio.

Democratic and Republican strategists alike said Republican senator from Florida was the strongest GOP option for vice president in this week's National Journal Insiders Poll, but he carried only slim pluralities among both groups. That's a significant drop-off from the same survey taken in October, when 60 percent of Republicans and 65 percent of Democrats and considered him the party's best possible running mate.

Now, just 34 percent of GOP insiders and 28 percent of Democrats say Rubio is the party's best hope for the No. 2 spot on the presidential ticket.


(Excerpt) Read more at hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: marcorubio; robportman; rubio; vp
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1 posted on 04/06/2012 8:01:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

FROM THE ARTICLE ( TABLE OF PREFERENCES INCLUDED ):

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The decrease could be attributable to a sense that the senator, while popular among conservative activists, has yet to be vetted or tested nationally. Those fears are particularly acute among GOP officials after the selection of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running mate four years ago, a decision that ultimately politically backfired on the Republican presidential nominee.

Still, Rubio’s promise remains: He’s young, telegenic, from a key state and - most importantly of all - Latino. The likely GOP nominee, Mitt Romney, is none of those things, and has struggled to attract Hispanic support even as the group is poised to play a decisive role in the presidential election.

“[Rubio’s] a three-fer: young, Hispanic, and from what may be the most important state - a la 2000,” said one Democratic iInsider.

Another Democrat said, “Rubio disrupts Obama’s Hispanic strategy in Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, and other states.”

He’s great on paper, a GOP Insider says. It’s just a question if he’ll handle the spotlight.

“Hispanic, swing state, conservative,” the Republican said. “The only question - is he ready?”

As Rubio’s popularity wanes, support for Rep. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, has surged. Barely a consideration six months ago, the former White House budget director was the second-most frequent choice for both sets of strategists - receiving 23 percent support among Republicans and 22 percent for Democrats.

Portman was a key backer of Romney’s during the Ohio GOP primary and is considered a safe, well-vetted pick from a crucial swing state.

“Not only is he eminently qualified to be president, but even more importantly no Republican as ever been elected President without carrying the state of Ohio,” said one GOP strategist.

Added another Democrat: “It is not about sizzle. Portman would make a great VP - highly qualified, highly competent, and from Ohio.”

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE REST...


2 posted on 04/06/2012 8:02:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

FROM THE ARTICLE ( TABLE OF PREFERENCES INCLUDED ):

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The decrease could be attributable to a sense that the senator, while popular among conservative activists, has yet to be vetted or tested nationally. Those fears are particularly acute among GOP officials after the selection of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running mate four years ago, a decision that ultimately politically backfired on the Republican presidential nominee.

Still, Rubio’s promise remains: He’s young, telegenic, from a key state and - most importantly of all - Latino. The likely GOP nominee, Mitt Romney, is none of those things, and has struggled to attract Hispanic support even as the group is poised to play a decisive role in the presidential election.

“[Rubio’s] a three-fer: young, Hispanic, and from what may be the most important state - a la 2000,” said one Democratic iInsider.

Another Democrat said, “Rubio disrupts Obama’s Hispanic strategy in Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, and other states.”

He’s great on paper, a GOP Insider says. It’s just a question if he’ll handle the spotlight.

“Hispanic, swing state, conservative,” the Republican said. “The only question - is he ready?”

As Rubio’s popularity wanes, support for Rep. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, has surged. Barely a consideration six months ago, the former White House budget director was the second-most frequent choice for both sets of strategists - receiving 23 percent support among Republicans and 22 percent for Democrats.

Portman was a key backer of Romney’s during the Ohio GOP primary and is considered a safe, well-vetted pick from a crucial swing state.

“Not only is he eminently qualified to be president, but even more importantly no Republican as ever been elected President without carrying the state of Ohio,” said one GOP strategist.

Added another Democrat: “It is not about sizzle. Portman would make a great VP - highly qualified, highly competent, and from Ohio.”

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE REST...


3 posted on 04/06/2012 8:02:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Las Vegas Dave; Farmer Dean; LS; tobyhill; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; ...

Rob Portman is a smart guy, but would be easy to attack for his work in the Bush Administration.


4 posted on 04/06/2012 8:06:23 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who is Rob Portman???


5 posted on 04/06/2012 8:06:43 PM PDT by stevecmd
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To: SeekAndFind

Totally out of Left Field PING.

Who in the world is “Rob Portman”. (never even heard of him)

And who wrote this silliness?


6 posted on 04/06/2012 8:07:35 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ((Racism Fatigue) America is the least racist nation on Earth)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rubio keeps saying no, so I gotta believe he knows something we don’t.


7 posted on 04/06/2012 8:10:02 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the VP pick will depend on how things look in late August. If Romney is in good shape and looks like he can really win, I suspect he’ll go with either Rubio, Christie or Ryan and it’ll be a real donnybrook between those 3.

But if we get to August and it’s starting to look like a Clinton/Dole scenario and Obama has a solid/steady lead I suspect the party and establishment won’t want to hurt their chances in 2016 by having one of the stars on the bench go down with the ship. A guy like Portman(or Jon Kyl) is perfect in that case. He has no ambitions of his own and no one else does for him and him being part of a losing ticket wouldn’t hurt anyone else going forward and it would leave all the rising stars unscathed and ready for 2016.

In retrospect that was a mistake Palin made by tying herself to McCain. I don’t blame her really and obviously she accepted before anyone had any idea about what was going to happen to the economy in Sept and Oct. If Lehman had collapsed on Aug 15 instead of Sep 15 there’s no way she’d have accepted in my view. It’s interesting to think where she’d be now if she hadn’t taken the VP nod. There are pros and cons for both sides.

But I think it all depends on how things look. It’ll either be a glamour pick like Rubio/Christie/Ryan if Romney really looks like he has a good chance or it’ll be a guy like Portman or Kyl if the party is looking for someone like Jack Kemp in 96 to be a good soldier, take one for the team and get a nice reward for years of loyal service and as a wya to sort cap their career.


8 posted on 04/06/2012 8:10:07 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

RE: Who in the world is “Rob Portman”. (never even heard of him)

Robert Jones “Rob” Portman (born December 19, 1955) is the junior United States Senator from Ohio. He is a member of the Republican Party. He succeeded retiring Senator George Voinovich.

FROM WIKIPEDIA:

Portman was born in 1955 in Cincinnati, Ohio, the son of Joan (née Jones) and entrepreneur William C. “Bill” Portman II. [8] When he was young, his father borrowed money to start the Portman Equipment Company, a forklift dealership where he and his siblings all worked growing up. The company grew from a small business with five employees and Joan Portman as bookkeeper to one that employed over 300 people.[9]

According to a 2010 Weekly Standard profile, Portman “developed a political philosophy grounded in entrepreneurship,” having grown up “[hearing] talk about regulations, and taxes, and government getting in the way of small business” because of his early experiences with his family business.[3]

Portman graduated from Cincinnati Country Day School in 1974 and went on to attend Dartmouth College, where he majored in anthropology and earned a Bachelor of Arts (B.A.) in 1979. He earned his Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree from the University of Michigan Law School in 1984[10][11] and worked for two years as an international trade attorney at the Washington, D.C., law firm of Patton Boggs.[citation needed]

Portman returned to Cincinnati in 1986 and was employed at the law firm Graydon, Head, and Ritchey (GH&R).[citation needed] In 1989, he began his career in public service working for President George H. W. Bush as Associate White House Counsel. He later served as Director of the White House Office of Legislative Affairs until 1991 when he returned to Cincinnati and became a partner at GH&R. Two years later, he was elected to the House of Representatives.[citation needed]

Portman and his wife Jane are residents of Terrace Park in Hamilton County. They have three children.


9 posted on 04/06/2012 8:12:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: stevecmd

Here is Rob Portman on the issues:

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/rob_portman.htm


10 posted on 04/06/2012 8:13:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Who in the world is “Rob Portman”. (never even heard of him)

You are not supposed to hear about Portman. The Ohio GOP likes to install behind the scenes NWO types to serve as Ohio US Senators. Think of former Senator George Voinovitch ... RINO to the core, but you rarely heard from him except when he was crying for some socialist liberal cause.

11 posted on 04/06/2012 8:17:15 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: SeekAndFind
I'd vote for her in a heartbeat. Even easier on the eyes than Sarah...


12 posted on 04/06/2012 8:20:08 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: stevecmd

Never heard of him either. Rubio’s out because he got blacklash from the pro-Romney shoutout.


13 posted on 04/06/2012 8:20:54 PM PDT by max americana
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To: jeltz25

If Obama wins, it won’t matter because we won’t have a country in 4 years.


14 posted on 04/06/2012 8:23:19 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: SeekAndFind

I hate still seeing these articles that say picking Palin backfired on McCain. It did no such thing. The pick was brilliant and did everything McCain wanted it to do.

It instantly ended any attention/coverage of Obama’s speech and the DNC

It stopped any Obama bounce cold

It gave McCain tons of media attention and coverage, pop culture appeal and a “cool”/historic factor that he clearly lacked against Obama

It gave him a huge bounce among white women, the very demographic he was aiming for when he picked her

It rallied conservatives and the base and evangelicals to his side and generated tons of enthusiasm and excitement in the party

It gave him a lead in the polls(nationally and in key swing states) and put him in great shape heading into the fall campaign, when many thought he had no chance whatsoever only days before.

It was all going great...until Lehman collapsed, the markets crashed, and the economy melted down. That’s what backfired on him and the GOP. Once that happened the election was over. Just as the election will be over this year in Sep if the market drops 3000 pts in a couple weeks and has a few days of 800+ pt drops. No matter how good Obama, Axelrod and Plouffe are.

Palin had nothing to do with any of that. Just as she had nothing to do with McCain’s idiotic decision to suspend his campaign and tie himself once again to W over the bailout just as Palin had helped distance him from Bush and create some breathing room for him. That was all that genius Steve Schmidt.

Just as she had nothing to do with his relatively weak 3 debate performances vs Obama.

In the end, though, the collapse of the economy, the dislike of the Iraq War, Obama outspending McCain by 400+ million dollars, and most importantly the fatc the George W Bush was throughout all of 2008 the most unpopular President in the history of modern polling was just too much to overcome. Again, none of those factors had anything to do with her. No republican was going to win in 2008. It just wasn’t going to happen. It was a Dem year. Just like 2010 was a GOP year. Palin didn’t backfire at all. She did everything she was supposed to do and they wanted her to do and then the economy fell apart and the die was cast.

Quite honestly the fact that McCain still won 22 states and got 46% of the vote and 60,000,000 total votes is astonishing to me. I’m still surprised the GOP ticket got more than 30% period. By all accounts 2008 should have been a replay of 1984, 1980, 1972, 1964. It wasn’t. And it could have been even closer. States like IN and NC were both decided by less than 1%. FL was a 3 pt margin. OH was a 4 pt margin.

I’ll always wonder what would have happened if Lehman didn’t go down and the economy just stayed the same in Sep/Oct as it was in August. I think McCain would have won a very close victor ya la Bush in 2004.


15 posted on 04/06/2012 8:24:06 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Unfortunately she’s ineligible. Born in Jerusalem. The birthers would go nuts.


16 posted on 04/06/2012 8:25:41 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25

The economy didn’t just fall apart in Sept 08; It was deliberately sabotaged by the Dems that ran Fanny and Freddie, and by Buffet, Gates, and Soros.

George Bush did his part too, by going along with the charade, and by signing TARP (which was nothing but a payback for those that had just sabotaged the economy)
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17 posted on 04/06/2012 8:35:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: SeekAndFind

juan would have lost by a landslide of Biblical proportions... if not for Palin.

LLS


18 posted on 04/06/2012 8:36:39 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: suijuris

Portman was a solid conservative congressman in Cincinnati for a long time. He’s one of the good guys. He left congress to be budget director under Bush ( not that that is necessarily a plus).


19 posted on 04/06/2012 8:42:23 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know much about Portman, in spite of the info posted on this thread.

As far as Rubio...we need him in the Senate at this point where he can do some good. jmho


20 posted on 04/06/2012 8:43:06 PM PDT by berdie
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To: max americana

They all start losing support as soon as they speak up for Romney.


21 posted on 04/06/2012 8:43:33 PM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

would not be surprised. It always seemed a bit too much of a coincidence to me that just as McCain took a lead and looked like he might actually win the economy totally falls apart on a scale not seen since 1929

hard to believe it was just random and that there weren’t some other factors at work


22 posted on 04/06/2012 8:45:08 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: SeekAndFind

Portman is basiclly a straight-across-the-board Conservative.

My only irritation with him is he supports amnesty for illegal aliens.


23 posted on 04/06/2012 8:49:35 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SeekAndFind
The only exciting choice Milt has left is Harold Stassen. He will be able to consolidate the dead vote.

A perennial candidate should naturally pick a perennial candidate for VP.

24 posted on 04/06/2012 8:50:54 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

I’ve been saying that Portman is a likely VP pick for Romney (if, God forbid, he ends up receiving the GOP nomination as seems extremely likely), given that just about all of the other first-tier potential runningmates are Catholic, and Romney needs a Protestant in the ticket so as to assuage the fears of some Protestant voters wary of his Mormonism. Marco Rubio, Bob McDonnell, Paul Ryan, Susana Martinez, Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, Jeb Bush, Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie ... Catholics all. It’s amazing how we’ve had only one non-Protestant in the 39 GOP presidential tickets since the party was founded in 1854 (Catholic William Miller, Goldwater’s runningmate in 1964), yet this year the party’s presidential nominee will be either a Mormon or a Catholic and nearly all of the best VP candidates are Catholic.

Other than Senator Portman (who is smart, experienced and from bellwether OH, so he would be on anyone’s shortlist), the only top-notch VP candidates who are Protestant are Gov. Scott Walker of WI (who currently is too busy with his recall election to entertain the possibility of running on a presidential ticket, but hopefully that problem will go away soon), former MN Gov. Tim Pawlenty and current SC Gov. Nikki Haley. Of those, Portman seems to me to be the likeliest choice.


25 posted on 04/06/2012 8:50:54 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: SeekAndFind
mitts only hope is probably palin
26 posted on 04/06/2012 8:51:11 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: SatinDoll

Anyone who supports amnesty is not a Conservative but perhaps pretends to be a Conservative. The damage done to this country by the hordes of illegals who roam across the land is obvious to any normal person.


27 posted on 04/06/2012 8:52:52 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: SeekAndFind

another thing Palin had nothing to do with.

In 2004 around 13 million blacks voted. 88% for Kerry, or around 11.5M of them.

In 2008 17 million blacks voted, an increase in turnout of over 30%. 95% for Obama, or closer to 16.5M of them. So Obama got a 5 million vote boost just from the black vote.

I don’t think Palin had anything to do with that. Among non-blacks McCain won 59M to 53M.


28 posted on 04/06/2012 8:56:31 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/2010/11/natalie-portman-loose-wavy-hairstyle.jpg

FAIL.

Nice diversion though. Thank you. :D


29 posted on 04/06/2012 8:57:12 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ((Racism Fatigue) America is the least racist nation on Earth)
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To: Dante3

Portman’s childhood involved working in the family business. He is basically a fiscal and social conservative who supports the demands of business. He is a Free Trader.

Many businessmen want illegal labor as it is cheap and under the counter. That is why I wouldn’t support Gov.Perry; his major supporters in TX were the building trades, developers, and agriculture sector.

To me, illegal aliens are criminals. It must be seen as a law and order issue, something missing entirely in this campaign, because if we don’t correct this problem ASAP it will destroy this nation.


30 posted on 04/06/2012 8:59:33 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I bet his rug is still around.


31 posted on 04/06/2012 9:12:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Brilliant

“Rubio keeps saying no, so I gotta believe he knows something we don’t.”

Yeah, he knows he doesnt want the job right now.
You can get more done as a Senator over your career than a VP.

Think Ted Kennedy vs Dan Quayle.


32 posted on 04/06/2012 9:36:26 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

You make an interesting observation about ex-Congressman William Miller, I didn’t know he was Catholic. What I remember reading was that everybody liked him, even his enemies. During the 1964 campaign, he would play cards with members of the D.C. Press Corps and always win, yet they had a ball with him. I wish he had run for statewide office in 1966 or been appointed to the U.S. Senate in 1968, but perhaps the Goldwater connection would have hurt in New York.

His son and namesake ran for Congress in the early 1990’s unsuccessfully. He currently lives in Charlotte, North Carolina, one of many transplanted Yankees there.


33 posted on 04/06/2012 9:49:27 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: SeekAndFind

Enthusiam waned for Rubio after he confirmed everyone’s suspicion that he was little more than a RINO when the news came out he was working on another Amnesty bill.

So many RINOS, so many RINO supporters, so many people with their heads in the sand.


34 posted on 04/06/2012 10:07:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SeekAndFind

Here are Republican U.S. Senate candidate Rob Portman’s positions on some very important issues:
Please go to this site: http://www.ontheissues.org/oh/rob_portman.htm

Please read Portman’s positions on Immigration — he is for WIDE OPEN borders.
Here more info on his immigration views: http://www.numbersusa.com/content/my/congress/623/reportcard/CAREER/

Portman voted in favor of the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 — read about the Act here: http://www.heritage.org/research/education/bg1775.cfm

These statements are taken from the Health Care section of http://www.ontheissues.org/oh/rob_portman.htm: Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003) He voted NO on allowing reimportation of prescription drugs. (Jul 2003)

Portman is a free trader like Bush.
This statement is taken from the Energy and Oil section of http://www.ontheissues.org/oh/rob_portman.htm: He voted YES on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol. (Jun 2000)

These statements are from the Foreign Policy section of http://www.ontheissues.org/oh/rob_portman.htm: Voted NO on keeping Cuba travel ban until political prisoners released. (Jul 2001) He voted YES on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. (May 2000)
Please read the Free Trade section.

IMHO, Portman is a high priest of the economic theocracy that places the needs of multinational corporations over the needs of AMERICANS. If the Chinese could vote, he would win by a landslide.

Portman is a RINO...not a Conservative.


35 posted on 04/06/2012 10:11:42 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: SeekAndFind
No matter who the insiders pick to go with Mitt, it will not

change who Romney is. Unreal, that we are about to go in the

general with such a weak person representing the party. If I

wanted to vote for a democrat, there's a party for such.

36 posted on 04/06/2012 10:21:21 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Oh, boy. There goes the women’s vote.


37 posted on 04/06/2012 10:55:32 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: SeekAndFind

Portman has been vetted, He is a mini-Romney with the same popular touch.


38 posted on 04/06/2012 11:02:27 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: SeekAndFind; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

Ohio Ping!
To be added to the Ohio Ping List, please freepmail (works best),
both LasVegasDave and Flutters.


39 posted on 04/06/2012 11:05:47 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("All 57 states must stand together and defeat O-bozo! VOTE the bum out!!")
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Thanks, Dave.

Rubio made a major misstep---endorsing Romney.

That cost him his conservative base.

40 posted on 04/06/2012 11:11:25 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: RobbyS
Portman has been vetted, He is a mini-Romney with the same popular touch.

Although I hold country-club republicans in the highest disdain, I kinda like Portman.

But, I'll go for Josh Mandell anyday.

41 posted on 04/06/2012 11:17:05 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Rudder

I’ve only seen Portman on Utube, and I must say that while he is well spoken, that when he goes informal, by taking his tie off, he looks a bit like a businessman who has been mugged.


42 posted on 04/06/2012 11:46:25 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: duffee

“They all start losing support as soon as they speak up for Romney.”

Yes they do. For the duration.


43 posted on 04/06/2012 11:50:12 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to support Willard. He is what he is.)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Enthusiam waned for Rubio after he confirmed everyone’s suspicion that he was little more than a RINO when the news came out he was working on another Amnesty bill.

So many RINOS, so many RINO supporters, so many people with their heads in the sand.”

I am not sure there really are that many. I think they just have louder speakers. Especially as the GOP capsizes to the left, they have begun to ape leftist tactics, the loudest bullhorns being one of them.


44 posted on 04/06/2012 11:53:14 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to support Willard. He is what he is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Portman is an establishment republican. He’s my former congressman, and he was once a fairly staunch conservative, but that ended when he was elevated to good-ole-boy status.

I will not support a Romeny/Anybody ticket, and I will work for their defeat.

Any pro-life conservative who supports Romney is a hypocrite.


45 posted on 04/07/2012 3:30:23 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Democratic and Republican strategists alike said Republican senator from Florida was the strongest GOP option for vice president in this week's National Journal Insiders Poll, but he carried only slim pluralities among both groups.

I have a feeling that as time passes, Rubio will be losing more votes from the Right and gaining a whole lot from the Left....

46 posted on 04/07/2012 3:41:28 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: xzins

Obama is pleased w you.


47 posted on 04/07/2012 3:46:50 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Tell me that you believe Romney is a pro-life, pro-natural marriage, pro-gun, pro-small government conservative.

I just want to see you write it.


48 posted on 04/07/2012 3:51:33 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

I am ABO. Mittens stinks, but it is not about him. It’s about getting rid of the communist ghetto slum Marxist street punk Obama.


49 posted on 04/07/2012 3:54:55 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Colonel Davy Crockett:

am sorry to say I do doubt the honesty of many men that are called good at home, that have given themselves up to serve a party. I am no man's man. I bark at no man's bid. I will never come and go, and fetch and carry, at the whistle of the great man in the white house, no matter who he is. And if this petty, un-patriotic scuffling for men, and forgetting principles, goes on, it will be the overthrow of this one happy nation, and the blood and toil of our ancestors will have been expended in vain. An Account of Col. Crockett's Tour to the North and Down East : In the Year of Our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty-four (1835), p. 172

50 posted on 04/07/2012 4:01:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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