Skip to comments.Lab-grown human egg cells could be fertilised
Posted on 04/07/2012 4:35:05 AM PDT by NYer
Scientists want to secure permission to fertilise the eggs, which have been produced from stem cells, to see whether reproduction this way is possible.
Researchers are working towards generating an infinite supply of human eggs which could allow older and infertile women to become mothers, the Independent newspaper reports.
Furthermore, some scientists have gone as far as to say the tests could uncover an ‘elixir of youth’ which would eliminate the menopause and allow older women to remain young and healthy, with the stem cell eggs replenishing their ovaries.
The teams from Edinburgh University and Harvard Medical School in the US are aiming to fertilise the eggs with human sperm, which would allow them to study them for the legal limit of 14 days, and they will not yet be transplanted into a human womb.
Edinburgh biologist Dr Evelyn Telfer told the newspaper: 'Could the fertilisation take place this year? Yes, absolutely.'
'If you can show you can get ovarian stem cells from the human ovary you then have the potential to do more for fertility preservation.'
Science, arrogantly believing they can improve on the divine design. God help us all!
Are we in such short supply of human beings that this is necessary?
Cannon fodder comes to mind.
Good and bad news there. Good news: No more menopausal women; Bad news: Social Security is already going broke.
Seriously though, why do this? This is man at his arrogant worst.
We are in very short supply of humans who believe their only purpose in life is to serve the powerful and do not realize they are free agents.
However, if you raise something straight from the embryonic stage and teach it that is all it’s good for, it will never leave your side and it will never complain about mistreatment.
The fact that you’d only have to feed it and clothe it makes it a relative bargain.
Since God knew this would happen, is it done without His approval?
Oh no ... we will have to put up with Cher’s and Goldie Hawn’s aging but surgically corrected bodies FOREVER.
Nothing that can be done in sin can win God’s approval.
But, it could be allowed to show what man is capable of when he tries to be independent of his Creator.
So you believe God allows sin to happen?
Perhaps it’s not really a sin?
Did Adam and Eve sin freely or were they forced to?
Gee, what could possibly go wrong? /s - or is it s/?
So we kill the embryos we don’t want, and manufacture those we do? I think it was the 60’s when we had that saying... “Stop the world, I want to get off!”
He allows free will.
I really don’t know. As a matter of fact, I don’t really know if the story is true or not.
But He also knows those free will decisions and their results, before they are made, right?
This is done in the service of Sandra Fluke and her ilk, who wish to postpone pregnancy until they have well-established careers; and who wish to fulfill the claim that "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle."
Like most liberals, they fail to include the element of time in their calculations, and of what humans really are like: first, who wants to have a mom who is 70-ish when they are in their mid-teens, and second, I can see great problems with alienation from society and consequent resentment on the part of the children when they learn that they were conceived unnaturally and that (likely enough) they have no possibility of finding who their "mother" and "father" are.
Reductionism is dehumanizing to those who are the subject of analysis and experiment; and leads to a Luciferian pride on the part of the experimenters. I supposed that the experimenters here flatter themselves that these techniques disprove the existence of the soul.
Is life better than death or is death better than life?
Having knowledge is not giving permission.
How many times has this been explained to you yet you continue to try this ploy of shifting blame for man’s sins to God his creator? You are one dead souled puppy and you seem to have to work at it to remain a dead soul!
NO cheers, unfortunately.
one can only wonder........has fertilization not taken place already?
I can’t see a zealous grad student being bound by law.
...While millions are murdered in the womb.
As a live person, I’ll go with life. Is this relevant?
It’s easy enough to assume that researchers are busy trying to figure out how to turn off genes that create the head or brain, so they can do organ transplants without ethical concerns.
Even with God, the vreator of all? If God knows something will happen, doesn’t it have to happen?
“But He also knows those free will decisions and their results, before they are made, right?”
And, He knew what he would have to do to then solve the problem. He would, in the 2nd person of the Trinity, offer himself as the required sacrifice for sin. “For God so LOVED the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.”
As a wretched sinner, I can attest to you the power of God to change hearts. “And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.”
How many times have I explained to you, that I do not consider it blame, but responsibility? Are you so negative that you cannot see the difference?
Why do you constantly associate these questions I pose to people, with being a dead soul?
Why do you believe God considers this a problem? Why don’t you consider it as one of God’s mysteries and just part of His plan?
One of these days Cher is going to smile, her face will crack and then we'll see the Hag out of the Bag.
Two reasons. One, he refers to sin throughout his word as a “problem”. He did not want us to live eternally apart from him so he kept Adam and Eve (and the rest of us) from the tree of life. Two, if he did not consider sin a problem, why did he offer himself as the solution?
Debate is pointless, though. If you truly want answers from God, ask him. He loves you and has given you his word (the Bible) to help you. He does not hide from those who truly seek him.
Lawyers and Dictators everywhere are breathless on this one.
I'm thinking part of the Gay Revolution.
Well, I don’t seek answers from God. I ask people in the hope that they will answer with what they think, instead of what they have read.
Outrageous and sad! Can S & G be far behind?
His "knowing" what will happen does not preclude His approval. Example: You are looking out a sealed window and notice a child chasing a ball into the street. You also notice a truck barreling down the road. You know what is about to happen but cannot prevent it from happening.
God has given man the gift of "free will". We choose how to use it.
Something resembling the film 'Rosemary's Baby'.
Fascist Pigs breeding indoctrinated jackbooted mongrel enforcers while the hard working dumass horse pays for everything.
Absurd arrogance, is it not?
“an infinite supply of human eggs which could allow older and infertile women to become mothers”
Axlotl tanks, anyone?
You can deceive many with your shucking and jiving, but in the end it is you trying to shuck off responsibility for your sins that is the modus operendi for your shucking and jiving. And your twisting and wriggling just shows the more your desperation to ‘pass the blame’ and absolve yourself of responsibility for your ultimate demise. When you became a human being, you became a being with an eternal nature. You will be the ultimate decider of your etrernal deadness or your coming alive in Christ. You have so far chosen to spit in God’s face and dismiss His plan of salvation from eternal deadness. Good luck with that. You will not argue God into dismissing your sinfulness, whatever your chosen degeneracy may be, because He has given fair and open invitation to come alive in Christ and you are choosing to dismiss that with your twisted sophistry.
Your example is fine for a human. God is the creator of all though. His knowing something will happen, means it must happen, right? Why would He create someone He knows will do something wrong?
I guess you just don’t understand what you read, again. Thanks for the non-answers, again.
‘Nite, it’s time for bed.
It must be hard work remaining ignorant at all cost, even exposing your desperation.
“Your example is fine for a human. God is the creator of all though. His knowing something will happen, means it must happen, right? Why would He create someone He knows will do something wrong?”
I don’t mean this sarcastically but, do you believe God is the creator of all? By human logic and scientific understanding, nothing has ever been observed to spontaneously be created out of nothing without a cause, a prime mover, a creator. Logic would then dictate that this creator, by the example given of creation itself, would thereby have the ability to do whatever they willed, like making sure His word would stand over time. In his word he has authenticated himself through prophesy that has been fulfilled. He tells me, in His word, that he knew the problem of sin could arise from free will so he offered a simple solution.
I chose to believe the One that is capable of creating an entire universe over fallible man.
God loves you. He died for you, even on a cross. It’s a free gift. What can it hurt to accept it?
So, once again, the “progressives” have turned right and wrong upside down.
It isn’t that a woman’s reproductive system exists to bear and nurture children.
It exists to keep the woman young, healthy, and desireable.
So the “goal” isn’t really to treat any disorder - just a vain attempt to fight time.
And once again, they won’t pay attention to the victims...the innocent children who have become a commodity.
Isn’t it bizarre?
Here we have this so-called “war on women” because, apparently...a woman’s very survival and health depends on free contraception. So fertility is BAD.
We are also, simultaneously attempting to prolong women’s fertility indefinitely.
It’s like these scientists don’t go to the movies....this is a bad sci-fi/horror plot.
How will “natural” humans view the lab-grown humans?
If they can create eggs in the lab...can they design them according to order?
All sorts of scenarios stewing in my brain here.
Dean Koontz Frankenstein 3 book series will stop that stewing in your head and give you a snap shot of what could be.
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