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Why don't black Americans swim?
BBC News ^ | 7th April 2012 | Finlo Rohrer

Posted on 04/07/2012 2:43:19 PM PDT by the scotsman

'A month ago, six African-American teenagers drowned in a single incident in Louisiana, prompting soul-searching about why so many young black Americans can't swim.

When 15-year-old DeKendrix Warner accidentally stepped into deeper water while wading in the Red River in Shreveport, he panicked.

JaTavious Warner, 17, Takeitha Warner, 13, JaMarcus Warner, 14, Litrelle Stewart, 18, Latevin Stewart, 15, and LaDarius Stewart, 17, rushed to help him and each other.

None of them could swim. All six drowned. DeKendrix was rescued by a passer-by.

Maude Warner, mother of three of the victims, and the other adults present also couldn't swim.

The US has almost 3,500 accidental drownings every year, almost 10 a day. But according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the fatal drowning rate of African-American children aged five-14 is three times that of white children.

A recent study sponsored by USA Swimming uncovered equally stark statistics. Just under 70% of African-American children surveyed said they had no or low ability to swim. Low ability merely meant they were able to splash around in the shallow end. A further 12% said they could swim but had "taught themselves".

The study found 58% of Hispanic children had no or low swimming ability. For white children, the figure was only 42%.

"It is an epidemic that is almost going unnoticed," says Sue Anderson, director of programmes and services at USA Swimming.

The swimming body would like all children to be taught to swim.

"We would like it to be like seatbelts and bicycle helmets," says Ms Anderson.

But the situation in the US can vary hugely even within a single state.'

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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To: mylife

There’s nothing like being on the water. It’s so serene.


251 posted on 04/07/2012 5:48:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mylife

Mom swore by vinegar.. I spent a couple of summers smelling like a pickle.


252 posted on 04/07/2012 5:49:05 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: JudyinCanada

“Swimming lessons cost money. “

And many Black mothers would rather spend theirs on their hairdo and nails. Children are supposed to be taken care of by the school or the government.


253 posted on 04/07/2012 5:50:23 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Finny

Those were the days.

I was the tag along with my teen age sisters to the pool on Sunday afternoons.

They spent the afternoons flirting with boys and eating Banana Bikes.

I spent all my time in the water with the cute boys .. I was a tiny and thought it fun teaching me how to go off the high dive and daring me to swim across the pool underwater with 1 breath.


254 posted on 04/07/2012 5:51:57 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: the scotsman

Get on the wires, now we know how to take them down. Let the other cities know.


255 posted on 04/07/2012 5:57:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: the scotsman
Why don't black Americans swim?

I always assumed they just felt sorry for "whitey" and decided to leave one sport he could dominate.

256 posted on 04/07/2012 6:02:11 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: The Duke

Well...that an “curling”, of course!


257 posted on 04/07/2012 6:02:58 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: the scotsman

Its physiological to some degree

Facts like bone density, testosterone, cranial volume, muscle Displacement, heat tolerance or cold intolerance, birth canal differences

Etc that science ignores....

Not only ignores but will lie about and spend billions to fail to refute

There are races...finely and loosely

And they do differ

These truths are self evident.....all always have been


258 posted on 04/07/2012 6:04:22 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Twinkie

Donating just never hurt me

I`ve always been blessed with good health,service

connected injuries but good health

Sorry about your husbands health issues

Best wishes


259 posted on 04/07/2012 6:11:42 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: TASMANIANRED

That would lighten freckles.
I’d think that would be ouch on a sunburn.


260 posted on 04/07/2012 6:14:16 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Once you are in agony what’s a little more.


261 posted on 04/07/2012 6:15:53 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: mylife

Irish skin here too.

One of my kids(freckly redhead) married an Asian——the grandkids have wonderful skin.


262 posted on 04/07/2012 6:20:05 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Paladin2

;)... ...great minds...


263 posted on 04/07/2012 6:20:47 PM PDT by sit-rep
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To: ChocChipCookie

My mom grew up in a community that banned blacks from the municipal swimming pool because people were afraid the black would wash off and dye their kids. They were serious — and stupid.


264 posted on 04/07/2012 6:26:01 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: the scotsman
Why don't black Americans swim?

Because the Government-Education complex which raises most of them doesn't offer swimming in the curriculum.

265 posted on 04/07/2012 6:28:57 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I grew up in Detroit. I learned to swim in a pool at Patton Park. When I was a teenager, my posse and I rode the bus down to the municipal pools at Rouge Park. I remember there being plenty of black kids there but don’t remember if they swam or not.


266 posted on 04/07/2012 6:29:37 PM PDT by Ax
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To: happyhomemaker

My three kids are “sinkers.” They’re all adopted and all Asian. They also have no fat.

I never could teach any of them to float the way my mom taught me. We gave them swim lessons, but it was a struggle for the first two to learn the lessons in the order presented.

But they all swim now. My youngest somehow figured out how to swim underwater and that was the key for the older two learn. Maybe sinkers need to learn to swim underwater before they get up some enough speed to learn to swim on the surface.


267 posted on 04/07/2012 6:31:02 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Persevero

They’re afraid of water and drowning. The fear is passed down in families.

There are plenty of free public (often inner city) programs that encourage kids to learn to swim, particularly in summertime.

You can lead a horse to water (heh) but you can’t make him drink.


268 posted on 04/07/2012 6:33:06 PM PDT by freeagle
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To: the scotsman

IF you’re ever attacked by Holder’s people find the nearest body of water and start swimming. You’ll be safe there. Good to know.


269 posted on 04/07/2012 6:36:25 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: txrefugee

There are lots of free swimming programs to take care of this.


270 posted on 04/07/2012 6:36:51 PM PDT by freeagle
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Click!

271 posted on 04/07/2012 6:38:29 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Hot Tabasco
It's one thing to hang out and splash around in a public pool, it's a totally different thing to learn how to swim while you are there........parental guidance has nothing to do with it.

Parental guidance has everything to do with it. Hanging out and splashing around in the pool is hit and miss -- some kids will learn, if they go enough, but many won't. Mom has to get them there for the lessons, preferably when they're still small. But if mom is letting them raise themselves, and dad is nowhere to be found, that doesn't happen.

My daughters and their friends all learned in the pool, and were mostly taught by parents. Endless hours, most weekends during the summer, but by the time they were six, they were swimming pretty well. Still kept an eagle eye on them, of course, but by the time they're eight or nine they're pool safe. Most ghetto moms don't do that. They drop their kids at the pool to get them out of the house, and nature takes it course.

272 posted on 04/07/2012 6:39:46 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: Mears

My ethnic background is mostly Irish with some French. Back in ‘61, I was with a buddy at a flight outing at Lingayen Gulf in the Philippines. We walked for almost an hour under that fierce tropical sun. My buddy was a French kid from NH, with bright red hair and a body covered with freckles. I wore a t-shirt and the sun burned me right through the cotton. My buddy, who wore only swimming trunks, was burned to a crisp and was unable to work for about a week. He was authorized to wear shorts and shower clogs to work and for his trouble, he got an Article 15.


273 posted on 04/07/2012 6:43:11 PM PDT by Ax
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To: GreatRoad

“Do Africans swim in Africa?”

As little as possible.

Question: Why?

Answer: Crocs, hippos, parasites and diseases beyond counting.


274 posted on 04/07/2012 6:48:11 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: JudyinCanada

They can cost money, but here in Toronto the fees are either waived or drastically reduced for poor families. Also, many of the high schools here have pools and swimming sessions are part of the PE curriculum. Even in elementary school, a couple of times a year we were bused to pools for basic swimming lessons.


275 posted on 04/07/2012 6:59:57 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: sit-rep

Liquid water IS polar...........


276 posted on 04/07/2012 7:05:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: TASMANIANRED
I discovered aloe after I was an adult..

Me too. Not until I was in my mid 20s -- and it was growing wild all over the place, all during my lobster childhood!!!

277 posted on 04/07/2012 7:13:11 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent (By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.))
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To: ladyjane
"Top of the hill, get pushed downhill, go as far as you can and then crash. "

That's how I learned to ski! LOL

278 posted on 04/07/2012 7:13:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: TASMANIANRED
spent all my time in the water with the cute boys .. I was a tiny and thought it fun teaching me how to go off the high dive and daring me to swim across the pool underwater with 1 breath.

Soul sister!!! {^)

279 posted on 04/07/2012 7:15:50 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent (By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.))
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To: Finny

I keep it in the house.

I love to cook but can’t do it without burning myself.

Lots of pinched leaves.


280 posted on 04/07/2012 7:16:03 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Persevero

It absolutely is not a racist question but only a question of a statistical fact.

A a scuba instructor rarely did I have a black student. But when I did the checkout dives at the end of the class were the funniest thing.

Anybody else in the class would either drive themself to boat or have a family member take them and drop them off and pick them up upon the boats return EXCEPT if that person was black.

Then the whole family would pile onto the boat, dressed in their Sunday best to watch the “crazy” family member jump off it into the water.

This was NOT an isolated incident but every time I had a black student.


281 posted on 04/07/2012 7:16:51 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: diverteach

>> “This was NOT an isolated incident but every time I had a black student.” <<

.
You’re right.

Just go to the beach. How many black people do you see? I rarely see any.
.


282 posted on 04/07/2012 7:19:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Finny

Sounds like you had the soul of a sprite as well.


283 posted on 04/07/2012 7:28:35 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Ax

Just your description of your friend’s sunburn makes me hurt.

With a sunburn like his he couldn’t even lie down to sleep. I’ve had some bad ones but none that bad.

My mother hated the sun and never exposed herself to it and when she died at 91 her skin was like a 40 year old’s.She had warned me but————.


284 posted on 04/07/2012 7:30:37 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Harold Shea

I think because he had a sort of rare type of blood that they needed, they tended to call him in at too close intervals. Then when his strength flagged, they still kept calling him and he went on. It seemed odd to me how often they called him.


285 posted on 04/07/2012 7:38:37 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: mylife

Tail of the bell curve?

Statistical variation?

Strength and perseverance?

My friends in the Navy passed, they just had to work harder at it.


286 posted on 04/07/2012 7:45:11 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: JudyinCanada
Swimming lessons cost money.

Most cities have free swim lessons at their pools. The pools are swarming with black kids. They like to be in the water but a lot don't see a need to swim. You can give the damn white kids a hard time without swimming.

287 posted on 04/07/2012 7:48:15 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: the scotsman

Sooooo, let’s talk about polka music.


288 posted on 04/07/2012 8:03:35 PM PDT by familyop ("The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews." --President John Adams)
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To: the scotsman
Teaching a child to swim is the parents responsibility, not the governments. If black families aren't teaching their kids to swim that is their problem.

As for swimming lessons costing money, that is BS, you can't teach your child on your own without spending a dime, or get a friend to do it.

When I was growing up in Bell Gardens CA, there were public swimming pools all over the area(Bell, Southgate, Compton, all sh** holes today), we called them plunges and used them every summer and for parts of the winter. Most of the kids taught them selves to swim and taught their younger brothers and sisters to swim.

Although many blacks and mexicans(we didn't have hispanics then)lived in the area, very, very few of them ever came to the plunges. There was no discrimination, they simply were to busy terrifying the neighborhoods to go swimming.

289 posted on 04/07/2012 8:27:31 PM PDT by calex59
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To: SampleMan

According to the esteemed halls of academia, everything is caused by and results in white racism as you adroitly point out. To expound further, lets look at a simple chemistry problem(you know the answer so you get credit already.) When two molecules of hydrogen combine with one molecule of oxygen the resulting substance is : A, Water. B, helium. C, White racism. The answer of course is C.


290 posted on 04/07/2012 8:30:12 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: familyop
Brave Combo~ Hokey Pokey
291 posted on 04/07/2012 8:31:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: the scotsman
Same reason I could never walk up to a guy and just punch him in the face, and if I wasn't the one who got to cold-cock him I also couldn't take part in stripping him of all his belongings including his clothes.

ML/NJ

292 posted on 04/07/2012 9:43:28 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: the scotsman

It’s the not wanting to get their hair wet sine many spend hours getting it to do what they want it to do I’ve been told.


293 posted on 04/07/2012 9:53:21 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Revolting cat!

What about the Eskimo-Americans? Transgender-Americans? Wetback-Americans
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

well...obviously your last example swims just fine. Duh.


294 posted on 04/07/2012 10:35:46 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line)
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To: AbnSarge

Well, I’m white and I have never been able to float.

I’m one of those that sinks to the bottom of the pool and stays there if I try to do a back float or a dead man float. I have also always amazed people when they find out how much I weigh. I have always weighed 15-20 lbs more than I look. I can get my weight down to the point I look like a nazi concentration camp survivor but still be over weight according to the doctor charts, and I’ve done it. I used to run a lot of long distances and I was very very thin.

People have told me its my bones. Supposedly my bones are thick and have less than normal hollow space in them. But there is something different about my muscle too. My muscles are stronger than it seems they should be based on their size. I have always been able to match the strength of guys with much larger muscles than me.

I’m a white man that can’t jump OR swim.


295 posted on 04/07/2012 10:53:07 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line)
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To: the scotsman

I’m beginning to not really care lately.


296 posted on 04/07/2012 11:00:45 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

297 posted on 04/08/2012 1:31:34 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Josa

Race and genetics are contributing factors.

Less body fat and higher bone density do contribute the buoyancy of the human body. While all can be trained how to swim, beginning stages take more work for lean bodies with denser bones to tread water to remain afloat.

Additionally, water conducts heat far greater than air. The less fat layer on the skin allows the body to lose heat much quicker in the pool for the same muscular physiques.


298 posted on 04/08/2012 1:40:10 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

It is also difficult for many African Americans to keep their hair without extensive effort when they frequently wash it in chlorinated water.

There is a reason behind the black hair product market. One of the reasons hair styles such as ‘corn rows’ are popular is to lessen the risk of drying out their hair.


299 posted on 04/08/2012 1:49:48 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: mkleesma

Many such names come from Islamic writings, just as many white Americans are named from Biblical names. There also are many African Americans named after Biblical characters as well.


300 posted on 04/08/2012 2:14:37 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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