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The Right Flames the Volt
The New York Times ^ | April 8,2012 | JOE NOCERA

Posted on 04/08/2012 4:30:47 AM PDT by Hojczyk

It was Thursday morning and several dozen owners of the new Chevrolet Volt had gathered at a restaurant overlooking the East River. Across town, the New York International Auto Show was in full swing. The Volt, of course, is the innovative electric car from General Motors, and G.M. was using the occasion of the auto show to meet with Volt owners.

Between bites of eggs and bacon, the Volt owners gushed about how well the car drove — and how much gasoline they were saving. They were early adopters, of course, willing to pay a high price ($40,000 before a $7,500 tax credit) to get their hands on a new technology. Many of them had become nearly obsessed with avoiding the gas station; for those with short commutes, it could be months between fill-ups.

What is the connection between President Obama and the Volt? There is none. The car was the brainchild of Bob Lutz, a legendary auto executive who is about as liberal as the Koch brothers. The tax credit — which is part of the reason conservatives hate the car — became law during the Bush administration.

“It’s nuts,” said Lutz, when I spoke to him earlier in the week. “This is a significant achievement in the auto industry. There are so many legitimate things to criticize Obama about. It is inexplicable that the right would feel the need to tell lies about the Volt to attack the president.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 04/08/2012 4:30:51 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
If you cannot stomach the article... go to the comments.....they are the reason OBAMA may get reelected...it is GOP sucks Obama is great...GOP says Obama sucks Mittens is ?????? the people in this country cannot think????
2 posted on 04/08/2012 4:37:27 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Lies, eh....hmmmm.....like its annoying tendency to burst into flames, stuff like that?


3 posted on 04/08/2012 4:38:19 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Hojczyk

Tell me Mr Lutz, who is it that put the union over the share holders? Who is it that is wrecking the economy for a little bit of “green” innovation? And who is it that champions the O with their tribute, the Volt, at a price everyone can(’t) afford? Not to mention an infrastructure that could not support something like a volt if everyone was forced to buy it?... which may happen if the O gets a second term...


4 posted on 04/08/2012 4:42:32 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: dps.inspect

—“It’s nuts,” said Lutz,— He’s a putz!


5 posted on 04/08/2012 4:45:59 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Hojczyk
What's not to like about the Volt?

Each Chevy Volt sold thus far may have as much as $250,000 in state and federal dollars in incentives behind it – a total of $3 billion altogether, according to an analysis by James Hohman, assistant director of fiscal policy at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/16192

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Or how about this:

The Volt, which cost nearly $40,000 before a $7,500 federal tax credit, could take up to 27 years to pay off versus a Chevrolet Cruze, assuming it was regularly driven farther than its battery-only range allows.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/05/business/energy-environment/for-hybrid-and-electric-cars-to-pay-off-owners-must-wait.html?pagewanted=2

6 posted on 04/08/2012 4:51:46 AM PDT by zipper (espions sur les occupants)
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“...go to the comments...they are the reason OBAMA may get reelected...”

Yup. 55 % to 45 %. President Obama in 2013.

Women; brilliant, intellectual, really-really smart Independents; Che-Guevarra lovers; lovers of Progressivism; racist voters; college students who gush about the living, breathing Constitution; hardcore union members, etc., will push Mr. Obama over the top. (Not to mention Mickey and Minnie Mouse, Donald Duck, and all those zombies in the horror movies.)

IMHO


7 posted on 04/08/2012 4:55:31 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Hojczyk
When I see an 18 wheeler going across country on one charge give me a call. Or a pickup which can haul my 40 foot toy-hauler definitely call me.
8 posted on 04/08/2012 5:00:10 AM PDT by bikerman (you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
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To: ripley

Uuuuhhh, one group of “voters” I did not see on your list is the dead......just saying!


9 posted on 04/08/2012 5:15:23 AM PDT by jennings2004 (President Hayes, Mount Rushmore, telephone, Dear Leader...what a mix!)
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To: Hojczyk

The author apparently missed the point. The “right” did not particularly like Bush and opposed government subsidies for “green” boondoggles long before Obama met a guy in his neighborhood named Ayers.

The “right” viewed Bush as a damned sight better than those miserable poseurs, Gore or Kerry.


10 posted on 04/08/2012 5:24:51 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Queeg Olbermann: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them.)
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To: Hojczyk
The Right Flames the Volt

I was under the impression that one of the beauties of the Volt is that it's often self-flaming ? !


11 posted on 04/08/2012 5:29:02 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Hojczyk
According to my calendar, Friday was the end of the 5 week shutdown of Volt production. Has anyone seen any news of the triumphant resumption of this abomination Obamination?
12 posted on 04/08/2012 5:32:55 AM PDT by Thom Pain (OMG ABO Since 2009 ->USA = USC: United States of Chicago)
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13 posted on 04/08/2012 5:41:17 AM PDT by Zakeet (Obozo is to competent as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
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To: Hojczyk
A reporter for Fox News had been prowling the auto show, asking nasty questions about the Volt.

No bias here.

14 posted on 04/08/2012 5:44:43 AM PDT by capt. norm (Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never run out of material. c)
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To: Hojczyk

Race card.
Victim card.
etc.

We have 300MM Americans. How can the small motivated Right - affect eh purchasing power of the Obama majority?

It will be like this from the media 24/7 for the next 7 months - lies, fabrications, etc. They know they have no credibility with rational people. They want the irrational vote.


15 posted on 04/08/2012 5:49:43 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Hojczyk

Personal note.....

About three weeks ago as I was departing Knoxville in my Sprinter on I 40 east, in the center lane at about 74 mph, a car zipped by me on the right. It was a Volt! I accelerated to get a better view and to snap a photo but couldn’t keep up. Alas my van is computer regulated to a top in of 82 mph.

The volt had Tennessee commercial tags, unusual for cars and almost exclusive to trucks or vans. The Volt turned off onto I 40 toward Asheville and I continued along to I 81. Past the I 81 turnoff are the mountains and nothing much till Ashevile. The driver cruising in excess of 75 had confidence in his 40 mile range I guess because just past the turnoff there is neither gas nor juice


16 posted on 04/08/2012 5:50:29 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Hojczyk
The Volt, of course, is the innovative electric car from General Motors...

No, it is not innovative. Perhaps the NYTs writers need a dictionary? Actually, the NYT needs a lot more than a dictionary if they'd like to be considered journalists but one small step at a time:

in·no·va·tive/ˈinəˌvātiv/
Adjective:

(of a product, idea, etc.) Featuring new methods; advanced and original.
(of a person) Introducing new ideas; original and creative in thinking: "an innovative thinker".

However, the volt uses fairly standard hybrid technology in terms of battery chemistry, being a gas-electric mix, engine technology etc. The only significant difference between it and other hybrids is the mix of gas/electric. The volt tips towards being primarily an electrical car with gasoline backup, while say a prius is primarily a gasoline car with electrical augmentation. More of an engineering tradeoff decision than any thing truly "innovative."

...Between bites of eggs and bacon, the Volt owners...

A not-so-subtle attempt to make volt owners sound like everyone else? I don't know anyone that can drop 40K on a toy car.

What is the connection between President Obama and the Volt? There is none.

Was he on the design team? No. Is he on the marketing team? H*** yes! hussein has been pushing "green" energy and using the volt as a poster child. We all know (now) that most of his green energy initiatives are mere fronts - slush funds to funnel political payoffs to cronies. The volt promotion he has done (and continues to do) is more of the same to the unions at GM. Is there a connection between the volt and hussein - you better believe it. hussein forged that himself.

17 posted on 04/08/2012 6:07:31 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Hojczyk

Joe Nocera is a left-wing idiot. He’s the new Frank Rich.


18 posted on 04/08/2012 6:12:33 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: RightOnline
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19 posted on 04/08/2012 6:19:07 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Hojczyk
question: i know rechargeable batteries not run down to near zero can develop a "memory" that when ask to go beyond the point they are normally recharged at, if it's say 50%, act like it's dead, the LAZY battery effect.

i wonder if this holds true for the Volt as well

20 posted on 04/08/2012 6:32:31 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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>>“It’s nuts,” said Lutz,

Nuts?



"U.S. Unlikely To Recoup GM Bailout, Panel Says "

 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704803604576078501503246420.html


21 posted on 04/08/2012 6:33:21 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

>>I don't know anyone that can drop 40K on a toy car.

George H.W. Bush Buys Chevy Volt for Son’s Birthday

http://cleantechnica.com/2012/04/07/george-bush-chevy-volt-son-houston/

Just more crap in the elitist sandwich from Mr. New World Order & Co.

22 posted on 04/08/2012 6:39:52 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Hojczyk

Lutz is in the right place with GM. Anyone who buys a MIG-17 and lands at Willow Run forgetting to put the wheels down deserves to work for GM. Not sure who he was with at the time though it’s been a few years.


23 posted on 04/08/2012 6:49:53 AM PDT by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: jennings2004

“Uuuuhhh, one group of “voters” I did not see on your list is the dead...just saying!”

The dead are included among those zombies from the horror movies who make it to the polls.

Just saying. (lol)


24 posted on 04/08/2012 7:16:49 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Hojczyk
If you cannot stomach the article... go to the comments.....they are the reason OBAMA may get reelected...it is GOP sucks Obama is great...GOP says Obama sucks Mittens is ?????? the people in this country cannot think????

Mittens does suck and will be a complete and total disasters as the nominee.

I can't support him. It's someone else or obama wins.

End of story.

25 posted on 04/08/2012 7:28:02 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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I have been reading about the Spanish Armada and how the British used fire ships. Maybe there’s a place for the Volt as a weapon. Put them in Afghanistan, and when they catch fire, roll them into a house.


26 posted on 04/08/2012 7:51:04 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Hojczyk
It was Thursday morning and several dozen owners of the new Chevrolet Volt had gathered at a restaurant overlooking the East River.

So how does such a gathering come to take place?

Are there already Volt Clubs? I haven't even seen one on the road that I know of. For many years I owned an MG. We used to flash our lights at each other when we saw one-another, but I never got together with any of these other MG owners for breakfast.

ML/NJ

27 posted on 04/08/2012 8:01:10 AM PDT by ml/nj
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If you cannot stomach the article... go to the comments.....they are the reason OBAMA may get reelected.

I don't think it means anything. I used to be a religious Times reader. Now I almost never look at it. It's not really a newspaper. It's more like a big newsletter put out by the DNC, so sure the DNC member commenters are going to say the stupid things.

I see the Times finally commented on the "homework" assignment the Fifth Circuit Court gave the Obama Administration. I wonder if Times readers were at all mystified why they didn't know such an assignment had been given, or given the required brevity of the response demanded, the Times didn't think it was important to quote the whole thing.

The NY Times is an absolute joke, and a disgrace too.

ML/NJ

28 posted on 04/08/2012 8:21:21 AM PDT by ml/nj
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For around the same sticker as the Dolt, you can have one of these:

444 HP - with no turbo/forced induction

7,500 RPM redline (stable to 8,400)

0-60 3.93 seconds

1/4 mile: 12.3 seconds @ 115.8 MPH

Capable of 1+ lateral G

29 posted on 04/08/2012 9:03:46 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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Better still, give Chevy Volts to Taliban fighters. When they get in the car to go for a drive-by shooting, the doors lock, the car catches fire, and the Taliban are incinerated in their car. This does have a certain symmetry to it.
30 posted on 04/08/2012 10:21:31 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Hojczyk
The tax credit — which is part of the reason conservatives hate the car — became law during the Bush administration. “It’s nuts,” said Lutz, when I spoke to him earlier in the week. “This is a significant achievement in the auto industry. There are so many legitimate things to criticize Obama about. It is inexplicable that the right would feel the need to tell lies about the Volt to attack the president.”

The writer is clueless. I am boycotting GM forever because of the corrupt bailout in which centuries of common law, contract law, and bankruptcy law were ignored to give GM assets to well-connected liberal groups, such as the UAW, at the expense of the bondholders who were legally and morally entitled to be paid far more than they received. This was a disgusting crime, and I find the idea of benefiting from such an act repulsive. All decent people should be outraged and should avoid all GM products forever.

As for the Volt in particular, it's such a terrible imitation of a real vehicle that in an honest world it would have stayed as a concept car until the engineers made it practical. None of this has anything to do with Obama personally. While I despise Obama and see signs of national socialism rather than his usual soviet socialism in his dealings with the auto industry, my objection to GM and to the Volt is moral rather than political.

31 posted on 04/08/2012 12:03:25 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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