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'Just call the police,' (SAnford) mom of shot teen tells witnesses
Orlando Sentinel ^ | Arelis R. Hernández

Posted on 04/08/2012 8:58:58 AM PDT by Gritty

Edited on 04/08/2012 1:48:00 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

SANFORD — Vickie Little stayed up a bit longer than she usually did Sunday night watching television and slipped into a slumber.

Her sleep was punctuated by a knock at her door from police officers who had found her 17-year-old son collapsed on the street from a gunshot wound just a block away from their new home.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: sanford; shooting; trayvon
Where are Jesse and Al?

Where are the ransoms for the shooter(s)?

1 posted on 04/08/2012 8:59:04 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: Gritty
Where are the ransoms for the shooter(s)?

ransoms?

2 posted on 04/08/2012 9:05:06 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Gritty

For black shooters there is a aura of invincibility because of the press. It is only going to get worse.


3 posted on 04/08/2012 9:06:21 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
ransoms?

Ooops! That should be "bounties". More coffee, please!

4 posted on 04/08/2012 9:07:07 AM PDT by Gritty (On a long jog in the hour before dawn, San Francisco reminded me of Calcutta - Ralph Peters)
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To: Gritty

Where’s the skittles and AZ Ice T? If not for those items there would be no news. Product placement?


5 posted on 04/08/2012 9:08:07 AM PDT by rktman
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To: Gritty
*** 2 a.m. Monday when someone inside a vehicle drove up behind him and opened fire.
*** 30 shots were fired at 2:20 a.m. Wednesday at a crowd of people

Two incidents, both around 2am on weekdays. Doesn't anyone sleep anymore? Don't people have to get up to go to school or work anymore?
6 posted on 04/08/2012 9:17:39 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

They don’t go to school and they don’t work regular hours. Gangbangers and other assorted criminal scum commit their killings at night and sell their dope and other activities during the day and early evening, after sleeping in during morning hours. At least that’s what I’ve observed in my city. Drive through the ghetto from around 4am to around noon, not much going on. That’s the time you can drive thru the ‘hood in relative safety, relative being the operative word.


7 posted on 04/08/2012 9:22:27 AM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: Gritty
#1 - Zimmmerman DID call the police.

#2 - How about parents teach the little thugs in training not to start smacking the crap out of everyone when they get mad?
8 posted on 04/08/2012 9:26:28 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Gritty

Since the media was so intent upon telling us the race of the ‘white-hispanic’ Zimmerman, seems to me they ought to tell us the race of Jamison and those in his neighborhood who know who did the shooting and are protecting the assailants.


9 posted on 04/08/2012 9:29:35 AM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: Tzimisce

Don’t dis da bros bro.

(Which is what I think happened to Zimmerman. Martin didn’t wanna be dissed especially with his girlfriend on the phone. He had to be a man.)


10 posted on 04/08/2012 9:32:36 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (God is dead - William Hamilton....William Hamilton is dead - God (And he means it))
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To: Gritty

The investigator, Trekelle? Why does the media not have this guy on talking about the senseless killings?

There needs to be some kind of martial law. But only where the problems are. Make the kids go home by dark and arrest all those who aren’t.


11 posted on 04/08/2012 9:35:08 AM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: Gritty

Young man who was shot must be white - which doesn’t count with the DOJ.


12 posted on 04/08/2012 9:36:02 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: oh8eleven
Don't people have to get up to go to school or work anymore?

You hit the nail on the head! No need to do that if the checks keep rolling in.

13 posted on 04/08/2012 9:42:08 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Gritty

Had mom imposed a reasonable curfew on a school night, I doubt Jamison would have encountered the same fate.


14 posted on 04/08/2012 9:46:51 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("Your money or your life" has been the Dems unwritten motto for a long time)
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To: winkadink
Young man who was shot must be white - which doesn’t count with the DOJ.

Nope, the young man is black, and has himself identified the shooter as black.

The problem is with the black community, which holds that an innocent black victim is worthless if the perp is black, but the most vile black thug is the most valuable person on the planet, if his intended white victim manages to turn the tables.

The DOJ policy is "snitches get stitches".

15 posted on 04/08/2012 9:50:06 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Gritty
Pretty sad watching this mother beg for people to come forward.People are too scared to talk but it is funny, Easter Bunnies can ticket people for no seat belt but a witness to a shooting can't feel safe.

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16 posted on 04/08/2012 10:03:18 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Gritty

With due regard for my incipient paranoia, it does seem like a coordinated effort to start race war ahead of the election.


17 posted on 04/08/2012 10:11:30 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: john drake
Drive through the ghetto from around 4am to around noon, not much going on.
I'm originally from NYC .... a few years ago we drove to NYC and went through Harlem about 5 in the morning.
My brother-in-law says, "This place don't look so bad." LOL ...
18 posted on 04/08/2012 10:14:09 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Irenic
>"Easter Bunnies can ticket people for no seat belt but a witness to a shooting can't feel safe."

Crime doesn't pay.

Traffic violators do!

19 posted on 04/08/2012 10:33:48 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Gritty

It's Ebonic for "omerta".

20 posted on 04/08/2012 10:39:12 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Queeg Olbermann: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them.)
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To: oh8eleven

Two incidents, both around 2am on weekdays. Doesn’t anyone sleep anymore? Don’t people have to get up to go to school or work anymore?


You so funny !!!!!!!


21 posted on 04/08/2012 11:02:06 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: rawcatslyentist

True but they have time for the unOccupied crowd.

But I guess the unOccupied benefit some political agendas— so the police must babysit at the pleasure of these politicians?

What do taxes pay for? Nothing is ever used for what it is intended.

Sad state of affairs....


22 posted on 04/08/2012 11:04:51 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: oh8eleven
My understanding is that Harlem is nothing like it used to be...it has been somewhat "gentrified".

In fact, crime in Manhattan is very low compared to a couple decades ago. Chicago, though, is another story...

23 posted on 04/08/2012 11:05:31 AM PDT by what's up
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To: oh8eleven

They were involved in some of Clinton’s midnight basketball games!


24 posted on 04/08/2012 11:10:14 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Tzimisce

The problem is, they will not teach their kids not to smack the crap out of others when they get mad, because that is what THEY THEMSELVES DO when they get mad.

I believe the only policy left to deal with the blacks in this country is containment while they murder each other off. As a general group, they are extremely violent, they believe their anger allows them to murder other people without punishment, that any questioning of them is racist harassment and requires physical retaliation, and they are entitled to everyone else’s money via government redistribution and flash mobs stealing everything in sight from stores is totally okay for them to do. And they are continuing to teach their kids it’s okay to do.


25 posted on 04/08/2012 11:21:20 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Gritty

Black on black crime. I’m not supposed to notice it lest I dis someone. Kinda like blacks calling each other ‘nigger’, but I cant join in on the fun because I’m not one??

Its not that I dont care but I have been left with little choice.


26 posted on 04/08/2012 11:24:07 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I believe the only policy left to deal with the blacks in this country is containment while they murder each other off. As a general group, they are extremely violent, they believe their anger allows them to murder other people without punishment, that any questioning of them is racist harassment and requires physical retaliation, and they are entitled to everyone else’s money via government redistribution and flash mobs stealing everything in sight from stores is totally okay for them to do. And they are continuing to teach their kids it’s okay to do.

That is the kind of statement that will be repeated outside the context of the discussion as an example to prove that FR is a racist forum. Though it does apply to a percentage (probably a substantial percentage) of the black population, tarring all with the same brush is no more right than "Reverends" Jackson/Sharpton/Farrakhan/Wright potraying us whites as the devil incarnate.

Regrettably, the black community has not been taught the old saying "if the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it".

27 posted on 04/08/2012 12:24:24 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Irenic
Witness intimidation is a regular factor in the “hood”. There's always a chance the other gang members will retaliate. What the media has been providing is another reason not to cooperate with law enforcement and, by locating and publicizing the names of witnesses, they're acting as thug enablers.

In my neighborhood, Hispanic kids with knife wounds show up at the hospital ER almost every weekend. Sometimes, their friends just dump them in the parking lot and leave. They very rarely “know” who stabbed them, or why, and getting the right identity for them is always problematic. When they die, though, there's no shortage of family members claiming little Juan was a good boy who never had any involvement with gangs.

28 posted on 04/08/2012 1:06:35 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

When they die, though, there’s no shortage of family members claiming little Juan was a good boy who never had any involvement with gangs.
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No kidding...

*snip*
This morning his father, John, told Today he didn’t agree with the gang’s defence lawyers, who claim they were good boys who made a mistake.

He said: ‘It sounds like they’re making excuses and trying to make light of the situation. It wasn’t like they were a group of kids that went out and did some property damage - they almost took someone’s life.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009096/Teenage-victim-Carter-Strange-talks-lynching-attack-time.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2008252/Teenage-gang-charged-lynching-law-savage-attack-18-year-old-student.html


29 posted on 04/08/2012 2:21:08 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: JimRed
From an earlier post on another thread:

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I am reminded that Noah Webster in 1833 noticed: ”There are two powers only, sufficient to control men and secure the rights of individuals and a peaceable administration; these are the combined force of religion and law and the force or fear of the bayonet.”

In 1849 Robert Charles Winthrop in a speech before the Mass. Bible Society expounded on what Mr. Webster had taught-

“Men in a word must necessarily be controlled either by a power within them, or a power without them; Either by the Word of God, or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or by the bayonet.”

As a people we were once understood to be both Moral and Religious. And George Washington and many other recognized the fundamental principles of Religion, Morality and Knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind. (Twice codified in the Northwest Ordinance)

What we have seen in the these reports from the Presidents own City of Chicago (where his political aspirations were honed) is evidence of what we as a people chose—when we decided to accept a secular nation and rejected the religion and morality President John Adams said our Constitution was made only for. When righteousness rules the nation is happy.
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This really struck home with me. With the loss of GOD in the hearts of Americans, we have become no more than animals, only fit to be controlled like the animals we have become. This is what the left knew and why they have pushed so hard to remove God from America. What's left is only fit to enslave and control (to their benefit). We had been warned, and didn't heed, so now we face the fruits of our indifference and inaction...

30 posted on 04/08/2012 4:40:47 PM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: JimRed

I said as a general group. There are exceptions of course. But generally speaking common sense and crime statistics validate a containment course of action because they are self-destructing as a race. If they would actually try to change things instead of blaming everyone else for their self-inflicted problems I would suggest a different alternative.


31 posted on 04/08/2012 7:17:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: john drake

In the late 80’s and early 90’s I worked with a guy that owned a repossession company in southern California.

We repossessed a lot of cars in the Watts, South Central, Boyle Heights and Whittier/La Puente areas. We are both white so just going into these neighborhoods at night was risky.

We would scout the area for the car we were looking for. If we found it we would go find a restaurant to wait at until 3-5 AM. Then it was safe to go get the car. We got paid $150-300 per car, (depending on the finance company we were working for), and on a decent weekend we would repossess up 20 cars.

We had a few close calls, but our SOP was that it was not worth getting hurt to repo a car, so if it got dicey, we just left. We could always get it on another day.


32 posted on 04/08/2012 8:03:34 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I said as a general group. There are exceptions of course.

You are right, but when it is repeated as an example of racism those parts will be omitted. And darned few of those who see it will search up the original looking for context.

The old racial double standard is alive and well, unfortunately.

33 posted on 04/09/2012 7:12:00 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

Amen.


34 posted on 04/09/2012 7:17:55 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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