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Is Some Homophobia Self-phobia?
University of Rochester ^ | April 5, 2012 | Susan Hagen

Posted on 04/08/2012 3:20:59 PM PDT by EveningStar

Homophobia is more pronounced in individuals with an unacknowledged attraction to the same sex and who grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires, a series of psychology studies demonstrates.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: anotherstudy; homophiles; homophobia; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; pseudoscience; psychobabble; romneysucks; thisthreadisgay; troll
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To: EveningStar

Personally, I always thought that this line of reasoning is inherently anti-gay. If this is implying that those who are outspoken about opposing homosexuality are actually self-loathing homosexuals, then they are saying that a significant percentage of homosexuals are self-loathing. That’s really a different form of gay bashing.

It doesn’t surprise me at all, though. Liberals typically do this. If somebody used the word “fag” in college, then they would use this argument because they thought it would shame the “homophobe.” Of course, if they were correct, it would mean they were shaming a self-loathing repressed homosexual. They didn’t think that far. This is more of the same stage one thinking.


51 posted on 04/08/2012 4:46:28 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: EveningStar
i don't think most people who find queers disgusting are afraid of them, homo-loathe would be more appropriate...
52 posted on 04/08/2012 4:53:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: EveningStar

I am NOT and have NOT ever been Homophobic. I do beyond a shadow of a doubt have a SERIOUS case of HOMONAUSIA!!!!!


53 posted on 04/08/2012 4:57:18 PM PDT by PushinTin (Politicians are like diapers, the need to be changed often and for the same reason...)
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To: EveningStar

That’s because they think any opposition to gay sex is irrational. That there is no reasonable argument against it. Never mind that both Freud and Jung thought of both homosexuality and homophobia as neurotic.


54 posted on 04/08/2012 5:05:26 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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Clever psychological tactics that aim to have individuals question their instincts.


55 posted on 04/08/2012 5:10:36 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: EveningStar

I did not even know what “homosexual” was until the end of high school when the dyke girls gym teacher insisted on showering with the senior girls and was messing with them.

I told my mom it felt creepy and asked her why the lady was showering with the girls. That night my dad lowered the boom about the truth of what was going on with her problem. She was not in school after that. I was totally grossed out. Still am.


56 posted on 04/08/2012 5:11:22 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: EveningStar

Arachnophobia is a fear of spiders, so homophobia is (by the correct definition) a fear of homosexuals. I’ve know a number of professed homos, but I’ve never been afraid of one. I think the mass (hysteria) media is trying to redefine what is a phobia, just as they’re trying to redefine what is marriage.


57 posted on 04/08/2012 5:13:19 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: EveningStar
Do man-hating lesbian feminazis secretly want a man to ravish them?

Do Al Qaeda and Taliban zealots secretly want to practice Christianity (or, horrors, Judaism)?

Do avowed Marxist, occupiers secretly want to be part of the 1%?

Do the most vile sounding posters on DU and Daily Kos harbor conservative leanings?

58 posted on 04/08/2012 5:14:45 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: EveningStar

In my 60 years I have never met anybody with an irrational fear of homosexuals. In fact I’ve never met anybody with a rational fear either. I’ve met plenty of people who don’t approve of the acts homosexuals choose to engagae in but then again I’ve met plenty of people who disapprove of acts I’ve engaged in. Like teaching my grandchildren to shoot guns. Would those who disapprove of my lessons be considered Rugerphobic?


59 posted on 04/08/2012 5:18:53 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Breto; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
How is it my comment to this poster who insinuated this is becoming a pro homo site and was going to leave, I responded by saying I hope the door slams you in the A$$ on the way out gets pulled?

WTF?

Is this bcoming a pro hom site....Jim?

60 posted on 04/08/2012 5:21:50 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: EveningStar

That might explain those who are afraid of queers, but it doesn’t explain the disgust & revulsion of the rest of us.


61 posted on 04/08/2012 5:27:16 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: EveningStar

Who is afraid of homosexuals? Most people’s objections are moral and medical....not based on fear.

Rule 1: homosexuals do not reproduce, they recruit.


62 posted on 04/08/2012 5:27:25 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Ouderkirk

This reminds me of that show “Fear Factor”, where they challenged people to eat weird gross stuff every episode.

That’s not even consistent with the title, which more accurately should have been “Gross Out Factor”.


63 posted on 04/08/2012 5:36:54 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft Palin VP!)
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To: EveningStar

I think we should get out our shovels. I guarantee you that they decided what they wanted the outcome to be than structured the study to give them what they wanted to read. Manipulating data to verify a preconceived belief is not new in academia but I believe it has become more prevalent in recent years. Everything is agenda driven.


64 posted on 04/08/2012 5:37:49 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance

Liberals subvert everything.

Education was dumbed down.

Our media become propagandists.

Now our once mighty American science, has become play acting.


65 posted on 04/08/2012 5:39:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft Palin VP!)
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To: EveningStar

Just because I find the idea of two guys sticking their privates up each other’s butts disgusting doesn’t make me homophobic.

I find the idea of sheep sodomy equally disgusting. Does that make me bestiality-phobic?


66 posted on 04/08/2012 5:41:51 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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Click


67 posted on 04/08/2012 5:42:35 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: EveningStar

no question some fags hate themselves...especially if there is an R after their name

creeps


68 posted on 04/08/2012 5:56:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: EveningStar

STFU.


69 posted on 04/08/2012 6:00:55 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: Chainmail

Gays have this thing of wanting everybody else to be gay ~ guess they imagine that will make finding dates easier.


70 posted on 04/08/2012 6:19:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EveningStar

Is all psychobabble bs?


71 posted on 04/08/2012 6:21:50 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: EveningStar

Yawn. Same bogus “social science” claptrap we’ve heard from liberal academia pushing an agenda forever.


72 posted on 04/08/2012 6:28:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EveningStar

If the alleged same sex attraction is there, but unacknowledged, then how can they even know it is there?

You can say anything unacknowleged is there. It’s a baseless assertion.


73 posted on 04/08/2012 6:29:03 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: muawiyah

...Gays have this thing of wanting everybody else to be gay...

So correct, to the point that they will molest others to try and make converts. I’m willing to bet that most homophobia results from molestation or attempted molestation, and it is clearly justified.


74 posted on 04/08/2012 6:31:01 PM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Strategerist

“I don’t get where that much energy comes from”

The word of God? The Bible calls homosexuality an “abomination,” and those who practice it “dogs” (not a nice pet friendly term. The dogs of Scripture are ravenous, biting, poop eating horrors).

If God calls it an abomination, I’m not going to argue.

It is a sin that perverts everything around it.


75 posted on 04/08/2012 6:31:24 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

“Exactly!! “Phobia” means fear. I doubt there are many in here who are fearful of homosexuals — but there are many who do know the difference between right and wrong, safe and dangerous.”

Dittos, I am not in the least bit frightened by homosexuals. I just refuse to pretend it is ok or acceptable behavior. It isn’t.


76 posted on 04/08/2012 6:34:26 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Jim Robinson

I certainly agree about Godless liberals. For me, though, Jim, “homophobia” is a stupid word. It means fear of homosexuality. I’m not afraid of homosexuality. I think it’s unnatural, unclean behavior kills people.

Is there a word for “rejecting homosexuality”?


77 posted on 04/08/2012 6:38:30 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: muawiyah
"Gays have this thing of wanting everybody else to be gay ~ guess they imagine that will make finding dates easier."

That is the truth. The homosexuals I've known, both in the workplace and my former hairstylist, fantasized that every other person they knew was really gay, and just hiding it.

78 posted on 04/08/2012 6:48:00 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: jeffc

Except it is not.

homo- is the Greek prefix meaning “same.”

There is a Greek word arsenokoitai - it should probably be called arsenokoitophobia. (botanai = “pasture” becomes “botanophobia.” Sadly, English professors have led the way in debasing the language.

Also self-fear is autophobia.


79 posted on 04/08/2012 6:50:44 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: xzins; Persevero
“homophobia” is a stupid word. It means fear of homosexuality. I’m not afraid of homosexuality. I think it’s unnatural, unclean behavior kills people.

You know, I wonder if the homos coined the word homophobia to attempt to impart to it a power which it otherwise wouldn't have. In other words, to imply that a homophobic was suffering from an irrational fear of their perversion, which would automatically give them a position of superiority over the "normal" (i.e. homophobic) people. Just a thought.

80 posted on 04/08/2012 7:06:35 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (Newt's not a perfect candidate but Jesus isn't running this year. - shoff)
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To: EveningStar

“Homophobia” is a fake term, so any article beginning with this false premise is not worth 2 seconds to read it.


81 posted on 04/08/2012 7:08:47 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: Chainmail

“Homophobia” is a catch phrase mixing Latin and Greek that means “fear of man”.

Well... it may be all Greek or Franken-word. Greek “homos” means `the same’, as in homosexuality. “Phobia” of course means `fear’, implying irrational fear. But “homo” is just a slang term for queers. But if one applies literal cognates and not just slang, then “homophobia” literally means, “fear of those who have exactly the same qualities as oneself”.

So I guess I’m not a “homophobe”, that is, I’m not afraid of others who are heterosexual conservative God-fearing gun owners.


82 posted on 04/08/2012 7:33:31 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: EveningStar

Maybe I can tell you what I think once I stop laughing so hard!


83 posted on 04/08/2012 7:40:32 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: EveningStar
Most homophobia is not fear ("phobia") at all -- rather disgust, loathing, despising, abhorrence -- or, even, hate.

My observation is that most people called, "homophobes" by homosexuals truthfully are repelled by queers and their lifestyle -- but do not "fear" them at all.

"Homophobia": almost as egregious a misnomer as "Gay"...

84 posted on 04/08/2012 7:42:08 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Breto; Las Vegas Ron

Free Republic is 100% opposed to the homosexual agenda.


85 posted on 04/08/2012 7:42:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: EveningStar
Is Some Homophobia Self-phobia?

Only if your name's Dick, Peter, Rod, Willie, or Wang.
86 posted on 04/08/2012 7:46:47 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: EveningStar

The term ‘homophobia’ manifests the perverse thinking of homosexuals.

When used as a childish taunt, they fully recognize a large percentage of the audience so labeled will never acquiesce to homosexuality or condone their behavior or thinking. To that group of normal people, the homosexual in open rebellion simply seeks to throw a verbal insult with impunity. They could care less if it is true or not,..just something they can claim to win or make a draw from a verbal altercation. (The same way an effeminate homosexual attempts to win an argument.)

Another audience receiving the label by homosexuals, as ‘homophobes’, are those who are sincerely conscientiously seeking a resolution of conflict between the perverted homosexual lifestyle and normalcy, but rather than becoming adversarial or dogmatic against homosexuality, are likely to become lukewarm in their acceptance of such criminal behavior. To the homosexual, such an audience becomes less of a threat to their homosexual lifestyle by attacking them first, and overcoming any willpower to oppose the homosexual agenda. It’s basically an offensive tactic to cause their adversary to become defensive. Once defensive, the homosexual then attempts to claim equality with heterosexual behavior with an additional arrogant appearance of insolence. It lessens opposition to their political agenda, and possibly may even open doors to attract sexual victims to their agendas.

Another group the their audience to be so labeled, are indeed week willed people who really don’t know what homosexuality means, implies, or why it has historically been criminal through human history. That weak willed group is also likely to become future fodder for the homosexual recruitment campaign. When the mantra of ‘homophobia’ is repeated enough, even those who fall victim of homosexual advances, later fear repercussions from either heterosexuals or homosexuals, and their personal testimony of the inherent degenerate nature of homosexuality is less likely to be brought into public light, avoiding public scrutiny.

In a nutshell, only sexually immoral people condone the term ‘homophobia’, which promotes more ignorance of degenerate criminal sexual immorality. An academic institution favoring the term simply manifests its promotion of ignorance and lack of subjectivity in reporting actual phenomenon.


87 posted on 04/08/2012 8:06:45 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: EveningStar
So, if I hold a viewpoint that murder is morally wrong, it means I want to kill somebody?

Stuff and nonsense created to transfer guilt and blame from the person doing things forbidden by God to the upright person who takes the stand that it is wrong.

88 posted on 04/08/2012 8:24:16 PM PDT by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: EveningStar

Where one likes to stick one’s whacker for fun is one of the least interesting or important things about a person.


89 posted on 04/08/2012 8:28:36 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Hope springs eternal - maybe the Bucs will break .500 this year)
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To: EveningStar
..."Individuals who identify as straight but in psychological tests show a strong attraction to the same sex...every reputable clinician knows there are no such tests which can reliably detect some sort of hidden attraction to the same or opposite sex, for that matter - just more examples of social scientists finding what their prejudices made them set out to find........
90 posted on 04/08/2012 9:31:27 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

“I’m willing to bet that most homophobia results from molestation or attempted molestation, and it is clearly justified.”

Yes, and same-sex attraction disorder results from molestation or seduction in the pre-adult years. Maybe it’s counterintuitive, but young people can be traumatized into something as well as out of it.


91 posted on 04/08/2012 9:44:19 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: EveningStar

Because I find these fairies sick, demented, disgusting, perverted and mentally ill, somehow I am a phobic and I want to be gay!!?? LMAO....

These people, and anyone that agrees with this junk, are as sick as the faggots themselves.


92 posted on 04/08/2012 9:47:52 PM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: EveningStar

Self-identified homosexuals’ heterophobia stems from abuse from an older member of the same sex, difficulty with their parents and members of the opposite sex, and a self-loathing of “breeders”.

This study sounds like pure projection.


93 posted on 04/08/2012 9:50:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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Be sure to click the FreeRepublic homosexual agenda keyword search link for a list of all related articles. We don't ping you to all related articles so be sure to click the previous link to see the latest articles.

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94 posted on 04/08/2012 10:06:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.; Jim Robinson; EveningStar; Strategerist; All
Free Republic is 100% opposed to the homosexual agenda.

Bravo.

Where one likes to stick one’s whacker for fun is one of the least interesting or important things about a person.

Your lame attempt at profundity is both disingenuous and at polar odds with everything Free Republic stands for. Why do you persist in advancing viewpoints in this forum which are contrary to the clearly-expressed "God and family" orientation of this site?

And, by the way, you manifestly WOULD care if your teenage daughter's teacher "liked to stick one’s whacker for fun" in teenage girls, or if your son's swim coach desired the same for underage boys, or if your best friend fantasized self-same about your wife. To pretend otherwise is utterly facetious.

Where one "likes to stick one’s whacker for fun" can actually be one of the most important things that you would want to know about a person, and kindly do not pretend otherwise. Free Republic is 100% opposed to the homosexual agenda.

95 posted on 04/08/2012 10:36:26 PM PDT by tjd1454
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To: EveningStar
Read your Bible.
You don't tolerate homosexuals, you don't talk to homosexuals, you totally cut them off.
96 posted on 04/08/2012 10:52:28 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: EveningStar
I'm sure you know that this argument is frequently used by gay advocates, so I don't know how much stock I should put in this article. What do you think?

One would have to first buy into the premise that homophobia even exists. This 'study' accepts the fallacy hook line and sinker and then goes on to 'prove' a generalization, one of the reasons; it does this 'proving' by subjectively questioning and testing a sample of 160 students and from this population determining subjectively which students are secretly latent homosexuals.

This 'study' and its results are pure liberal humanistic psycho babble garbage.

The article deserves a mega big barf alert.

97 posted on 04/09/2012 5:13:10 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: elcid1970
Your Greek may be a bit faulty.. "Homos" doesn't mean "same" in Greek.

My central thesis stays the same: if someone sees their same sex as sexually stimulating (or animals or dead things or little kids) their brain is broken.

I don't mean harm to anybody but there should be a recognition that this is a serious mental condition and treatment should be sought.

Meanwhile, I would hope we'd get a real leader who would keep them out of my Marine Corps.

98 posted on 04/09/2012 5:20:53 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Chainmail

Hmm...I’ll have to do some research, I thought `homos’ & `heteros’ came from the Greek.

Somebody once said that while homosexuality & sexual deviancy can’t be eliminated, they should at least be relegated back to the gutter where they belong. Mainstreaming of these evil tendencies is ruinous to a society, as if there isn’t plenty of historical evidence.

I retired from the Army a year ago so I didn’t have to hear the latest mandatory classes aka brainwashing about the end of DADT.

Meanwhile, God bless the Marine Corps! I think the Marines will find a way around this latest outrage, flung at all of us by a true hater of the military.


99 posted on 04/09/2012 6:19:06 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: EveningStar

Not sure how this would be a bad thing. Some of the most anti-drug people were former drug addicts. Aren’t the sodomites themselves, the ones most familiar with the tremendous damage and deadly aspects of the lifestyle choice? Then it would be logical that some who are the strongest against homosexual behavior would be ones familiar with it ( just like ex-smokers).


100 posted on 04/09/2012 6:25:35 AM PDT by DesertRenegade
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