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From JFK To George Zimmerman - And Response
The Chattanoogan ^ | April 7, 2012 | Doug Jones

Posted on 04/08/2012 4:24:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

So now it appears NBC has fired an "un-named," producer who altered the George Zimmerman 911 call and by doing so inflamed racial tensions in South Florida. Does anyone really believe this is an honest mistake with all of the editorial checks a mainstream news organization like NBC has in place? Is there anyone out there who doesn't think the Mainstream Media doesn't have a political agenda? And oh, how about that vast right wing media that exposed this breach of journalistic integrity? Thirty years ago we would have never known about it.

I remember almost 50 years ago when JFK was assassinated on a Friday afternoon in Dallas. For the next 24 hours all we heard about were all the right wing hate groups in Dallas. Then on Saturday afternoon we find out that Lee Harvey Oswald was of all things, a pro-Castro Marxist. And I remember the Tawana Brawley case where the "Reverend" Al Sharpton tried to inflame racial tensions in upstate New York and later we found out the whole story was a hoax.

I lived in Atlanta in 1996 when we had the Centennial Olympic Park bombing and the media all jumped on the bandwagon to accuse a poor little security guard named Richard Jewell of being the bomber. Later we discovered he was only guilty of trying to warn people of a suspicious package. And I am sure we all remember the Duke lacrosse team case when the media was judge, juror and executioner on the white guys on the lacrosse team. Later, once again, we found out the whole thing was a hoax and the district attorney actually was convicted of abusing his power.

One other fact about the Richard Jewell case. Several media organizations had to pay him an, "undisclosed" sum for their erroneous reporting and one of those was NBC. I hope when this is all over George Zimmerman owns Rockefeller Center.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
Me too.
1 posted on 04/08/2012 4:24:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Today NBC is saying that the story was a mistake and or edited for time constraints.

How can they then have fired the unnamed producer with facing a significant suit?

We will learn in the coming weeks, that the report of the unnamed producer being fired ,was also a mistake or reported as such , or do to time constraints.


2 posted on 04/08/2012 4:30:22 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Anybody but Obama, because it's not always about me. Thank God McCain/Palin lost! - Right?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amen!


3 posted on 04/08/2012 4:30:30 PM PDT by Ronin (Sarah.... We really need you now!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thirty years ago we would have never known about it.

Yup -- which is why the Democrat run "news" media hates the alternate media.

4 posted on 04/08/2012 4:31:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember the Kennedy assassination very well. One thing the author didn’t point out was that even after it was learned that Oswald was a Communist, they still kept blaming it on White Conservative Southerners. They kept at it for years and were able to use it to pass the 68 gun control act.

The media never lets a tragedy go to waste.

They are not just liars, they are what Mark Twain referred to as “damn liars”.


5 posted on 04/08/2012 4:33:29 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So now it appears NBC has fired an "un-named,"

That will give the "un-named" family a black eye forever, won't it.

6 posted on 04/08/2012 4:34:17 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: yarddog

How long was it before it was revealed that several weeks before Dallas, Oswald tried to assassinate the president of the John Birch Society by firing into the man’s living room??


7 posted on 04/08/2012 4:40:21 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NBC’s coverup of who did the editing of the tape will end up as badly as Nixon snipping 18 minutes of tape.

NBC only prolongs the story by refusing to name the person responsible.


8 posted on 04/08/2012 4:41:44 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You forgot the Beltway Sniper. “Disgruntled white racist in a white van”. And they they catch John Muhammad and Lee Malvo in a blue Chevy...


9 posted on 04/08/2012 4:43:54 PM PDT by Salgak
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Does anyone really believe this is an honest mistake

So why did NBC fire this fellow if it was truly an honest mistake?

10 posted on 04/08/2012 4:45:54 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Frank_2001

The Kennedys had general Walker confined to a mental institution purely for political purposes.

Literally what I would have expected of the KGB.


11 posted on 04/08/2012 4:48:11 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And I am sure we all remember the Duke lacrosse team case when the media was judge, juror and executioner on the white guys on the lacrosse team.

Let's not forget their very learned accomplices, the fair and balanced Duke faculty and administration.

12 posted on 04/08/2012 4:49:00 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“So now it appears NBC has fired an “un-named,” producer...”

We really don’t know that they’ve actually fired anybody. It could be just BS.


13 posted on 04/08/2012 4:49:32 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: umgud

Pointed out on another thread. They should have kept him close. Because he’s fired and has nothing to loose he can expose all or any of NBC’s flaws. Can’t wait to read the book.


14 posted on 04/08/2012 4:56:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” I hope when this is all over George Zimmerman owns Rockefeller Center. “

Should MSM/Sharpton/Jackson/Obama-Holder get their wish, and this progresses to violence, I hope everyone who suffers injury or property damage as a result sues them individually and collectively —


15 posted on 04/08/2012 5:00:23 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: mass55th

We really don’t know that they’ve actually fired anybody. It could be just BS.

I agree. No way has NBC fired anyone. If they had fired someone, they become vulnerable.


16 posted on 04/08/2012 5:03:16 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: mass55th

We really don’t know that they’ve actually fired anybody. It could be just BS.

I agree. No way has NBC fired anyone. If they had fired someone, they become vulnerable.


17 posted on 04/08/2012 5:03:19 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: mass55th

We really don’t know that they’ve actually fired anybody. It could be just BS.

I agree. No way has NBC fired anyone. If they had fired someone, they become vulnerable.


18 posted on 04/08/2012 5:03:19 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: NoLibZone
NBC may have fired someone, but why not try to clear their name (like that is possible) by identifying the Perp?. Probably because the Clown whom did it would tell us, what did I do wrong? Just further cementing the case that bias is so ingrained in these Lefty's that they just don't see it. Or another possibility is that allowing this botched edit to go on the air went to the top...paging Mr Williams, Brian Williams to the Red Courtesy Phone.
19 posted on 04/08/2012 5:05:17 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I remember almost 50 years ago when JFK was assassinated on a Friday afternoon in Dallas. For the next 24 hours all we heard about were all the right wing hate groups in Dallas.

I remember that -- and it went on for months nationwide.

I recall that the NY Times' James "Scotty" Reston a close friend of JFK led the charge against the emerging modern conservative movement's "climate of hate" and violence.

If memory serves me I recall one edition of the Times that had a Reston column railing against the conservatives AND on the same FRONT PAGE of the Times was a news article describing Oswald and his membership in the Fair Play for Cuba organization.. plus his desertion from the Marine Corps and defection to the USSR.

.. and it may have been known at the time that Oswald fired shots at Major General Edwin Walker (recently resigned from the U.S. Army protesting JFK and RFK and a conservative activist.)

I do not remember this at the time but I read later that Walter Cronkite had to apologize to Barry Goldwater for trying to tie Goldwater to the assassination of JFK.

Yes.. the liberals used the lies to great benefit for themselves.. the even managed to get Joe Pyne run off the air. I personally did not know of Pyne in November 1963 but I believe Pyne was on hundreds of radio stations.

I recall Bob Grant telling how he got his start by having to immediately take Pyne's spot on a NY station.

20 posted on 04/08/2012 5:06:47 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: yarddog
RE: The Kennedys had general Walker confined to a mental institution purely for political purposes.

Yes I remember that .. and Walker's lawsuit against the AP for their lies connecting him to riots at the U.of Mississippi.

I think it was ruled an OOOPs moment and the AP did not mean to libel Walker.

I sure as hell wish people would sue the hell out of these clowns now.. especially the innocent ones wrongly connected to Zimmerman.

21 posted on 04/08/2012 5:13:29 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Me too.

I had family in Wappingers Falls during the Brawley debacle. The whole thing was solved by noon the next day and the D.A. was considering bring charges against young Tawana for filing a false police report. (As an aside both Sharpton and the Brawley family raked in mega bucks even though they lost the case against the D.A and the police dept. and never paid.)

The details of the assassination of JFK were supposed to have been sealed for 50 years before being released......and we're still waiting.

Atlanta and The Duke LaCrosse players were other cases that turned the the old adage 'money talks, BS walks' topsy turvy .
22 posted on 04/08/2012 5:14:41 PM PDT by BIGLOOK
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To: Mears

bfl


23 posted on 04/08/2012 5:18:38 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Actually there was a PBS documentary on the JFK assassination just a few years back narrated by the perky one...all it spoke of was right wing hate for JFK....just one line that Oswald was left.....
24 posted on 04/08/2012 5:25:56 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: All
The media's tale of two crimes..

Media storm rages coast-to-coast: Whites go on killing spree -- black Americans targeted by racists white Americans! Whites declare war on blacks, another Tulsa 1921 massacre! Likely to spread to all cities this election year!

But a good thing happened, the killers are arrested two days after the heinous crimes. No question that hate was involved, turns out that revenge was a big part of the reason too. They deserves maximum punishment for killing innocents IMO.

Second case: Black 12-year old child knocks 300-pound racist white guy (the other part of the guy is Hispanic and not racist) to ground, 300-pound racist white guy eventually shoots black 12-year-old child to death claiming that the child was about to beat him to death.

IF 300-pound racist white guy gets anything less than immediate death for killing the 12-year-year-old child, two minutes later some blacks may go looking for whites to kill -- Good idea! say the media; but, the good news for us!, they will be there covering the revenge killings and they will the first to go! :) :)

Thank you, NBC and your cherry bomb reporting, et al.

25 posted on 04/08/2012 5:28:26 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Fascinating. Did not know that about Bob Grant, a true giant that Rush et. al. ought to thank every time they sign on. Thanks.


26 posted on 04/08/2012 5:38:54 PM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: umgud

How do we really know they fired anybody?


27 posted on 04/08/2012 5:39:19 PM PDT by DB
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To: DAC21

The word around the web is that it’s Today show producer Jim Bell.

Of course ,that’s unsubstantiated and unproven but since that MO is good enough for NBC and the rest of the media, let’s go with that.


28 posted on 04/08/2012 5:40:59 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: yarddog
Walker was who Oswald took a shot just before JFK...now think if Oswald had killed Walker and got caught before JFK...Oswald would of been a hero of the left...the left would of held protest to have him freed as a political prisoner...kid in collage would have Oswald picture on tee shirt like Che...a hero.......

It would make for a good alt time line scifi story

29 posted on 04/08/2012 5:41:08 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: umgud

Unless there’s a name, why should we believe they fired anyone? Why believe anything they say? They seem to have no problem with lying 24/7/365.


30 posted on 04/08/2012 5:41:22 PM PDT by madison10
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To: DB
How do we really know they fired anybody?

Because they are honest people? /s

31 posted on 04/08/2012 5:42:47 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: tophat9000

That is an interesting scenario to say the least.


32 posted on 04/08/2012 5:43:42 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
Interesting for the same reason good humor is funny...the elements of truth we know in our heart it contains
33 posted on 04/08/2012 5:51:33 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Carl LaFong
“The word around the web is that it’s Today show producer Jim Bell”

This clown is the spitting image of a younger Micheal Moore (three chins, 3 days of stubble) Shocking!

http://patdollard.com/2012/04/breaking-nbc-news-fires-producer-who-edited-911-call-to-smear-zimmerman-as-racist/

Scroll down to see the dirt bag. If true this is climbing very close to the top, this Pig was slated to produce the the London Olympics.

34 posted on 04/08/2012 6:02:20 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: yarddog
You know it said that Oswald only missed Walker because he shot through a closed window, and the bullet deflected off one of the window muntins....the strip of wood that holds the panes of glass in a divided-light window

So if Oswald kills Walker does Oswald then kill Kennedy?...unlikely...

So Kennedy does not become a martyr ...

At the time it looked like Kennedy would lose reelection...

but either way...no Johnson becoming president in 64...

So Vietnam plays out differently...

So then no Nixon in 68?... So no Watergate in 73?...

So no Carter in 76 in reaction to Watergate?

So then no Reagan in reaction to Carter?..

So..no fall of the Soviet Union from Reagan standing up to them?

And on and on and on...

Could all that pivot on a little strip of wood in a place in time and space?

Interesting to think about

35 posted on 04/08/2012 6:37:47 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: tophat9000

You sound like Ray Bradbury!


36 posted on 04/08/2012 6:39:52 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: tophat9000

Well put. It’s impossible to know how much differently events would have played out, just that history was indeed changed.


37 posted on 04/08/2012 6:50:44 PM PDT by RDAardvark (Fast-forward to Jan 20th 2013, please.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
anyway you look at it...fate is never sealed...ALL of history can pivot 180 degrees on the smallest of thinks...

Something to keep you going when the great Media propaganda "talking heads" drone on and on 24/7 of "inevitable"

The great "Obunhole" can be defeated...

the tide of the left can be turned...

The forever loss of what it is that makes America great is, and never will be "inevitable"

You just have to keep standing back up....

A good Easter Resurrection theme thought for the day

38 posted on 04/08/2012 7:15:38 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: mass55th

A lawsuit by Zimmerman supporters will require NBC to provide documentation in the discovery process.

BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Race baiters MUST KNOW THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR DISHONESTY.


39 posted on 04/08/2012 7:21:46 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You’ll be sh!t on several times by flocks of flying pigs before the MSM will ever fire one of their corrupt newsreaders, producers, writers, etc., hence the “unnamed” individual.


40 posted on 04/08/2012 7:31:23 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
(Art.) I hope when this is all over George Zimmerman owns Rockefeller Center.

Author Doug Jones has a point. When a hard-pressed rancher called in Ranch Rescue to help with illegals overrunning his property (having exhausted other avenues of help, LE standing by with folded arms), RR included in their posse a lout named Nethercutt who proceeded to whack a wet Mexican on the head with his pistole.

Southern Poverty Law Center showed up doing loudspeaker barratry, soliciting far and wide among the illegals for anyone who had had contact with Ranch Rescue and had any kind of problem or complaint with them. The illegal with the bump on his head came forward, SPLC and Morris Dees sued the rancher and Nethercutt, and eventually the illegal alien received the whole ranch as "damages".

Nethercutt went to prison.

41 posted on 04/08/2012 9:51:18 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stir racial problems. Have something to report tomorrow.


42 posted on 04/09/2012 5:22:32 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So they said that JFK was killed by a right wing group at first? Didn’t know that (before my time). Funny how the narrative has been the same for so long.


43 posted on 04/09/2012 6:28:47 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Not only is NBC cherry bombing it like you said, but they have made it all but impossible for this ‘300 lb semi-racist guy’ from ever getting a fair trial.

If NBC and the race baiters were really cared about getting justice for the ‘12yr old child’ then they wouldn’t be tainting jury pools with their outrageous one-sided reporting.

Where are they going to find an unbiased jury with scant knowledge of this case? And yeah I hope Zimmerman gets a ‘Jewel’ heist out of all these media mongers.


44 posted on 04/09/2012 8:11:40 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: tophat9000

>>>Could all that pivot on a little strip of wood in a place in time and space?<<<

Yes


45 posted on 04/09/2012 8:58:47 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: redpoll
>>>Could all that pivot on a little strip of wood in a place in time and space?<<<

You know you could say this about Clinton too ;>

46 posted on 04/09/2012 9:58:33 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: tophat9000

It took a minute for me to figure that one out... now I have to floss my imagination.


47 posted on 04/09/2012 12:18:40 PM PDT by redpoll
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