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The Story Unravels: New Questions about Trayvon Martin's Final Hour
American Thinker ^ | April 9, 2012 | Jeff Lipkes

Posted on 04/09/2012 12:23:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It was a fable for our times:

Once upon a time, a nice young man set off from his dad's fiancée's home before the NBA All-Star game to buy some Skittles and Arizona Tea for his stepbrother. Although the lad was seventeen, he looked like a cute twelve-year-old. Along came a burly ex-con racist vigilante who didn't like the idea of a young African-American male walking around his gated community at night. The cop-wannabe stalked the frightened boy, cornered him, and then shot him. But the racist police didn't arrest the murderer. The conscience of the nation was stirred. Protests erupted from coast to coast. The gunning down of young, unarmed black males by white Rambos -- and the occasional "white Hispanic" -- is an all-too-common occurrence in the US of A.

Now the MSM narrative is unraveling, thanks to Al Gore's nifty invention, the internet. The average MSNBC viewer may not have the smarts and curiosity to do a Google search, but other people do. A lot of the searches wind up at the sites of the Orlando Sentinel and the city's Fox affiliate, Channel 35, both of which have provided good coverage.

Now other local papers are running stories about the "complexity" of the case.

We've learned a little more about Trayvon Martin. Since his record of suspensions and his posts and pictures, with tats and grill, from his Myspace and Twitter accounts surfaced on the web, columnists are less likely to enthuse about him, as a WaPo blogger did on March 18:

By all accounts, Trayvon was a good kid[.] ... He had dreams of becoming a pilot. He was good at math. ... Trayvon's English teacher described him "as an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness."

"So what?" the left responds....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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KEYWORDS: crime; florida; georgezimmerman; msm; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live in a rural area. Maybe they will come to my place.

Please come to my place, I just converted one of my AR15’s to 6.8 SPC and I really want to check terminal performance.


51 posted on 04/09/2012 5:35:42 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: spacejunkie2001
John Morgan would go after NBC in a heartbeat even though he is an 0bama supporter. I'd root for any ambulance chaser who'd pick NBC’s deep pockets for what they did to Zimmerman.
52 posted on 04/09/2012 5:37:46 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
my apology for not staying on topic ....

Have long thought about the type of tactics which would be employed, should the cities go into riot mode. Can say one good thing came from zer0's election. The nation prepared and continues to prepare in anticipation of a necessity which one prays never materializes. Yet should the necessity rear its head, (imho) the nation is prepared and well armed.

53 posted on 04/09/2012 5:42:45 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I attended a gunshow Friday and Saturday in my area. The theme seemed to be that AR weponry will double in value by the inauguration. Rifles and home defense weaponry (Mossberg 930 SPX type shotguns, hi cap pistols, etc.) were the most popular items, but ammo was not moving as well as in January. Also the holo sights and laser hang ons seemed popular. I sold three items very quickly toward the end of the Saturday show. My AR pistol was fondled by many and a Winchester 1300 with ghost ring sight and heat shield sold within minutes of my bringing it into the show. The lightweight AR I built caught lots of attention for ' handling ease for the others in the household'. Interestingly, AKs were not popular this show. Several guys walking WASRs around couldn't find buyers.

Folks seem to sense what is on Obama's agenda for this dying Republic, even the black guy VET I spoke with. Many do not have faith that honest elections will happen in November. And the food storage business at the show was brisk.

54 posted on 04/09/2012 5:44:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: RightOnline

The mobbings are training programs by ‘community organizers’. The idea is to riot in the business sector so insurance companies are hurt the most and commerce is stopped. The notion of thug gaggles raiding the burbs is fanciful, not likely. Othuggo’s regime has a target which exploits the stupidity of blacks and leftist white fools who will come when called to riot and mayhem. Those dumb enough to mob stores and shoppers are the useful idiot fodder the democrat elitists will use to create chaos in commerce and thus cause the business, banking, and insurance sectors to demand Othuggo shut the nation down to stop the losses. I’m afraid America is too far gone into dependency to make a turnaround. ... BLOAT


55 posted on 04/09/2012 5:52:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
American thinker links to the Waglist article:Evidence that Trayvon Martin Doubled Back, which provides an interesting possibility from looking at the map: Trayvon had enough time to reach the house where he was staying, ditch anything he didn't want found on him, and double back to Zimmerman's truck to confront him and get into a fight with him.
56 posted on 04/09/2012 5:57:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: cuban leaf

So what happens when they (the black rioters) reach the wealthy suburbs and find that they are not filled with only whites, but there are nice black families living there as well..... how does that play out?


57 posted on 04/09/2012 5:57:55 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “son” of POTUS Barack Hussein Obama, Trayvon Martin is beginning to appear as he really was, a Black racist, teenage, thug, gangsta. Without further comment, Black Americans are lost at sea and will remain that way until they get real, drop the racist mantra, join the general American society, and restore the family unit.

Disgruntled, hateful, broken families, lack of education, out of wedlock mothers, with no husbands, multiple abortions, weak, greedy and power leaders, both church & political is no way to go through life in a free society. To begin with, a good look in the reality mirror might do wonders, but.....I doubt it!!! They would rather follow the flim/flam man Obama to chained dependency life on the economic, slave plantation!!! Sad for them and sad for America!!!


58 posted on 04/09/2012 5:59:04 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy POTUS Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Sea Parrot
ROFL! I like that idea!
59 posted on 04/09/2012 6:02:11 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy


...but there are nice black families living there as well..... how does that play out?

They are “uncle Tom’s” to these folks. For most of them, race is not really the issue. Rather, inequality, for which they refuse to take responsibility, is the issue.


60 posted on 04/09/2012 6:05:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Salamander

>> To any of them lurking this forum: Stay away from the Appalachians.

heh... rural Texas isn’t a real good choice either.

Not even at night; we’re used to shooting feral hogs and a lot of us have night vision.


61 posted on 04/09/2012 6:07:45 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: F15Eagle
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62 posted on 04/09/2012 6:08:37 AM PDT by ontap
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rural destinations could be a big mistake. Rural folks are usually ready for varmints of just about any stripe.


63 posted on 04/09/2012 6:09:24 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: ontap

Its sad that this poor kid was abandoned by his parents to pursue his dream of being a gangsta. They probably thought it was cute and empowering, which is probably why I teach my kids to do their homework, and trigger control.


64 posted on 04/09/2012 6:11:51 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: ontap

ABC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC won’t show that picture.

It would go against their agenda.


65 posted on 04/09/2012 6:13:15 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: cuban leaf

...but there are nice black families living there as well..... how does that play out?


They are “uncle Tom’s” to these folks. For most of them, race is not really the issue. Rather, inequality, for which they refuse to take responsibility, is the issue.

**

Don’t forget the term “turncoat.” This is how I heard Herman Cain described by a black moron female at my work place.

Basically, it’s anyone whose black and successful (i.e, rejected Plantation living).


66 posted on 04/09/2012 6:17:04 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
OWS, New Black Panthers, SEIU, ACORN, DNC, Int'l ANSWER, Weather Underground...

Those "coffee house revoutionaries" aren't going to take the cannon-fodder out to the 'burbs because even cannon fodder will stop to question the wisdom of that move, whereas burning down their own neighborhoods comes naturally. Crowds can melt away if things get dicey.

67 posted on 04/09/2012 6:17:04 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Rearden
Please come to my place, I just converted one of my AR15’s to 6.8 SPC and I really want to check terminal performance.

Meh....I'll me using my Ruger 10/22 with a John Norrell trigger pack and Gem-tech suppressor. They'll never know what hit them. I'll be like SGT York turkey hunting ;)

68 posted on 04/09/2012 6:17:21 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

69 posted on 04/09/2012 6:19:50 AM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: RightOnline
The gang bangers have lots of vehicles. That's where a lot of their money goes. Drive through any "inner city" and you will see lots of vehicles, with many of them more expensive than yours.
70 posted on 04/09/2012 6:27:51 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Sea Parrot
When whites go vote in November, should wear Hoodies, like white ones.

You realize of course that WalMart, Target, JC Penney, and all other retail chains just read that and canceled every order for white hoodies that they had in the pipeline...
71 posted on 04/09/2012 6:28:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: DCBryan1

That is still one of my favorite movies.


72 posted on 04/09/2012 6:29:50 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Sea Parrot; Admin Moderator

73 posted on 04/09/2012 6:30:42 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A few days ago I wrote about how little interest there seems to be on the part of the media in reproducing maps of the crime scene.

Bears repeating. I'm sure as heck interested.

74 posted on 04/09/2012 6:31:35 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: All

If riots break out, if you are caught in a city, you are done.

There will be a mad rush to exit the cities, and highways will be clogged. This makes it easier for the perpetually aggrieved to “Reginald Denny” people en masse.

The emergency services will fold, quickly, especially after the first fire fighter is shot. The fire services will not respond and there won’t be enough cops to escort them AND keep merchants from being looted.

Enough cops get killed, and they too will walk off. Just like in Katrina, but nationwide. Every home that can be kicked in by the gangsta’s will be kicked in, and woe be to you if you ain’t down for da struggle.

Here is something else to consider. Many cities also have National Guard armories in them. The most organized and clear thinking will seize those, and even the most REMF outfit has automatic weapons.

There WILL be those who can organize those warring gangstas into a fighting force once they have a common enemy.

They also WILL come into the suburbs once the food in the city has run out. It will start as scouting forays and then mass movement. How far they move is dependent on the organization and strength of any resistance.


75 posted on 04/09/2012 6:34:47 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Great post.


76 posted on 04/09/2012 6:36:19 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: RightOnline
Hitting Joe and Jane American in their quiet suburban neighborhood won’t cut it and they know it.

They won't hit "Joe and Jane American in their quiet suburban neighborhood" because:

1) there's no real loot, and

2) they have a larger probability of getting shot.

What they will do instead is show up at suburban shopping centers in large numbers, stage mass lootings, and disperse.

This will still cause a large impact on Joe and Jane as prices on everything in the stores goes up in order to cover losses and for the needed increased security.

77 posted on 04/09/2012 6:38:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

Agreed; that is highly plausible.


78 posted on 04/09/2012 6:42:51 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: cuban leaf
"They are “uncle Tom’s” to these folks. For most of them, race is not really the issue. Rather, inequality, for which they refuse to take responsibility, is the issue."

I think you are probably right about that. And perhaps that little issue will be what ultimately would save this from becoming an all-out mini-war of whites against blacks which would be so sad to see happen.

Another unintended consequence of a riot against the suburbs..... most of the blacks in our upscale Atlanta burbs (nice people though they are) are never-the-less avid Democrats, big money supporters to the Dem party, and I am betting they wouldn't take too well to be called Uncle Toms. The whole thing might just open their eyes a bit to just who their real friends are.

79 posted on 04/09/2012 6:44:15 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTTT


80 posted on 04/09/2012 6:46:46 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fight.


81 posted on 04/09/2012 6:47:38 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: Molon Labbie
Unfortunately some of us have to work in the city (and live 75+ miles away). I ride in a van, but we will take side streets through quiet suburbs until we get far enough away to safely get back on the highway.

A lot of your scenario depends on what happens the next few years. If Obama gets back and fans the flames and cuts off funding for law and order, then things could happen relatively soon. OTOH, if we get milktoast as president, we could have a situation where black frustration builds quickly but is effectively dealt with (I hope).

82 posted on 04/09/2012 6:55:25 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: panaxanax
”Stolen cars, SUVs, busses, their own vehicles, pickups with 15 in the back like Somalia, hijacked semi trucks (fill the trailers with armed vandals) and stolen police vehicles.”

That works to our advantage. They apparently wouldn't understand the combat tactic of maintaining distances and not bunching up. One grenade or concentrated small arms fire would take many out at one time. Fish in a barrel and all that. Target rich environment.
83 posted on 04/09/2012 6:58:09 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Talk about asymmetrical battlefield.... when “they'll head for the suburbs, exurbs and rural areas this time”.

Guess where most of the vigilant civilian patriot arms are. Yep, in the suburbs, exurbs and rural areas.

Nobama, the left nor the blacks may not give a flying f____ about your life, but they damn sure have a strong affinity toward their own. Any riots will be in Da Hood or urban stos wid da big screens and lickur fo free, because that is where they will be mostly “handled” by gubmint forces and will have significantly less opportunity to meet their maker.

84 posted on 04/09/2012 7:01:02 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: MacMattico; hosepipe

Sometimes some things just jump off the page and say “that is exactly what I was thinking”. Honkification was one of them!


85 posted on 04/09/2012 7:06:44 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: RightOnline

I think we all have to warn our families though....its not enough for my household to be safe....I want my children who live in the larger cities to be safe....one dtr and her husband live very near downtown Portland and mostly, they are in la la land...I hope they catch a clue pretty soon....


86 posted on 04/09/2012 7:12:44 AM PDT by cherry
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To: PapaBear3625
"The gang bangers have lots of vehicles. That's where a lot of their money goes. Drive through any "inner city" and you will see lots of vehicles, with many of them more expensive than yours."

To your last point, I'd have to say....."probably so". :)

Still, can't pack a crowd into such vehicles. They'll stay close to home.

BTW....I'm quite prepared, just in case. :)

87 posted on 04/09/2012 7:15:08 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

Like “Babes-in-the-Woods”.

Imagine these guys spending one single night alone in the ‘spooky’ deep woods. They’d be running out of there so fast in the morning they’d run out of their $200 sneakers.

I’m laughing out loud just thinking about how much fun we would have using some predator calls near their camp!


88 posted on 04/09/2012 7:18:59 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I think that photo has any of Michelle beat...except one.


89 posted on 04/09/2012 7:19:25 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: PapaBear3625
as I asked my husband....its one thing to pick off one or two, if possible, but what if a whole car load or two of animals pulls up to your house and attacks all doors and windows......we can't count on the cops to get there...

scary times...

90 posted on 04/09/2012 7:24:51 AM PDT by cherry
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To: All

Hope Zimmerman sues everybody involved in this case.


91 posted on 04/09/2012 7:28:56 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: DCBryan1

Please stop, any talk about suppressers gives me a woodie, lol.

Give ‘em Hell FRiend!!


92 posted on 04/09/2012 7:29:36 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: RightOnline

My point is that they won’t even leave their own neighborhoods. Historically they haven’t rioted anywhere, but their own communities. There isn’t going to be any race war and talking like there will be only serves Obama who’s desperate to capture the “independent” white women’s vote. That and keeping blacks from staying home are the only reasons we’ve even heard of Trayvon.


93 posted on 04/09/2012 7:30:33 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: A Navy Vet
I know it's not right, but I want to see the no-loads burn their cities down again.

I don't. Lots of innocent people always get hurt in these type of riots, much more so than the perps.

94 posted on 04/09/2012 7:38:03 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 1010RD
I’ve never personally seen a gang fight in which the attackers didn’t have a less than 7 to 1 advantage. I’ve seen several where the advantage was 20-40 to 1. It was scary.

First of all, it's not a "gang fight," it's a racially motivated attack.

Second, this is nothing new. In the late 40s and early 50s, when I grew up, we had a term for it.

95 posted on 04/09/2012 7:41:05 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Qwackertoo
Heck, they can’t even leave a city when warned by the President on National TV that a category 5 hurricane is heading right towards them.

I know what you're saying, but a large number of Obama supporters and Holder's people ended up in Houston, San Antonio, and other cities in Texas. What the media doesn't report is that virtually every hotel and apartment the government put them up in was totally trashed.

96 posted on 04/09/2012 7:49:08 AM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: panaxanax
I’m laughing out loud just thinking about how much fun we would have using some predator calls near their camp!

Home sweet home. LOL.

Nothing like hearing a pack of coyotes yelping at about 12 midnight with no other noises around. It even startles me a bit sometimes, and I'm used to it.

97 posted on 04/09/2012 7:49:34 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Still wonder about the injury on Zimmermans head. It looks to be right on the top or very close to the top of his head. Zimmerman said he was flat on his back with Martin pounding his head into the pavement, so it seems injury would be further down on his head. Could he have banged the top of his head getting out of his vehicle?


98 posted on 04/09/2012 7:56:15 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

LOL! That is what our p[ant manager from hell said thirty five years ago! He was there to “Discipline the men!”


99 posted on 04/09/2012 7:56:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Sea Parrot

***should wear Hoodies, like white ones.***

Like the one in SCARY MOVIE 3? White boy wants to be in “de hood”! Wins a black rap contest and flips up his hoodie which is too pointed, and is thrown out of a window.


100 posted on 04/09/2012 8:08:19 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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