Skip to comments.Arpaio: GOP Candidates 'Hiding' From Eligibility
Posted on 04/09/2012 1:06:09 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome
Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio told a radio host today hes met with Republicans including every one of the GOP presidential candidates and has come to the conclusion theyre as guilty as Democrats of hiding questions about Barack Obamas eligibility to be president.
As WND reported, Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse conducted an extensive examination of documents released by the White House last April purported to be Obamas original, long-form birth certificate and Selective Service registration card, only to conclude there is probable cause the documents are actually forgeries.
Yet despite his findings, Arpaio told Aaron Klein Investigative Radio on New Yorks WABC Radio that media and politicians alike are afraid to touch the issue.
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Yeah they are. But you know what I’m thinking? My thought on this is not that they won’t ever take it up, it’s that they know they only have one chance if they do.
If Newt, Rick or Mitt ever take up the eligibility issue they will have to be able to prove, immediately, unquestionably, and absolutely that they have the goods. If they don’t they will be massacred by the media (rhetorically speaking).
It would also be a full declaration of war against the Obama administration and could possibly convince him that his only chance to avoid prison is to assume supreme power and govern directly. And if that means whipping up race riots, declaring martial law, ordering the Supreme Court into recess, or even locking them up, he’ll do it.
At that stage he would have nothing to lose.
Bearing that in mind, it’s very possible they might be waiting for exactly the right moment and forum to play that card. If that’s the case, it’s probably a smart move.
Of course, they might also be chicken.
I havent heard from any, Arpaio said, especially the congressional delegation from Arizona.
Sheriff Joe calling out the coward pols Ping.
If they refuse to broach this issue, then they themselves are criminal, and we have enough of those already.
In case you hadn't noticed, he's kinda gearing up for that already. The Supreme Court demand/order will probably come after they repudiate Obamacare, and right before the second run on the banks/market. I don't think we're going to get out of this pResidency without some MAJOR Stow High In Transit going down. All it takes is the right pretext.
" You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."
Rahm "Bath House" Emanuel
Who is afraid of the Islamofascist?
Sounds like a good marching chant to me.
I’m afraid you’re right.
Yes, but the truth has a way of sticking around. The voters know little about this man, and are curious to know.
One thing that bothers me about Romney is the apparent lack of statesmanship in the man, besides being wishy washy. Our country is on a road to nowhere right now.
Joe got it right -- cowards, all!
Good morning all,
“When will it come to a head?”
The Republican Party and all of our so called Conservative talk show and TV hosts are damn cowards, leaving Sheriff Joe out on a limb like this.
I say third party with Joe for President.
What’s to lose?
Obligatory. There's a surprising amount of the lyrics that could be ascribed to the USA, if personified.
And if our Republic falls, there's not much in the way of places to go in the world to outrun the metastasizing global tyranny.
Joe Arpaio is right there! He says what everybody knows. Nobody will uphold the Constitution.
He never should have surrendered the office to a FOREIGNER!
My money is on “chicken.”.
“At that stage he would have nothing to lose.”
At that stage, he WILL lose.
Of COURSE they are scared to death to ask that question.
Anyone who even dares to bring this up is attacked from all quarters in the media, branded a RACIST, a kook, a nutjob, etc.
They are the subject of Top 10 lists on LEterman, and skits on Saturday Night Live.
The Dems sick the IRS and justice on you, like they are doing to Arapio. Lots of people don’t dare to mention this.
I’m linking this to my Facebook, along with the press conference.
I try to keep Facebook non-political, but liberals are firing shots routinely on Facebook.
The truth needs to come out. If you vote Obama, fine, but you’re voting for a fraud. It is what it is.
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes’. So how can the Obama birth certificate state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn't even used at that time?
2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is age 25 years old and that Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa”. This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate”. Wikipedia about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_Colony
3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children's Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
Obama either doesn't know or he doesn't care that we aren't all as shockingly ignorant as his Democrat constituency.
Nice to see Joe catching up with reality.
But it was already obvious four years ago that not a single Republican leader cared a whit about the imperative provisions of the Constitution, when not a one of them would raise the question in the Congress when the electoral votes were tallied.
They are the subject of Top 10 lists on LEterman, and skits on Saturday Night Live.
Yeah, the problem is much bigger than one person. No one wants to acknowledge the kind of conflict this portends.
I’m sure the MSM will open their ridicule faucet full blast on Joe if he brings everything to the surface. You can count on it.
One of our local AM radio talk host who acted conservative on all/most issues was right in line with the dictate not to touch the birth issue. He would slur the birther thing, just like the liberals and would not touch it.
Two weeks ago, there was a big shakeup in DFW AM radio. Fox news radio is no longer on the air (for what they were worth) and Bolton has been dismissed. The new format promises no yelling on the radio. Passive go along/get along types.
Guess the media should have exposed the fraud when they had the chance. Now no one will touch it now. They are all afraid of losing the FCC license. All opposition is being removed prior to the election.
Roberts had an obligation not to swear the guy in. The electoral college had an obligation to make sure he was qualified. All the state and county voting offices had an obligation to check to make sure he was qualified to be on their ballot. Nancy Pelosi had an obligation not to certify him as the DNC’s candidate knowing he was not a citizen.
Please take you disinformationalist BULLSH*T elsewhere. Stamps were being issued that referred to Kenya in 1935.
And the Nordyke twins birth certificates list the same hospital you claim did not exist in 1961.
Yes Eternal, and every US Senator signed the non-actionable resolution confirming their belief that -
My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen, Chertoff replied. That is mine, too, said Leahy.
Every member of Congress read Obama’s “Fightthesmears” web site in which Obama honestly told us “I am a native-born citizen of the US.” Congressmen should all know, but most citizens don't, that what Obama told us was that he is a 14th Amendment naturalized citizen. Because of his alien father Barry is not natural born, nor did he ever claim to be. He just knew he would never be asked by the media, and that no legislator would raise the issue because John McCain was not eligible either.
There were two actions, S.2678 in Feb 2008 sponsored by Obama and McCaskill, the the Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act. which did not pass, and would in any case have failed the judicial review Barack clearly doesn't care for. It was a statute, a law, and could not have changed the Constitution. Every Senator knew that McCain needed an act to become eligible, but S.2678 did not pass. Then, in April 2008, six weeks later, the Senate Judiciary Committee considered the McCaskill/Leahy/Clinton resolution to create the political impression that McCain had been made eligible. Most don't know what a ‘resolution’ is, and neither did this writer, but some reading shows a resolution to be an non-actionable opinion “John McCain served the country so we all agree that this time we will just ignore the Constitution.” Two bills in six weeks as Barack moved behind the curtains to become the candidate. McCain as an opponent was needed to quiet any congressman tempted to honor, protect, and defend the Constitution.
Terms are not defined in the Constitution - by design. Natural born citizenship was common-law, known to everyone at the time of the framing of the Constitution. One source, of dozens, was cited by Chief Justice John Marshall in an 1814 decision, The Venus, 12 US 253. Chief Justice Morrison Waite needed the definition because there was no Constitutional definition other than Article II Section 1 of who were citizens. Most citizens were natural born citizens, but the framers wouldn't leave eligibility requirement for the president to Congress. Defining who were naturalized citizens was left by Article I Section 8, to congress, which didn't get around to defining citizens until 1868, the 14th Amendment. Chief Justice Waite turned common-law, “born on the soil to parents who were its citizens,” into positive law - precedence. That was in Minor v. Happersett, 88 US 162 (1875). No judge, legislator, or pundit who fails to address the crystalline definition of natural born citizen in Minor is worth listening to. They are lying to cover their complicity. The law is there, and clear. That the case is precedent will be clear to anyone who takes the time to read Minor. Remember, Justice Waite said that because Virginia Minor is a natural born citizen, she is also a citizen. It sounds redundant, but remember, before 1868, the Amendment at issue in the case, there was no other constitutional definition of who were citizens. Remember too that 14th Amendment citizens, like Obama, are, by definition, 'naturalized citizens.'
It doesn't say that. In fact birth certificates never list the race of the child, only the parents.
Most were born as natural born subjects of England.
It is my opinion that Obama did not create it. I believe it to be the creation of the Department of Health in Hawaii, and that is why it is so amateurish.
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called Negroes. So how can the Obama birth certificate state he is African-American when the term wasn't even used at that time?
I regard this as evidence that the original record created in 1961 was NOT created in a hospital where it was likely they would have used a normal classification of race. This point reinforces the idea that his original birth certificate is based on a "born at home" affidavit filled out by his grandmother, and she put "African" down because she didn't know any better.
2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obamas birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obamas birth, it also shows that his father is age 25 years old and that Obamas father was born in Kenya, East Africa. This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obamas birth and 27 years after his father's birth.
This point is completely wrong. Yes, Kenya did exist prior to 1961. The entire region had been called "Kenya" for over a hundred years or more. Someone has even posted a Kenyan postage stamp from the 1950s. I couldn't find that stamp, but I did find this from 1957.
How could Obamas father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the British East Africa Protectorate. Wikipedia about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_Colony
The local people called themselves "Kenyans". They didn't care what was the Official British name for themselves. Since the place of Father's birth was being told by a native Kenyan, I am not going to worry about what the British thought it should be called. It is completely irrelevant. Apart from that, according to the stamps on this web page, even the British referred to it as Kenya.
3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called KauiKeolani Children's Hospital and Kapiolani Maternity Home, respectively. The name did not change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
This assertion is complete nonsense. The Nordyke's 1961 birth certificates also says "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. "
That is a FACT. Arguing that it shouldn't be so is ignoring reality.
Obama either doesn't know or he doesn't care that we aren't all as shockingly ignorant as his Democrat constituency.
Maybe not ignorant, but being misinformed is a worse condition. As Reagan said: "The trouble with our opponents is not that they are ignorant... it's that they know so much which isn't so. "
A dictator, such as Obama, only has the power that the people give him.
Currently at least 40 % of American voters are gladly willing to give him the necessary power to continue his dictatorship.
Dictator Obama has designed Obamacare to be active only AFTER he is re-elected, thus enabling THE NINE SUPREMES to delay ruling on the Constitutionality of the dictate of the individual mandate until Obama is once again the Illegal Foreign White House Occupier, (IFWHO).
The purpose of Dictator Baby-Doc Barack is simple: 1.) Regulate; 2.) Control; and 3.) Destroy. By his own count he as achieved 60 % of his goals.
His deep hatred of America could have only come from his childhood.
Since there are no known networks of childhood friends from Obamas past, Obama was probably a member of a Marxist sleeper cell funded by wealthy men with a Marxist view of the World.
The lack of credible evidence that has NOT been forged requires a long-term, highly skilled and well-funded support group.
Who the key members of Obamas probable support group and probable sleeper cell were and are is well known to the CIA and the FBI.
Will the Citizen Journalists such as Breitbart Editor Joel Pollack be able to out-spy these two tax-funded spy entities?
BTW, forget about the LAM, (Liberal Agenda Media), as they are saving their notes to write their tell-all Obama books after Obama has SAFELY retired back home in Kenya.
BTW, BTW, to all the doubters of the above speculation: what does your gut tell you?
I dont know, I havent seen it. Im just at the same place you are on that. You read this, you read that. But I dont understand why he didnt show that right away. I mean, if someone asked for my birth certificate, Id get my baby book and hand it out and say Here it is, so I dont know.Link
Isn't that the case anyhow, so what do any of them have to lose?
“But it was already obvious four years ago that not a single Republican leader cared a whit about the imperative provisions of the Constitution, when not a one of them would raise the question in the Congress when the electoral votes were tallied.”
We do need another hero. Aren’t there ANY Republics or Democrats that are not up for reelection to take this on.
Or, would they not want to risk themselves and there family’s security by taking this third rail. This hot potato.
Why didnt someone investigate this? I mean, where is everybody? Arpaio asked Klein. How come the federal agencies arent investigating? Were dealing with federal issues here. So everybodys hiding, and theyre still hiding.
Why isn’t there a revolt from rank and file law enforcement members of the FBI? The Secret Service?
Don’t they care about their children? Their country?
They want to let a Marxist, foreigner, forger, criminal, enemy combatant, dictator bankrupt their children’s future and imprison their freedoms?
Obama is like a blackmailer. They DON’T go away.
It will NOT get better only WORSE.
Why is Obama unhindered from destroying this country?
It’s astounding how many have aided this treason.
I’m almost tempted to tell my long-term congressman when he calls for support that he should uphold the Constitution and protect the nation from enemies both foreign and domestic like he took an oath to do when he was sworn in, and then I’ll consider whether or not I want to vote for him.
Let the onus be on them for once.
Then they are not worthy to call themselves Americans. This is not a game, even though they seem to think it is.
With running mate, Jan Brewer.
Kinda like Mitt the fall guys dad was a Mexican.
The GOP has turned into the DNC II.
“...few of our prominent citizens were natural born citizens...” True, but the Art. II language goes on “or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution...” So the Founders were clear as crystal on this requirement, 14 years post founding. They anticipated that their generation would not be around for but a few more elections and were likely biased toward those who were born here and Citizens in 1789. So, for example, Alexander Hamilton was unlikely to be considered as eligible.
“Most citizens were natural born citizens, but the framers wouldn't leave eligibility requirement for the president to Congress”
That is incorrect. Almost all U.S. citizens at that time were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. They were almost all born as natural born subjects to the Crown of England.
Now the $16 Trillion question: Why don't these agencies DO anything about it?
As long as the fraud is allowed to remain in place, the presidency is completely compromised and "Obama" is open to blackmail by any foreign government with a semi-decent intelligence service.
That's not even getting into all of the unconstitutional bs the guy and his Marxist fellow travelers are being allowed to get away with because all of the "powers that be" know that his pResidency is unconstitutional from the get-go.
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I'm glad you saved the correct answer until the end of your post. That's exactly it.
Over and above their fear of what getting plastered with the "birther" label might do to their reelection chances, I've become convinced that they've all been convinced (at least in their own self-serving minds) that "pulling down" America's Historic First Black President would have catastrophic consequences for national security.
Just deal with four years of this "green" joker's ineptitude and then let him and the constitutional questions concerning his eligibility or lack thereof quietly fade into the background of history when he's voted out upon completing a single term.
After all, how much damage could the guy and his Marxist fellow travelers do in that short amount of time?
As I see it, along with others, is that the Founders recognized the dilemma of excluding from the POTUSA existing citizens of the colonies. The Founders very knowingly crafted into the Constitution that these existing/living citizens and only these would be exempt from the ‘natural born citizen’ mandate.