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The new American household: 3 generations, 1 roof
http://money.cnn.com ^ | 4/9/2012 | Les Christie

Posted on 04/09/2012 1:29:14 PM PDT by dragnet2

As the economy continues to take a toll on consumers' finances, a growing number of people are discovering that becoming roommates with mom and dad, or a 20- or 30-something son or daughter, helps to ease some of the financial pain in tough times.

As of 2010, 4.4 million U.S. homes held three generations or more under one roof, a 15% increase from 3.8 million households two years earlier, according to the latest data available from the Census Bureau.

For multi-generational households, there is typically a nice payoff. Not only do they save money, but they are better able to avoid financial hardship.

"It's such an advantage to have multiple wage earners in the same household when the economy is still struggling." ... the multi-generational housing trend is one he expects will continue.

Census reported that "doubled up households," those including at least one extra adult who is not enrolled in school and isn't a spouse or partner, grew 10.7% to 21.8 million households in spring 2011, up from 19.7 million households four years earlier.

Many of those homes included adult children who flew back to the nest after being unable to find work. The number of 25- to 34-year olds living with their folks jumped by more than 25% between 2007 and 2001, Census reported.

Builders take note. "The recession caused doubling up to save money -- and the story is still unfolding,"

The long-term impact, he said, is that more families will want bigger homes with more bedrooms to accommodate their extended families.

In fact, so many relatives are already moving in with one another that builders are starting to construct homes to accommodate them.

Home builder Toll Brothers has started incorporating multi-generational living arrangements directly into its designs... Previously, such accommodations were offered only as custom options.

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In fact, so many relatives are already moving in with one another that builders are starting to construct homes to accommodate them.
1 posted on 04/09/2012 1:29:17 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

This is nothing new to friends of mine from Europe and Asia.


2 posted on 04/09/2012 1:30:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: All

We know of 4 families that now have extended family living with them.

You knew this was coming in a big way.

I see no problem as long as everyone contributes and helps out. It’s reaching a point where in most cases, there is no longer a choice.


3 posted on 04/09/2012 1:31:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

The US is turning into a poor country. We are soon going to look like China or Korea from 25+ years ago.


4 posted on 04/09/2012 1:32:43 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dragnet2

New? New??? When was it ever NOT like that, except maybe for the briefest period of time after, say, 1960?

Sheesh, the news “media” is getting lamer and lamer.


5 posted on 04/09/2012 1:32:50 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: dragnet2
You knew this was coming in a big way.

Coming??? It always was!

Yeah, things suck, but this isn't an indicator of it.

6 posted on 04/09/2012 1:34:31 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Kartographer

Back to the future - or would that be ‘Forward to the past’??

Prepper Ping....


7 posted on 04/09/2012 1:35:09 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: dragnet2

The not-quite-as-new American household: 3 generations, 1 welfare check, 1 public housing rat hole, 4 grams of crack, 15 bottles of malt liquor, 2 AK-47’s, 5 outstanding warrants, 27 stolen lottery tickets, 0 live at home fathers, 5 pairs of $200 designer sneakers...

...and a partridge in a pear tree.


8 posted on 04/09/2012 1:35:58 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits)
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To: Army Air Corps

You bet, and it’s now here.

These number below tell the story.

As of 2010, 4.4 million U.S. homes held three generations or more under one roof, a 15% increase from 3.8 million households two years earlier.

I know of people who’ve redesigned their homes, doing the work themselves, to accommodate family.

Times are tough, and it’s going to get tougher.


9 posted on 04/09/2012 1:36:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Larry Lucido

Try reading Larry.

This and other sources say this trend is rapidly *growing*, and we’ve seen this among friends just within the past two years or so.


10 posted on 04/09/2012 1:38:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Uncle Ike

Back to the past and this is not the only such changes we are going to be seeing. Hand me downs, scenod-hand stores, actually mending things instead of just throwing them away, eating at home.....


11 posted on 04/09/2012 1:39:28 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Uncle Ike

Back to the past and this is not the only such changes we are going to be seeing. Hand me downs, scenod-hand stores, actually mending things instead of just throwing them away, eating at home.....


12 posted on 04/09/2012 1:39:55 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: dragnet2

A return to the pre-WW-II culture of “The Waltons.”


13 posted on 04/09/2012 1:41:29 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: MarineDad

You seem totally detached from reality, suggesting this is only happening to those living in the ghetto.

Trust me, this is happening everywhere, including your neighborhood.


14 posted on 04/09/2012 1:42:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Yep. It is a survival mechanism in tough times. Those times are here. See, Obama is bringing America together! / sarc


15 posted on 04/09/2012 1:44:05 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: dragnet2

If I built such a house I would put in one kitchen and one or two mini-kitchens so say grandma and grandpa can cook their own stuff sometimes. Or maybe grandma likes her own space so she cooks some great old timey stuff in her mini-kitchen and brings it down for all to eat. Or can make cookies in her own oven for the grandchildren.

Obviously bathrooms are another thing you’ll need at least three of


16 posted on 04/09/2012 1:46:27 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: dragnet2
Less people vying for homes and apts but rents aren't going down. Less people using gasoline but prices are going up. Strange times.
17 posted on 04/09/2012 1:46:41 PM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Army Air Corps

We’re all becoming more equal under 0bama!


18 posted on 04/09/2012 1:47:07 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: dragnet2

This used to be the norm


19 posted on 04/09/2012 1:47:22 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: MarineDad
The not-quite-as-new American household: 3 generations, 1 welfare check, 1 public housing rat hole, 4 grams of crack, 15 bottles of malt liquor, 2 AK-47’s, 5 outstanding warrants, 27 stolen lottery tickets, 0 live at home fathers, 5 pairs of $200 designer sneakers... ...and a partridge in a pear tree.

Maybe elsewhere, but with two bedroom apartments going for $2000/mo and up around here, we have three generations, no welfare checks, no public housing, no crack, no alcohol, an undisclosed number of (legal) firearms, no wants nor warrants, paid-for lottery tickets, dads at home when they aren't working, and mmostly workboots, (no designer sneakers).

The trees are out back, and bear fruit in a good year--no partridge, though.

It isn't as bad as it has been, one daughter got a job which provides housing for her and the rest of her family.

Fixed income renters were hit hardest by the boom here (elderly, retired). Those who owned their homes have often sold for multiples of what they would have received in a 'normal' market, or are renting and living off the rent money elsewhere...

It isn't always a 'subsidized' situation, and I expect there will be more before there is less.

20 posted on 04/09/2012 1:47:33 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: dragnet2
It is not such a new idea.

It has been popular both here

and abroad.
21 posted on 04/09/2012 1:49:09 PM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: dragnet2

Not that long ago the lack of generations living in the same house was considered a bad social development, leading to a lack of connectedness and responsibility. Maybe there will be long term good out of this.


22 posted on 04/09/2012 1:52:57 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: Army Air Corps
"Obama is bringing America together! / sarc"

That is exactly the spin that is coming.

23 posted on 04/09/2012 1:56:15 PM PDT by NoExpectations
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To: jmcenanly
It is not such a new idea.

Understood, but the article and my point are, this tread is now growing rapidly.

24 posted on 04/09/2012 2:03:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yep.

Anyone thinking this is some “Ghetto” thing, must be detached from reality and in fact are likely living on government retirement checks delivered to their mail box.


25 posted on 04/09/2012 2:08:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

We lived for three years with my mother when we only had two small children and it worked out well - but I was glad to get out and run my own house my own way.

Now that she is older, it’s possible we’ll have her living with us some day. Would definitely want a separate apartment then, with mini-kitchen, her own bath and sitting room, which is getting into luxury territory not necessity.

And there are some of my children I would be happy to share a house with even when grown, and others who for their sake or our sake need to live on their own.

Ideal I think is to have the generations living close by, in the same town, but sharing a house can be good for some.


26 posted on 04/09/2012 2:10:41 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: dragnet2

We lived for three years with my mother when we only had two small children and it worked out well - but I was glad to get out and run my own house my own way.

Now that she is older, it’s possible we’ll have her living with us some day. Would definitely want a separate apartment then, with mini-kitchen, her own bath and sitting room, which is getting into luxury territory not necessity.

And there are some of my children I would be happy to share a house with even when grown, and others who for their sake or our sake need to live on their own.

Ideal I think is to have the generations living close by, in the same town, but sharing a house can be good for some.


27 posted on 04/09/2012 2:10:41 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: dragnet2

I grew up in a three generation home. Times were different then. The Grand pa was retired. Grand ma never worked. Both my parents worked and my sibling and I stayed home till out of college.

I am facing a three generation home now...oldest one retired, wife working, her daughter quit job, has no education, left drug dealing boyfirend and now is pregnant with nowhere to go but guess where.

Then again, it may be two households, one with a single older gentleman living alone.


28 posted on 04/09/2012 2:11:54 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: dragnet2

Another story about the Obama White House and Granny “Freeloader” Robinson?


29 posted on 04/09/2012 2:14:29 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: discostu
Not that long ago the lack of generations living in the same house was considered a bad social development, leading to a lack of connectedness and responsibility. Maybe there will be long term good out of this.

The Lord does work in mysterious ways.

30 posted on 04/09/2012 2:15:17 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Army Air Corps

“See, Obama is bringing America together!”

I think trying to put the repercussions of obama’s miserable policies in the best light possible is exactly the purpose of this article.

That said, our family is doing this, but we began planning for it about 10 years ago.

It’s working out great, but again, it’s not a forced situation for us and we all have our own spaces — kitchens/baths/parking/doors to the outside,etc.


31 posted on 04/09/2012 2:16:59 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: MarineDad

LOL

The MSM spins this as a good thing- “family togetherness” and all that. In reality, the fewer options you have, the less freedom you have.


32 posted on 04/09/2012 2:18:51 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: dragnet2
I'd rather not. I will if they need my help, but that's it. If I move my 33 year old ass back to ma and pa's, I'm under their house and their rules and I don't do well with authority. My parents and I get along great today. When I lived there, we didn't. I valued my freedom too much.
33 posted on 04/09/2012 2:24:05 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: dragnet2
This isn't really new to the USA. It just hasn't been that way since the end of WW2 (generally speaking).

I might go so far as to suggest that we were a better country back when this was the norm.

My wife and I are on the brink of buying a big ol’ house that might have been built (in 1908) with this sort of arrangement in mind.

I agree that anyone who can afford to move out on their own should have the right to do so. After all, that's what I did, nor did I move into my in-laws’ when I married. Both my parents, on the other hand, grew up in multigenerational households before heading out on their own, and benefited from the mutual support found therein.

34 posted on 04/09/2012 2:24:53 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Islam: a transnational fascist government that demands worship.)
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To: Kartographer
Hand me downs, second-hand stores, actually mending things instead of just throwing them away, eating at home.....

Not necessariy bad things, and arguably the path to a sort of prosperity...and sound practice in the best of times IMHO.

35 posted on 04/09/2012 2:30:43 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Islam: a transnational fascist government that demands worship.)
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To: dragnet2

The real problem is that there are fewer opportunities for children to capitalize on and become fully independent and plot their own course in life.


36 posted on 04/09/2012 2:32:32 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: ExGeeEye

Brings to mind a poignant conversation I overheard between an American and a gentleman from India who was working in the nursing home business.

The American guy asked him what nursing homes were like in India. After a long pause, he kind of rolled his eyes and said “We don’t have any. You must understand, in our culture there is a very strong obligation to take care of your parents, so you would never, ever see an Indian send them into a nursing home”.

The American gent was a bit taken aback by that answer, I could tell.


37 posted on 04/09/2012 2:32:32 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Uncle Ike

Future Present.


38 posted on 04/09/2012 2:52:56 PM PDT by AceMineral (Some people are too stupid for their own good.)
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To: Crucial
The real problem is that there are fewer opportunities for children to capitalize on and become fully independent and plot their own course in life.

Absolutely...In fact the children, those in their 20-30s who are making 9-15 bucks an hour doing whatever, will never be able to raise a family, buy a home etc. Throw in the ever increasing prices of everything and they don't have a chance.

39 posted on 04/09/2012 3:03:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TurboZamboni

We may not like it, but it’s all about socialism and the breakdown of the family:

Back in 1900, fully 57% of adults ages 65 and older did so. But over the course of the 20th century, older adults grew steadily healthier and more prosperous as a result of a range of factors, including the enactment of social safety net programs such as Social Security and Medicare and improvements in medical care.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2010/03/18/the-return-of-the-multi-generational-family-household/


40 posted on 04/09/2012 3:22:07 PM PDT by donna (This is the age of Republican-Feminism. We "feel right” has replaced being right!)
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To: Army Air Corps

“This is nothing new to friends of mine from Europe and Asia.”

It used to be the norm here.


41 posted on 04/09/2012 3:27:16 PM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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To: dragnet2

“In fact, so many relatives are already moving in with one another that builders are starting to construct homes to accommodate them.”

Hard to believe that those moving in together out of necessity will be shopping for these fancy new homes.


42 posted on 04/09/2012 3:34:29 PM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: Army Air Corps
This is nothing new to friends of mine from Europe and Asia.

It was typical in the US until after the Second World War. When soldiers came back home, with money to spend, and an economy that offered lots of jobs, builders started constructing small single family homes, which quickly displaced the old multi-family homes, or homes with In-Law apartments built on.

Now that it has gotten very expensive for younger people to buy homes, living with parents longer will be the norm for a while. And with older people not being able to take care of their homes, moving in with one of their children is a less expensive alternative to a nursing home.

43 posted on 04/09/2012 3:35:32 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: dragnet2

This was trending here before 2007, maxxed out square footage, designed to be economical to construct, basically a two storey box on a concrete slab, vinyl sided and very plain. I couldn’t figure out who wanted the things, but now I understand it a little better.

You can still see Great Depression era construction out in the country that was built for the same purpose. Such houses have two front doors.


44 posted on 04/09/2012 3:43:48 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: dragnet2

I should think the commies in chief would HATE this. If this keeps happening the next thing you know people are going to strengthen their families. Young couples will have babies because there will be somebody home to take care of them while they work. People will eat healthy meals because someone is there to cook the food. This could be really really bad for the goverment is all-in-all crowd!


45 posted on 04/09/2012 3:47:29 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: ichabod1

I agree.


46 posted on 04/09/2012 4:04:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Larry Lucido

I agree. this was normal for my family until after ww2 for the most part but even then homes were multigenerational. It was huge to be able to move out on your own back then. By the time I was born...in the 60s and ready to get married in 1989, just about everyone I knew lived at home until they got married. It was the way it was done in my area.

I know all families do things differently but in our house everyone is welcomed to live at home until they can make it on their own...and come back if need be.


47 posted on 04/09/2012 4:31:55 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I would never let my parents live in a nursing home. So I didn’t. My dad lived at home with my mom taking care do him and my sibs and I helped. After he died and my mom lived alone, we helped until she had to move in with us. She died here in our house with us caring for her.

I was fortunate in that my husband was the primary income. I was able to be a stay at home and be there for my parents when they couldn’t take care of themselves.

Sorry for typos...using an iPad and trying to figure it out lol.

Not sure many are financially able to do it this way. We made our choices..good and bad....I hope my kids can live on their own after college but if not then they are welcomed to live with us.


48 posted on 04/09/2012 4:59:02 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Crucial

True. Back in 1989, when I was married, we were able to buy our fist house in 1992 and our dream house in 2000. My kids won’t be able to do that here in our area. They couldn’t afford to live in this area. But they are able to attend college with little debt because we pay for room and board and they received academic scholarships.

Meant to say first married..

I keep telling my kids...live at home for a while to save money. Hoping they get ful time jobs in the area.

Maybe I’m too old school. Idk.


49 posted on 04/09/2012 5:10:54 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Crucial

True. Back in 1989, when I was married, we were able to buy our fist house in 1992 and our dream house in 2000. My kids won’t be able to do that here in our area. They couldn’t afford to live in this area. But they are able to attend college with little debt because we pay for room and board and they received academic scholarships.

Meant to say first married..

I keep telling my kids...live at home for a while to save money. Hoping they get ful time jobs in the area.

Maybe I’m too old school. Idk.


50 posted on 04/09/2012 5:11:03 PM PDT by Twink
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