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Why Obama's Birth Certificate Matters, Especially Now
American Thinker ^ | March 14, 2012 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 04/09/2012 7:47:30 PM PDT by neverdem

There was a time when someone could perhaps justify sitting on the fence on the matter of Barack Obama's birth certificate. There were those on the left who could chalk doubts about its authenticity up to conspiratorial internet paranoia. As for the right, there was every reason to worry about being the victims of an Alinsky-style setup designed to marginalize opponents. In other words, let the other side double down on an incredible claim, and then, at the most opportune time (October surprise?), provide irrefutable evidence to the contrary and make them look like deluded wackos. So, for a long time, there might have been reason to watch, wait, and let the wheels of investigation render their judgment.

That judgment is in, and the time for waiting is over.

With the results of Maricopa County, AZ sheriff Joe Arpaio's "Cold Case Posse," an incredible claim has become an incredible situation: a team of professional investigators, commissioned by a major law-enforcement agency, has determined that the alleged birth certificate produced by the president of the United States is a probable forgery.

Process that for a moment. The regime of the world's most powerful nation -- a republic that prides itself on adherence to the rule of law -- is likely peddling a forged document. What say you, citizen?

Note that I didn't claim that the president isn't natural-born. Rather, I claim nothing but am only stating a fact: there is now no denying that the birth-certificate matter warrants further investigation, and it is time for other law-enforcement agencies and the media to show due diligence. And I will spell out the possibilities here:

The Arizona investigators are correct. They are mistaken. They are lying.

For the record, I don't believe the last for a moment, but I do want to cover...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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21 posted on 04/09/2012 8:37:11 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: neverdem

” - - - we already are in a constitutional crisis. The only question now is whether we’re going to fight the fire or continue to fiddle while the Constitution burns. “

Well said.


22 posted on 04/09/2012 8:39:01 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: DanMiller

” This too should perhaps just be a thought experiment for anyone desiring to be invited again.

How do we overcome this sort of problem? “

Term limits for idiot and traitorous politicians.

I don’t give a good G*d-damn if they are invited to parties or not. Put them on a short leash, and they won’t give a damn about parties, either.


23 posted on 04/09/2012 8:39:53 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: I am bigjohn

The reason no one will address this issue higher up is due to the chaos this country would be thrown into if a sitting president were proven to be an imposter.


That’s their excuse for being chickens. THe country is already being thrown into chaos and it will only get worse, esp. if those who know that he’s an imposter keep playing charades.


24 posted on 04/09/2012 8:41:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Mr. K

On government forms? Most certainly.

The breakdown was pretty simple and all government forms used the same terms. Even in 1976, “black” was not allowed on government forms. The box said “negro”. It was not a pejorative and was not treated as such, although the n-word was already taboo.

“African”? On a birth certificate from that time?

Not. A. Chance.

Correct forms are in the government blood. Admin clerks freak if the wrong colored ink is used to sign documents.

That word wouldn’t make it past the first chain of editors before being corrected back to the government approved term.


25 posted on 04/09/2012 8:42:49 PM PDT by Ronin (Sarah.... We really need you now!)
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To: neverdem; All

26 posted on 04/09/2012 8:44:22 PM PDT by Zakeet (Obozo is to competent as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
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To: I am bigjohn

The reason no one will address this issue higher up is due to the chaos this country would be thrown into if a sitting president were proven to be an imposter.


The country is already in chaos. The evil bastard needs to

be in Leavenworth...or Gitmo.


27 posted on 04/09/2012 8:49:42 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: hoosiermama

Who is the guy with 0bastar*?

Thanks for the pings even if I don’t make comments...too busy lately.


28 posted on 04/09/2012 8:50:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Meet the New Boss
Maybe. I hadn't thought of it that way, but going back to the "off-mic" episode, didn't Obama really sound like some mark explaining to a loan-shark's flunky why he couldn't cover the vig this week?

Well, didn't he just?

"Yo dude! Don't you dare blow the whistle now! Let me get in again next time and I'll really kick ass." That's what he really meant. He was practically whining...

I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

29 posted on 04/09/2012 8:51:56 PM PDT by Ronin (Sarah.... We really need you now!)
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To: DanMiller

Obama’s birth certificate matters only to us who are in no position to do anything about it. We didn’t vote for him and that’s all we could do then and can do now.


30 posted on 04/09/2012 10:03:53 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: neverdem
What say you, citizen?

What's for dinner?

31 posted on 04/09/2012 10:21:04 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Eccl 10:2; al baby; quantim
This, too, is why it matters."

To both:


32 posted on 04/09/2012 10:36:19 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: neverdem

One things for sure.... We simply cannot afford to suffer this clown for another 4 years.


33 posted on 04/09/2012 10:47:41 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: ILS21R

Why? Just because his grandmother says she was there and says so?.../s


34 posted on 04/09/2012 11:00:28 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: neverdem

I’m afraid the American people have spoken on this, and they do not want any truth contrary to their decision of 2008.


35 posted on 04/10/2012 3:51:30 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: neverdem

“..look like deluded wackos “

there has always been plenty here on FR that wanted to make anyone claiming his BC was fake look like ‘wackos’


36 posted on 04/10/2012 4:10:53 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Inyo-Mono
I believe it says “African” which to me could be plausible for the time as his father was from Africa whereas an American would have been referred to as a “Negro” although at the time, 1962, the only terms I heard were Negro or Colored.

No, "African" would not have been plausible as race in 1961 or any other time. There are millions of people who are not black who are African and whose ancestors have been for hundreds to thousands of years. In 1962 the term used for black as race was Negro. "African" on a document purporting to be official is pretty much clear evidence of something being wrong with that document. It would be like someone offering you an ancient coin with the date of 7 BC.
37 posted on 04/10/2012 4:17:11 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan; Inyo-Mono
At the time the BC was released freeper did quite a bit of research, Many countries in Africa have both Dutch and British heritage. Three terms were used in those countries to denote race. “Afrikan” was used for the aboriginal race that had no European blood. There were also terms for mulattoes and Caucasians. IIRC South Africa still uses all three terms.

I suspect that when the Kenyan BC was viewed in HI someone thought they were correcting the spelling. That transfer of information could have even been done at adoption, nullification of adoption or when a grandmother registered his birth.

38 posted on 04/10/2012 4:42:53 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama
At the time the BC was released freeper did quite a bit of research, Many countries in Africa have both Dutch and British heritage. Three terms were used in those countries to denote race. “Afrikan” was used for the aboriginal race that had no European blood. There were also terms for mulattoes and Caucasians. IIRC South Africa still uses all three terms. I suspect that when the Kenyan BC was viewed in HI someone thought they were correcting the spelling. That transfer of information could have even been done at adoption, nullification of adoption or when a grandmother registered his birth.

That's an interesting take, but coming into the U.S., I think the relevant department would "translate" whatever they see on a foreign BC into whatever the equivalent and legal term is here. In Barry's case, it would have been Negro. I think "African" on the purported birth certificate is an artifact of 1. the forger's relative ignorance of things before his birth and 2. the modern, liberal forger's almost unconscious shying away from the politically-incorrect "Negro." Remember that school that characterized the photographer's exhibit of black South Africans as "African-American South Africans"? I think the same level of brain stem "thought" was at work in this forgery.
39 posted on 04/10/2012 4:54:34 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Mr. K

My arguments with non birthers relate to this point. They use the fact that the Nordyke long form states they’re “white” when the required term is Caucasian.


40 posted on 04/10/2012 5:42:22 AM PDT by STJPII
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