Posted on 04/09/2012 7:47:30 PM PDT by neverdem
There was a time when someone could perhaps justify sitting on the fence on the matter of Barack Obama's birth certificate. There were those on the left who could chalk doubts about its authenticity up to conspiratorial internet paranoia. As for the right, there was every reason to worry about being the victims of an Alinsky-style setup designed to marginalize opponents. In other words, let the other side double down on an incredible claim, and then, at the most opportune time (October surprise?), provide irrefutable evidence to the contrary and make them look like deluded wackos. So, for a long time, there might have been reason to watch, wait, and let the wheels of investigation render their judgment.
That judgment is in, and the time for waiting is over.
With the results of Maricopa County, AZ sheriff Joe Arpaio's "Cold Case Posse," an incredible claim has become an incredible situation: a team of professional investigators, commissioned by a major law-enforcement agency, has determined that the alleged birth certificate produced by the president of the United States is a probable forgery.
Process that for a moment. The regime of the world's most powerful nation -- a republic that prides itself on adherence to the rule of law -- is likely peddling a forged document. What say you, citizen?
Note that I didn't claim that the president isn't natural-born. Rather, I claim nothing but am only stating a fact: there is now no denying that the birth-certificate matter warrants further investigation, and it is time for other law-enforcement agencies and the media to show due diligence. And I will spell out the possibilities here:
The Arizona investigators are correct. They are mistaken. They are lying.
For the record, I don't believe the last for a moment, but I do want to cover...
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Mother as Caucasian.
I believe it says “African” which to me could be plausible for the time as his father was from Africa whereas an American would have been referred to as a “Negro” although at the time, 1962, the only terms I heard were Negro or Colored.
it states “african” which is a term that was never used in those days
Africa is a continent. People from all the countries on that continent with negroid skin and characteristics were call “Negroes” - It was Not a term of derision, as some think it is today.
A birth certificate in that year would have said Negro. I bet you can not find one birth certificate from anywhere in the world that lists race as African (except Obama’s)
It wasn’t until the 1970’s that the word ‘negro’ was replace by “african american”
American are stupid enough to go to Africa and STILL call black people “african amercians” over there
Try this little experiment (the second of two suggested in the linked article):
Belief in President Obama’s presidential eligibility is fashionable, “birtherism” is unfashionable. At a properly fashionable cocktail party, perhaps in Washington, D.C., try this experiment: deny — or merely express skepticism — that there is global warming or that man is its principal cause. Deny — or merely express skepticism — that President Obama is constitutionally qualified under Article II of the Constitution as a “natural born citizen.” This too should perhaps just be a thought experiment for anyone desiring to be invited again.How do we overcome this sort of problem?
On one hand one might say “give it a rest” since
Obama is now running for a second term. On the ot-
her hand it surely didn’t bother the ‘Rats to re-
hash the military record of GW when he was running
for re-election..............
This is much more serious and has far reaching repercussions.
The reason no one will address this issue higher up is due to the chaos this country would be thrown into if a sitting president were proven to be an imposter.
Think about it.
The question is whether it hurts us more than it hurts Obama. If a whisper campaign questioning Obama's citizenship could really damage him, I'd be all for it (even though I think it is likely bunk). Unfortunately, I think just being associated with birthers stains otherwise good conservatives credibility and is to be avoided at all costs - much like the left tucked their truthers away in forum dungeons (and they are still there).
Birtherism is never going to amount to anything, and is in danger of completely beclowning itself (to the extent it hasn't already) if these people start claiming Rubio and Romney aren't eligible either - but if they'd just stick with mounting a quiet whisper campaign against Hussein I'd be a whole lot more sympathetic because they just might do some good. Just don't try to put any of our elected officials in positions of having to defend this stuff. It would be better if they could play dumb and act unaware of the birthers operating behind the scenes to raise questions about who Hussein really is.
It’s never too late to vet. Since vetting never happened for The Won, why not start now? Let’s treat it as ne novo information and pretend we never heard any of it bfore - Oh? Please tell me more....
It does not matter.
Solyndra fleeced us a half-billion $$$ and Barky’s bro is still in a mud hut in Kenya.
Here is how you get this issue front and center, and make a little money while doing it.
Have town meetings in large auditoriums around the country. Have 5 star communicators with all the facts succinctly stated and skillfully presented. Sell reasonably priced tickets, with advance publicity. Move the presentation to major metro areas around the country and the local media will cover it even if the national media will not.
If is done right, the national media will eventually have report the facts they seem to want to ignore.
regardless of where he was born, he is not natural born as required by article II section 1 clause 5. the USSupreme Court in 1874 defined NATURAL BORN AS BEING BORN OF TWO U.S. CITIZENS.
regardless of where he was born, he is not natural born as required by article II section 1 clause 5. the USSupreme Court in 1874 defined NATURAL BORN AS BEING BORN OF TWO U.S. CITIZENS.
regardless of where he was born, he is not natural born as required by article II section 1 clause 5. the USSupreme Court in 1874 defined NATURAL BORN AS BEING BORN OF TWO U.S. CITIZENS.
It comes down whether we are a nation of laws or a nation of men.
Postmodernists believe that law is nothing more than one of a number of tools used by the powerful to oppress and exploit those with less power. So, there is not much respect for the law qua law for men of the Left like Obama.
In some ways it is like the Clinton legal transgressions relating to Paula Jones. A sitting president was given a pass by the US Senate on perjury and obstruction of justice. The legal system was perverted for the personal benefit of Bill Clinton (although he was ultimately disbarred and it was reported that Paula Jones received a large settlement.)
With respect to Obama situation, in the case of an ordinary US citizen who was caught presenting documents that appear forged in order to obtain or qualify for some important benefit, that citizen would be held to account under the law. But for Obama, it is more important that he be allowed to run for president than it is that he have to comply with legal requirements.
Historians may look back and point to the Clinton and Obama cases where, like in the age of kings, leaders of the Left were held to be above the law and this was one of the important markers in the effective loss of a constitutional republic and a nation of laws.
Foreign governments like Russia and China probably have the goods on Obama and use it as leverage.
This is an important reason why presidents should be required to be transparent and not allowed to hide so much of their personal records, so that America is not subject to the consequences of blackmail.
This, too, is why it matters.
Obama was born in Kenya.
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