Posted on 04/10/2012 6:48:34 AM PDT by marktwain
Talking with a friend of mine, he said something interesting.
He is connected to the local State Patrol.
In some places, 911 operators work under/have a commission from the local sheriff/state patrol.
SOMETIMES 911 warnings/direction DO CARRY THE FORCE OF LAW!
Just mentioning it because I don’t want fellow FReepers to automatically assume something a 911 operator says is “just a suggestion”. So people should check their local jurisdictions.
I may have to revise my terminology for a couple of fights I was in back in school. :)
And always bring a gun to to a gunfight.
There was no "initial questioning." The two exchanged no words till very shortly before things got physical.
I see no reason we should respond to liberal pre-judgment of this case by doing the same in reverse.
BTTT
What makes it confusing is a few seconds before, the same operator tells Zimmerman (twice) "Just let us know if he does anything else". Kind of hard to do if you don't have eyes on the suspect. Zimmerman followed directions.
I've only gotten to the first paragraph of "facts," and there are already 2 errors... good grief...
1)Zimmerman didn't call 911. He called the non-emergency police number.
2) Zimmerman did not volunteer that Trayvon was black. He was specifically asked if the guy was "white, black or Hispanic."
[[What’s important is that we the citizens have the proper information]]
Whaqt world are you living in? That’s NOT what is important- the ONLY thing important in this case is whether you are black or white- IF you arwe black, then Martin was just an innocent lkittle child goign to the storwe to get skittles, and the big mean ‘white’ george zimmerman was out on pastrol hoping to hunt down innocent little black kids because he was swo racist-
The black community does NOT care abotu hte FACVTS- PERIOD! They and the media are determiend to make htis abotu ‘justice ofr trayvon’ despite the fact that zimmerman ONLY shot him as a last resort in an effort to save hisw own life as trasyvon went for his gun.
None of hte FACTS matter to hte black community- George zimmernman in their mind visciously hunterd down Trayvon like an animal, and shot him in cold blood DESPITE ALL the FACTS to the contrary- they want this to be abotu raqce, and by damn, that’s exactly what this IS goign to be about!
Accordign to hte witrnesses, there was no fight, there was however a criminal assault on zimmerman by a thug kid, and according to witnesses an attempt by martin at murder- bashing someone’s head into concrete is intent to murder. I fully expect we’ll be hearing al sharpton and the press come out and condemn trayvon for attempting to murder zimmerman, any day now-
Who says? The undertaker? Or is the ME's report out?
Clearly, there was a fight. Over Zimmerman's gun. The fact that the spent round was still in the chamber indicates multiple hands were gripping it, preventing proper cycling and ejection of the cartridge.
Actually, Trayvon's girlfriend DeeDee apparently did hear the beginning of the fight. There are some of her comments here
She said that Trayvon said: "What are you following me for?" to which Zimmerman replied: "What are you doing around here?" and then she surmised that the headset fell, attributing it to Zimmerman attacking Trayvon. As far as I know, she did not publicly report hearing anything else after the headset fell.
It would appear that was the time that the physical altercation started. Does it make sense that Zimmerman would attack Trayvon at this point, or that Trayvon would attack Zimmerman? Remember, Zimmerman had the police coming. Zimmerman reported that he went for his phone. Perhaps Trayvon thought he was going for a weapon, and decided to go on the offensive.
Yeah, I've heard that one quite a bit. Ignored in the analysis is this question: How does a slightly pudgy middle-aged man chase down and assault a taller, wiry teenaged football player in the rain? Can't ever get an answer to that....
It only exposes the lunacy of their position. And they are completely blind to it. And they call you names if you even try to point it out.
And there are a LOT of them.
They only interacted once, not twice.
It appears Zimmerman took the police suggestion to drop his pursuit of Martin, had lost track of Martin, and was heading back to his truck when Martin accosted him, evidently royally pissed at having been 'profiled' and intent on messing up whitey.
Because Martin was black, Zimmerman was supposed to let him give him brain damage or kill him. That’s the Left’s argument. And teenagers can kill adults. It happens over and over.
She surmised, did she? Obviously, Trayvon terminated the call. If the headset had merely fallen, she would have been able to hear quite a lot. The shouting and the gunshot are audible on at least one of the 911 calls, which were over phones a lot further removed from the site.
Hopefully, T-Mobile has exact call times. Cell carriers keep their computer clocks dead accurate.
If it does not get to trial, I hope everyone is at a personal defcon2 status.
Standing by at DEFCON 3 for now, with REDCON 3 set. If there's an arrest of Zimmerman, we'll go to REDCON 2.
Defense readiness conditions (DEFCONs) describe progressive alert postures primarily for use between the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the commanders of unified commands. DEFCONs are graduated to match situations of varying military severity, and are numbered 5,4,3,2, and 1 as appropriate. DEFCONs are phased increases in combat readiness. In general terms, these are descriptions of DEFCONs:
DEFCON 5 Normal peacetime readiness
DEFCON 4 Normal, increased intelligence and strengthened security measures
DEFCON 3 Increase in force readiness above normal readiness
DEFCON 2 Further Increase in force readiness, but less than maximum readiness
DEFCON 1 Maximum force readiness.
If this goes to trial, it will be either an acquital or a hung jury...then the SHTF big time, just as you suggest. I’d be at personal defcon2 status regardless.
You are correct. I find her testimony to be a bit suspect because she has not been identified and the Martin family attorney refuses to give her identity to anyone but federal investigators. Federal investigators from Eric Holder's justice department, who have already been on notice to give "his people" a pass.
I would very much like to be able to see and compare all the phone records for this case and compare the time lines. From what I can tell, there is at most a one minute gap where there are no phone records. It may be that the gap is entirely nonexistent.
Yes, she surmised. Here is what she said from the previous link: "Then somebody pushed Trayvon, because the headset just fell." That's the end of her comments in the ABC interview. Now, whether or not she heard more, or if the phone broke, or Trayvon terminated the call, that's not public knowledge as far as I know. The police should have the exact time that the call ended, so they are in a position to question her if the call continued.
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