Skip to comments.RICK SANTORUM IS SUSPENDING RACE FOR PRESIDENT.
Posted on 04/10/2012 11:10:44 AM PDT by Spunky
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To be brutally honest, the ballot box has become a worthless lost cause regardless of party. Some form of secession is probably our only hope. No “obama alternative” is going to change anything either.
He won’t even come close in Texas. What a bunch of dreamers you FRingrichers are.
Someone on FR explained to me that “suspending” is a legal term. It give the campaign organization time to pay off its debts to creditors.
Newt finished dead last in 5 of 10 Super Tuesday states.
Newt didn’t have a chance.
Internals showed him losing PA... that would end without quesiton his political career.. he quit. He served his purpose to stop gingrich and ensure Romney..
Once a jackass always a jackass.. par for the course for Santorum. How badly does an electorate have to send a guy packing for folks who don’t live in his district to comprehend hes been rejected for good reason?
Sigh.. thanks for Romney folks.
The question now is how badly do we want to beat Obama. Don’t stay home. At the very least vote for conservatives in the House and Senate (if any are running this cycle). If we can take the Congress away and put people in who have the guts to tell Obama, NO, he can not just run roughshod over the Constitution, then we can survive another 4 years.
I have long said that the very moment that Romney becomes the nominee, Obama wins another 4 years.
Vote your conscience, I most certainly will mine.
Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again. ~ Ronald Reagan, from his first inaugural speech as governor of California, January 5, 1967
Ronald Reagans warning about losing our freedoms echoes down through a generation of lost momentum and squandered opportunity.
We now have the most ignorant electorate in the history of American elections. I believe we have the most corrupt government and media our country has ever seen.
I believe that Newt was the one leader that could have turned our country away from the abyss, intelligently and quickly.
It is abundantly clear that not enough folks shared my beliefs, instead of a leader, they wanted a preacher.... and far too many lacked the courage to forgive and look beyond the personal sins in a mans past and into the promise of a brighter future for our country. That is certainly a free choice and a personal choice.... and as it is with all choices, there will be consequences.
In any case, Americans will get the country it apparently wants and a country it so richly deserves.
That's not a prerequisite for suspending a campaign.
"The legal loophole you describe does not change the meaning of "Suspend" or "End".
Actually it does.
What Santorum just did is END his campaign"
No. Santorum will no doubt continue to have elements of his campaign at work soliciting and trying to raise funds to pay off his debts. That can only be done while he has a campaign registered with the FEC. The public aspects of his campaign, speaking appearances, campaign stops etc. will suspend, but the campaign is not over.
If he said he was terminating, or ending his campaign, that would be dishonest. You're the one who demanded he use "precision", specific honest language. He did, and you're pissed off at him because you're too obtuse to understand the meaning of the words he used.
Newton Leroy Gingrich is a dead-man walking. Has been for a month or more. He knows it. Why is it so hard for you to see?
He’s already making nice to Romney.
It’s a choice between a socialist and a Communist now. America had it within itself to make a positive change, but enough people chose the charlatan with the gold tooth. Our education system has produced dupes aplenty in both parties, and we as a people have strayed far from God and our founding. IDK, do we deserve better? I think not. Bob
Get well Bella !
2016 may well be too late for all of us. Sorry for the pessimism, but that’s my assessment. Bob
Time to hibernate. Welcome to pure socialism. Hope the starving neighbors don’t wake me up in the middle of the night. Wonder if Siberia has got the Climat Change notice yet.
You can vote for the GOP-e picks, as they count on you drones who can't vote your conscience.
So long as you vote (R), you don't care what asshole liberal the GOP-e shoves up your a$$.
Sorry....I ain't votin' for Obama, but I ain't votin' for his "half-brother-type", either.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Herman Cain also “suspended” his campaign.
You must be right. I know a few of you likes Newt, so do I.
After SC he just could not make it. If he can't make it through the Primary, how do you expect him to get elected?
As for Santorum, at first, I knida liked him. Then he began his childish tantrums and started to play with kids toys. Serious voters were turned off.
My opinion, Santorum got out when he could see no sign of winning his home state. He was on a big ego trip and to lose his home state was too much to take. Plus, after he lost him home state, where would he go from there?
Just my opinion!!!
Same here; there's no stopping The Messiah now, as I'm looking where to hide when the looting and riots start, when the money runs out, and the inner city tribal parasites head for the suburbs to take what they were promised.
Montana and Idaho sound pretty good right now.
OK, I’ll do it:
Santorum is one cowardly bastard for calling it NOW and NOT aftat the convention.
Even if he’d have gone and won in PA and then quit, I’d have a lot more respect for him than I do now, because what he did today was more cravenly political than anything I’ve seen out of Romney so far.
Here’s why - Had Santorum stayed in and LOST PA, he’d be done politically. But, here’s what both Santorum and Romney both know - If Romney’s pink, Santorum’s just a shade lighter.
All of this is kabuki, and frankly, the only guy I have any respect for is Gingrich. Had Santorum stayed and fought, they may have had enough delegates in there to throw it to a conservative at the convention - a Hail Mary, but a fight to the last conservative too.
The smoke went up the chimney on Romney from before the primaries, and the GOP/E was pissed they had to blow the cash and political capital they did trying to defend Romney.
As we sit here today, Romney has already lost. The debate will consist of the following:
OBAMA: “First, I want to thank Governor Romney for pioneering the Affordable Care Act. His courage in Massachusetts allowed us to learn from his mistakes, and as such we produced a better bill. Governor Romney, we could not have passed the Affordable Care Act without you.”
ROMNEY: “ . . . . . but, I know business . . . .”
Now, I don’t care what anyone says, Romneycare was a FATAL DISQUALIFICATION FOR THE JOB OF THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE. He had a chance to disavow it, but that time passed. His judicial record is a mess too, so there is exactly zero reason why voting for him is going to make any positive difference at all in November. Not even the excuse of lifetime appointments to SCOTUS justifies voting for him, because there is zero evidence of him putting a conservative on the bench in MA.
Let’s say Romney somehow overcomes even this, and pulls it off. You realize he’s only slightly more conservative than Obama, but because of the R in back of his name, they’ll hand the blame for the inevitable mess on the entire party, not just him.
I was in the Wax Museum in SF, and they have a bunch of recent Presidents there. Reagan’s nameplate said “The Great Communicator”. GHW Bush’s - “Strong in international affairs”. Clinton (who’s impeached) said - “First Democrat to win a second term since FDR”. George W Bush’s nameplate? Nothing. Just his name.
Obama? “First African-American President”. That’s all they will ever know him for. He can wreck the country, but he’ll never be notorious. Ever.
Here’s what we learned with Dole, GHW Bush, and McCain - given the choice between a guy who comes out and tells you he’s a pinko, and a guy who’s a pinko, but says he’s not, people will pick the more apparently honest of the two.
For me, I’ll be voting for a Conservative. At least I can live with myself, and when Obama wins, if he finishes the job of wrecking the country, he’ll get the full credit for the task.
A pox on Santorum for not sticking it out. He knew the price his family was going to pay when they made the decision to run in the first place. He shepherded all the GOP values voters into a big bleating herd and led you away from Gingrich.
Gingrich has flaws, but he can admit when he’s made a mistake, and he delivered the Contract with America, and won an R Congress in 1994. He achieved welfare reform, and got a Democrat to sign the bill. He was the only adult running for the job at the time.
So, now here all the bleating values voters sit. Your shepherd went for the shade of ‘Senate Incumbancy Forever’ in the soft pink confines of Pennsylvania. Happy Valley indeed.
You guys all need to get dressed for dinner. The MSM will be around soon, wolves that they are, asking where your daddy went. Be a good lamb and bring along some mint jelly with you when they come around. Mint jelly goes great with barbecued sheep.
Santorum owed it to us to stay in until the convention. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out there was a deal cut.
You must plow the fields with the oxen God gave you.
His delegate status should be respective of party rules, not laws and legal status.
In the past when a candidate got out of the race they "ended" the compaign. Now we've apparently invented yet another reason to say one thing but mean another. Which means there is no SPECIFIC meaning to anything Santorum just did or said and there in lies the problem. Is he in or is he out? Well that depends, can't be the answer if we are going to communicate.
When we learned the words "see spot run" it meant...."see spot run". We didn't read aloud "see spot run" then turn to Robert Shapiro and whisper "what does that really mean?".
Rick Santorum was not truthful when he stated he was "suspending" his campaign.
Anyway he is out and we MUST get behind Mitt!
It’s all a matter of choice. You can choose another 4 years of marxism, if you so choose, and apparently, you have. Enjoy what little freedoms you have left - hope we have a nice funeral for them.
Romney, was NOT my choice - never has been and never will be, but, he’s still a far better choice than obama.
So, save your rhetoric for someone who gives a da**.
I neglected to mention a few things in post #109.
I truly believe that Santorum supporters followed their convictions and I have no issue with that, just as the rest of us should follow ours.
They saw Santorum as a strong conservative, I did not. I see Newt as a strong conservative, they disagree.
Life will go on and some of will survive, while some of us won’t.... but that is the nature of life.
I believe that God needs to bless this country again, we, all of us, really do need it.
Like it or not, we all now have front row seats for the apocalypse.
It’s funny; as a SANTORUM SUPPORTER I predicted this in my March 28th video:
“The Math is insurmountable but Newt’s Role is IMPORTANT”
http://youtu.be/az4R3eUOgaM in which I addressed the importance of having NEWT staying in this race.
It is apparent that the Romney Sleaze machine promised either the VP slot or a cabinet position.
I did NOT support Santorum for anything accept for President and I will NOT be bamboozled again by these charlatans pulling the strings in the GOP like Karl Rove. They can kiss my ass.
So our choice is supposed to be between a communist and a cultist - both of whom are pathological liars????
No, thank you, nothing has changed for conservatives. We must send money AND vote for Newt and still fight to our last dying breath to deprive this ignoble SOB the nomination.
And if he gets the nomination - I will find a conservative for whom to vote.
no problem, just vote for obama directly, same thing.
Santorum’s sole goal from day one was to hand the nomination to Romney.
I won't vote for those I'm TOLD I have choices for, when they're nothing but RINO's like Romney. We will never rid ourselves of the GOP-e giving us Liberals, with an (R) next to their name.
Let Willard put The Messiah back in the White Hut, which is what is going to happen now.
Yes he did. As someone else pointed out above, “suspension” also allows the candidate to hold on to their delegates until the convention. Don’t know if that’s true or not, but it makes sense.
They are like divorce lawyers. They are all friends who went to the same few law schools, as did the judges. They estimate the size of the estate, then make the husband and wife fight until they have split all the possilbe funds. THEN they suggest a settlement.
Ok I get it. I guess I don't understand the meaning of "campaign". In this context I thought that meant Rick Santorum was running for political office but I guess it really means soliciting funds and paying off debts. He is no longer running for president but he is still campaigning in suspended mode.....
Is George Bush still campainging? Is World War Two over or is it just suspended? I'm just curious....
Couldn’t have said it better...
that’s how Mclame lost...too many “independents” wanting to “teach” the GOP a lesson...
now we have the nightmare known as O’bummer...
Send Ricky more moolah, since he’s so honest, and only suspended the campaign. Don’t want him to go back to his roots at a steel mill, do you? By the way, I’m still waiting for the campaigns suspended 4 years ago, because the candidates were so “honest” to end.
My family and I will NEVER pull the lever for that liberal phoney, Mitt Romney.
"In this context I thought that meant Rick Santorum was running for political office but I guess it really means soliciting funds and paying off debts."
Raising funds is part of a campaign. The FEC is very explicit about that, and the rules for doing so. That's the game in which Santorum is in at present, and consequently those are the rules and therefore the language by which he must abide. A "Suspended" campaign is placed in a certain legal status, which is different than an undeclared campaign or a campaign that has been concluded. It's no different than a person's dirver's license status which may be: 1) unlicensed, 2) learner's permit 3) fully licensed 4) restricted 5) suspended 6) revoked 7) expired.
If one has a revoked license but tells somebody their license is expired, they are being dishonest. You are the one that self-righteously demanded Rick be honest and forthright, and all Rick did was state the exact legal status into which he was placing his campaign. If he had stated he was going to wrap up and conclude his campaign he would have been lying.
"Is George Bush still campainging?"
I believe his campaign operations have been officially closed, but it's not uncommon for campaigns to solicit funds long after a race has been decided. IIRC, Hillary's campaign in 2008 remained active well into 2009 simply to raise funds to retire her campaign's debts. In order to do so, she would have been required to have kept her campaign in a "suspended" status during that timeframe with the FEC.
"Is World War Two over or is it just suspended? I'm just curious...."
Being that the axis powers formally (and legally) tendered their unconditional surrenders, it's over.
Yea four more years of Zero!!
All things considered, he made the right move. The republic is better served by reluctantly accepting an outside chance to elect a trainable RINO than in conceding defeat to a hard core Marxist.
LOL. I an actively working on getting all Conservatives I know to NOT vote for mitt, but do a write-in. We can still vote down the ticket for Conservatives.
Mitt and his staff and MOST of his supporters loathe Conservatives. Any Conservative that votes for Mitt will betray our Constitution. Mitt would do absolutely nothing to turn our Republic towards Liberty.
I will pray every day that Mitt will somehow be denied the nomination.
I was down in DC standing in front of the WH last Wednesday. I had a vision of unfurling a huge banner and hanging it on the fence:
"Better a Mormon than a Muslim"
He says its a political "distinction" and is NOT legal. It gives wiggle room to get back in. In other words NOT ENTIRELY TRUTHFUL! It's clear continuing to solicit funds would be a technical status with the FEC but has nothing to do with whether they publicly say the are out of the race or not.
Before Reagan and Newt came along the Repugs were a permanent minority party and liked it that way. They shouted down conservative “extremists” and loved their socialist, politically correct pals at the DNC. They were very happy with this arrangment for forty years. They really don’t care if they have the Presidency as long as they had the Senate to tweak the socialist proposals and the globalist transfer of power.
Newt and Reagan ruined it all and brought in the power and agenda of the riff raff which made them angry. Many of them retired in a tizzy. The unwashed American-Americans had arrivved!
No offense but you are waisting your much needed time and effort. Mitt will be the nominee baring unlikely unforseen circumstances. We will have a choice of Obama or Romney. I say we get behind Mitt and "suspend" Obamas presidency!
Blame the half-dozen conservatives who decided to run against the one moderate.
And we are somehow shocked the moderate wins the nomination?
They did this in Kansas for a long time, and guess what....the conservatives lost. Same thing here.
Disgusting, but not exactly a shocking outcome. One person gets a lot more votes than five or six splitting the vote, and all that in-fighting led to no cohesive conservative candidate.
Santorum is only ‘suspending’ his campaign so he can continue to raise funds to clear as much of his debt as possible.
I think this may very well destroy FR, and I fear what will happen over the next few months.
As for our nation, there goes the conservative SCOTUS, and any chance of getting it finally fully five votes conservative, not swing vote conservative-leaning.
But if you did that, you'd have the ROPers and the fundies both wanting to lynch you.
OK...I was wrong (if MSNBC is to be believed) about the “legal” status. Nevertheless, there are elements of his campaign still active in soliciting funds, and Rick remains on the ballot in any number of remaining states. He’s not actively campaigning, but nor has he shut down his operation completely, and will no doubt, still receive at least a small number of votes (just like Bachmann and Perry have been getting). Not sure why you think “suspended” is such a poor description when it has not in fact, been “ended” or “terminated”.
I cant believe we are stuck with another mccain, only this time a mormon mccain. Our Republic is truly lost.