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April 10, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/10/2012 12:29:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

To hell with the GOP-e. Barring a miracle, they got their big government, unconstitutional mandate loving, socialist abortionist Obama-lite RINO on the ballot, they can now get him elected.

We are the resistance!!

Shove him down our throats today, we shove him up your donkeys in November!!

I can see November from my house!!


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To: Nik Naym

“Then why are you crapping on the board?”

I think you’re embarrassing yourself.


1,001 posted on 04/10/2012 10:44:44 PM PDT by navydad
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To: Norm Lenhart

“As a Navy Dad, do you believe in defending the right to vote for people we believe in or just the ones you approve of?”

I absolutely approve of your right to vote for Obama. And I do NOT approve of him!


1,002 posted on 04/10/2012 10:49:08 PM PDT by navydad
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To: navydad

And now you strut around like you are winning.

Yup. Just like playing chess with a pigeon.


1,003 posted on 04/10/2012 10:49:31 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nik Naym

And now you strut around like you are winning.

That’s hilarious! There’s not a strut-bone in my body, my friend. If Obama gets re-elected nobody wins.


1,004 posted on 04/10/2012 10:53:43 PM PDT by navydad
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To: navydad

Who wins if Romney wins? Romney?


1,005 posted on 04/10/2012 10:55:16 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: DNA.2012

“And conservatives are told that they have to be in the role of the person accepting the rancid garbage instead getting what they deserve.”

Feel exactly the same way, DNA.2012!


1,006 posted on 04/10/2012 10:55:24 PM PDT by Inclines to the Right
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To: navydad

Well, good night navydad.

I hope you get over your fear of the big bad Obamaman.

Other than being afraid of that puss bag you seem like an OK guy.


1,007 posted on 04/10/2012 10:57:24 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The last two nominating contests have led me to believe that Iowa should be stripped of its initial status.

The Iowa voters have now, twice, seriously injured the leading conservative candidates (respectively, Fred Thompson in 2008 and Newt Gingrich in 2012) because they apparently prefer big-government, fiscally liberal Republicans who are the most intensely passionate on social issues.

The result is getting into intra-conservative battles between the most passionate single-sphere social conservatives against the Constitutional Conservatives who are conservative on all spheres and think they are all important. Then because I as a Constitutional Conservative want Fred over tax-hiking Huckabee or Newt over union-kissing Santorum, I get flak from Single Sphere SoCons because I’m supposed to rally around what would best be described as a partial-conservative “with Iowa momentum” when there’s a perfectly good Constitutional conservative to support!? And then *I* get blamed for “splitting the vote” because their weak big-government guy goes down in flames against the RINO and I wouldn’t budge from Newt!?

I want the CONSERVATIVE guy, not the most RELIGIOUS guy. If they’re the same, great! If not, pick the damn CONSERVATIVE!

A deep red Southern state deserves to go first. Then we can choose someone ALL conservatives can support.

No more Iowa first. Rally for it, shake the RNC to its foundation until it loses its status. They’re giving the GOP-E a pathway to fracture us to our core so they can sleaze and buy their way to a hollow victory. No more.


1,008 posted on 04/10/2012 10:57:28 PM PDT by order66.exe
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To: trappedincanuckistan

“Who wins if Romney wins?”

I don’t care who wins... as long as his name is not Obama! You got a candidate who will beat Obama? Vote for him!


1,009 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:41 PM PDT by navydad
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To: navydad

I would... but some fear mongering guy on FR told me that doing so would elect Obama. If you could impart him with the great wisdom of your most recent statement, I’d appreciate it.


1,010 posted on 04/10/2012 11:19:40 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: order66.exe

Mike Huckabee was leading going into the Iowa Caucus in 2008. Fred Thompson was never really a viable candidate, though he placed third with about 2/10ths of 1% above McCain if I recall. I agree with you though that Iowa rarely seems to be a bellwether of the actual candidate.


1,011 posted on 04/10/2012 11:21:11 PM PDT by Nobama_ever (Newt/Santorum or Santorum/Newt...NO Rombama and NO 0bama!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I completely understand your position, but I will vote for the lesser of the two evils this election. It is very unlikely to be Newt, so that will be McRomney.

Obama in another term is worse than Romney. If Romney gets in, we can try to have Newt oppose him in 2016.

We didn't get here in one election and we won't get back to where we need to be in one election. Rush calls it, “incrementalism.” It will take decades of strong, methodical push back at all levels of government, every step pushing more conservative. Sadly, Romney looks to be that start.

I agree with your heart on this, though.

1,012 posted on 04/10/2012 11:29:12 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm, my friend... if trying to keep Obama from getting a second term is “fear mongering” then I guess I’m guilty as charged. Take me out back and shoot me.


1,013 posted on 04/10/2012 11:34:19 PM PDT by navydad
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To: ConservativeMind

Well said! My sentiments exactly!


1,014 posted on 04/10/2012 11:35:50 PM PDT by navydad
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To: SoConPubbie
So the US military and our National Security will be better off in Obama's hands than Romney's?

Do I have that right?

That the lives of our Soldiers will be safer in the hands of a Kenyan communist than an American?

1,015 posted on 04/10/2012 11:47:43 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ronald Reagan must be rolling over in his grave. When will the gop learn?

1,016 posted on 04/10/2012 11:56:11 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: navydad

For the record...

“No matter what follows in that sentence - that is absolute suicide and insanity! Obama will destroy this country so fast with EPA, Health & Human Services, Homeland Security, and other unaccountable czar edicts, unfunded mandates, Presidential signing orders, and new supreme court members, that Congress will be thoroughly castrated and won’t know what hit them!”

Suicide, insanity, castration...sure sounds like fearmongering to me.

No one denies he’s the worst president in history. And yes, there’s some truth to your assertions. A lot in fact. But if he were to actually go bug nuts dictator and no one in our government or military stop him, then where exactly is the America you speak of? It will at that point exist as a memory alone.

Now Romney, who states his belief in ‘mandates’, gun control, abortion, gay everything etc...I ask yet AGAIN, id different how?

Before he was elected to the big chair, Obama had nowhere near the list of actual anti-conservative and yes, anti-AMERICAN ‘accomplishments’ than Romney had as Gov. And you think he’s going to be less liberal as president? His anti drilling global warming BS? His anti christian gay/abortion BS? His total lack of foreign policy? How is any of that, and the logical result of such actions any less damaging to America? Don’t keep ducking the questions, answer them if you can.

He hates what we believe ‘is’ America, and his record, through his actions, prove it. If you vote for him, you get what you deserve. Your choice.


1,017 posted on 04/11/2012 12:06:57 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Antoninus
Romney's record in Massachusetts was with a Democratic legislature. Even with Romney’s substantial defects, he is preferable to Obama.
1,018 posted on 04/11/2012 1:10:05 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Jim Robinson
I voted for the GOPe's lame candidates for over three decades, but Mitt Romney is a bridge too far for me. I want a divorce...from the GOP. The moderate/centrists and "most electable" conservative sellouts nominated Mitt. Let them drag him over the finish line.

Again, I want to make clear that I was a reliable GOP vote all these years. I think I'm what most people would call a very reliable GOP vote, but no more!

Believe me. I agonize over this decision. I won't demonize those who vote (again) for the lesser of two evils and hope they won't demonize me. It's not an easy decision, but I cannot vote for someone like Romney, not even against Obama. That is a Morton's fork dilemma.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morton%27s_fork

I think Romney is only slightly better than Obama, and given Romney's past, he might create a Democrat / moderate Republican coalition against conservatives. They will be able to pass the very things we fear from an Obama administration, an administration that is largely tied up now because an opposing party holds the house.

Romney's nomination means we are effectively disenfranchised, and his promises mean jack squat to me. If he's actually elected, we have no sway over him at all. I will vote down ticket, but no Mitt or Obama for me!

1,019 posted on 04/11/2012 1:12:32 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: centurion316

centurion316: “I never thought that Free Republic would help to destroy the country.”

The country is already very thin ice if Mitt Romney is the best the GOPe can offer to oppose President Obama. The GOP is complicit in everything that’s going wrong. Don’t think I’ve forgotten compassionate conservative Bush. We are where we are because of the GOPe and Democrats. I’m not going to beg and scrape for scraps from the GOPe’s table. A pox on both parties!


1,020 posted on 04/11/2012 1:19:31 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
Who wins if Romney wins? Romney?

Try again.

How about the Defense Department, our National Security, Israel, Poland and a litany of other people, organizations and Allies that need a strong America.

1,021 posted on 04/11/2012 3:30:41 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: SoConPubbie
All of your points are well taken and I'm aware of them all. But, again, I'm going to vote for whomever the GOP nominee is.

Many forget, that in '08 Mittens was the cat's meow as far as conservatives were concerned and very well might have been the nominee had Charlie Crist not endorsed McNuts on the eve of the Florida primary. I held my nose and voted for McNuts, in the general...only because of Palin.

1,022 posted on 04/11/2012 3:46:34 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Bigh4u2
I read the link below. Unfortunately, it argues that Romney actually will appoint conservative judges despite his Massachusetts track record. I'm guessing the point can be made with a better link?

287 posted on Tue Apr 10 2012 15:35:17 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Bigh4u2: “If you think Romney will pick a ‘conservative’ for SCOTUS, you’ve got another ‘think’ coming.

http://gopprimary2012.com/a-look-at-romneys-judicial-philosophy-conservative-reform-in-the-most-liberal-state/

“Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans, has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters (75%) of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced, instead tapping registered Democrats or independents – including two gay lawyers who have supported expanded same-sex rights.””

1,023 posted on 04/11/2012 3:56:23 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

Their ‘conclusion’ is based on what Romney says he will do.

Saying and doing are two different things.

Sorry, but I don’t take ‘etch-a-sketch’ at his word because he talks out of both sides of his mouth.


1,024 posted on 04/11/2012 4:01:07 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Prole

I don’t see any difference.
Obama = Kenyan
Romney = Mexican

Romney = Pro Abortion
Obama = Pro Abortion

Romney = Liberal
Obama = Liberal

Obama never served in the military.
Romney never served in the military.

Obama if not muslim, clearly sympathizes with them
Romney is mormon. They both are not true christians.

So, from where I am sitting - there is no difference between the two.

As a christian, I cannot compromise with the devil. Getting republicans elected, great. But I am a christian first, republican second.

As a christian, I cannot bear false witness. I cannot donate to a campaign I don’t believe in, I cannot make calls on behalf of a candidate I know is evil.

As a christian, I know that everything follows God’s plan. My adhering to his teachings will not endanger this country any more than going to church on wednesday and sunday endangers this country.

So I know, I am called, I am compelled by my faith to NOT vote for evil, for Romney. I know that my doing so will be in accordance to God’s plan, and God’s teachings. I don’t know what a conservative, christian boycott of Romney will bring, but it will be as it should be. And maybe, next time around - and there will be a next time, God Willing - we won’t be taken for granted by those who need us.


1,025 posted on 04/11/2012 4:05:49 AM PDT by rudman
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To: Jim Robinson

Works for me!


1,026 posted on 04/11/2012 4:16:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Errant
It's time to draw the line on abortion, homosexual agenda, entitlements, discrimination, big government and the trampling of our Constitution and civil rights!




Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

1,027 posted on 04/11/2012 4:24:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Errant

1,028 posted on 04/11/2012 4:25:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: true believer forever
rring a miracle? No No No. Expect a Miracle, and they won't get their RINO... there is still time.

My dad died after dinner one evening from a massive aorta aneurysm.

1,029 posted on 04/11/2012 4:27:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: centurion316; Jim Robinson
I never thought that Free Republic would help to destroy the country.

I'm GLAD that FR (Jim) values men's souls!!

1,030 posted on 04/11/2012 4:29:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie; Jim Robinson

Me too!

Coffee shack ping.


1,031 posted on 04/11/2012 4:30:55 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Rockingham
Romney's record in Massachusetts was with a Democratic legislature. Even with Romney’s substantial defects, he is preferable to Obama.

You people keep saying that, but it's not true. Romney is a leftist and if (God forbid) he gets elected president, he will be calling a leftist tune and there will be no meaningful opposition from Republicans. At least with Obama, the Republicans are forced to oppose out of political necessity. With Romney, no such pressure exists.

People who vote out of fear will be the death of this country.
1,032 posted on 04/11/2012 4:56:29 AM PDT by Antoninus (The Republican Party (now a wholly owned subsidiary of Romney, Inc.))
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To: cableguymn

RATE of deterioration is a consideration here.

After 4 years of Romney there will still be an America to save.

Obama’s goal is the destruction of America and there will be nothing left to save in 4 years.

Those are your ONLY choices!


1,033 posted on 04/11/2012 5:14:35 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: SoConPubbie; onyx; Jim Robinson




Please feel free to use this anywhere and everywhere.
1,034 posted on 04/11/2012 5:19:40 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: katiedidit1

Where in the Constitution does it say we get to choose a candidate for our political party?

This is why moderates think conservatives are stupid. You put all that time into some great graphics but have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

READ THE CONSTITUTION !

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to be angry that Romney is our nominee but our rights under the Constitution are not among them.


1,035 posted on 04/11/2012 5:23:18 AM PDT by Tulkas
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To: 5thGenTexan
Well aren't you just sooo very special. Your assertion is irrelevant as the end result is the same. Yours is a distinction without a difference . . . either you are working to stop the reelection of the most destructive and dangerous fascist in American history, or you are helping him win.

No third party candidacy will help conservatives. No refusal to vote for Romney will benefit any conservative cause--but it will ensure Obama's reelection.

Standing on principle would be small comfort to me if the entire nation is brought down because of it.

America faces a simple choice in the upcoming elections . . . either Obama wins and America finishes its rapid trip down the toilet of Marxism/socialism with all of the loss of liberties and freedoms Americans have come to expect, or Obama loses and America is given another chance to get it right--next time around.

To fail, for Obama to get reelected is for America to die--not really cool with that . . . I guess you holier-than-thou types are.
1,036 posted on 04/11/2012 5:23:56 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: entropy12; Jagdgewehr; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy; ...
RE :”Yours is the most logical post in this thread. Will Mittens keep talking conservative or will he make a 90 degree turn towards severely moderate to appease the centrists. If he starts talking liberal talk now that Rick has left the race, I will abstain in 2012, in spite of knowing Obama in 2nd term will be far more destructive of the country. I detest people who are undependable more than people who have a core belief even if it is not same as mine.

Thanks..
I don't tell others who to vote for when the choices are this bad. Obama is doing his best to get Republicans to give up their vow to never vote for Romney.

Romney is a liberal, it will show itself sooner or later. Let's just watch and see what he does when his number 1 opponent is Obama.

So far I don't see Romney responding effectively to Obama’s ‘Buffet Rule’ skit that he ( Obama) has been playing for a while now. Does he even have an effective response to it? , besides : 'rich guy's like me need that money' ? which is not very inspiring. Or is he just hoping the economy tanks and he gets lucky?

1,037 posted on 04/11/2012 5:25:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: Antoninus

The Tea Party and GOP grass roots will keep the heat on Romney and a Republican Congress. In addition, the federal operational and generational deficits are so immense that the bond and currency markets will force spending cuts and reforms at the federal level, and GOP business interests will insist on regulatory reforms.


1,038 posted on 04/11/2012 5:25:39 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: navydad; Norm Lenhart
You speak out of fear and not from knowledge. You are so frightened that you can't even see facts.

You can listen to the party elites and react from fear. The rest of us intend to fight back. Romney, Obama, same choice.

Have a good day.

1,039 posted on 04/11/2012 5:50:41 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: so_real
Romney doesn't "hate" America ... Neither does Obama

I guess I actually should have used your term. I like it better. You say Obama doesn't hate America. Exactly how differently would he be governing if he did then? I would say that Obama DOES hate America, at least the America formed by our Founding Fathers. Does someone with a strong belief in our founding tell one of our lifelong adversaries "After the election, I will have more flexibility"? He talks down to the Supreme Court about unelected officials, yet he has tens of unelected Czars producing and enforcing legislation that never saw the halls of Congress. He, along with Pelosi and Reid, has taken this nation further down the road of Fascism than I ever dreamed I would see.

You really believe that Romney would govern like this? Romney is not even close to my best pick, but I have a strong feeling that he would govern this country to the right of McCain. That's not saying much, but its a hell of a lot better than watching the final destruction of EVERYTHING we used to be as a nation.

Obama's second term will see the dismantling of our military, he has already halted our space programs, and he allies himself with our lifelong adversaries and distances himself from our true allies (Israel). Hell, he has even pissed off Canada and Great Britain. He shows NO signs of desiring an energy independent USA as he has wasted billions on "solar" shell companies while shutting down all public land drilling. He has strengthened and has given marching orders to union thugs to shut us down and worse case, he may get another one to two more Justices in a second term. He has spent and spent and spent and shows no signs of slowing that down.

And what about race relations? Do you think that they will improve or worsen in the next term? I'm sorry. Romney may suck, but to draw a moral equivalent between the two shows a lack of understanding or an unwillingness to believe in the depths that Obama will aim for in his second term to finally "Fundamentally Transform" America.
1,040 posted on 04/11/2012 5:52:36 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
They’ve gone a RINO too far.

Such a way with words!


1,041 posted on 04/11/2012 5:52:51 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: centurion316

I can’t in my right mind not vote or vote for Obama.
I just can’t do it


1,042 posted on 04/11/2012 5:54:06 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: mel

Then you’re a good man - Edmund Burke would rightfully be proud of you.


1,043 posted on 04/11/2012 5:56:57 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Norm Lenhart
Now Romney, who states his belief in ‘mandates’, gun control, abortion, gay everything etc...I ask yet AGAIN, id different how?

And how does Romney enforce ANY of this with a Congress that will not legislate this way?
1,044 posted on 04/11/2012 5:59:49 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I am with you, Jim. I am not supporting a fraud as Romney.
I have voted for their candidates for years. I am done helping those people who could care less about me and my views. If Romney were to win, he will turn left as fast as he can. He's in trouble with women voters due to his flip flop promises on right to life/and choice. Once he gets the nod, he will make promises that will have many of us furious. If we don't get a miracle-we need to win the House and Senate.
1,045 posted on 04/11/2012 6:10:53 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: navydad

They are offering me Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi..

I want orange juice.

To say that Obama or Milt are my only options is false.


1,046 posted on 04/11/2012 6:24:47 AM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: G Larry
After 4 years of Romney there will still be an America to save.

After an infinity of Heaven; how many souls COULD have been saved if MORMONism had not had a bully pulpit?

1,047 posted on 04/11/2012 6:38:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Jagdgewehr

Where were those loyal conservative principles when they voted for McCain?


1,048 posted on 04/11/2012 6:39:14 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: cableguymn
To say that Obama or Milt are my only options is false.

Hush!

You'll wake up the sheep!

1,049 posted on 04/11/2012 6:40:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: All

Right now, the President of the United States of America is engaged in a war agains Christians, whites and the very freedoms that I pray my children will enjoy someday.....I will vote for the lesser of two evils and pray that the damage done to this country by this imposter can be undone...
With respect, I don’t see how any thinking person would imagine a worse President than Obama ESPECIALLY considering that he would get at least one, perhaps two Supreme Court nominees.
Yes, I know Romney isn’t a Conservative and his record on choosing judges is shaky to say the least, but do you REALLY think Romney’s choices would be worse than Obama’s?


1,050 posted on 04/11/2012 6:45:53 AM PDT by Maverick68
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