Skip to comments.This Level Headed FReeper is *NOT* voting for Romney (VANITY)
Posted on 04/10/2012 6:20:28 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
With all of the chicanery that the GOP-E has done over the last year, and helped the media to do over the last year, there's NO WAY I'm surrendering to these creeps.
Romney is *NOT* our candidate! He's their candidate, we're NOT REPUBLICANS! We are conservatives and constitutionalists FIRST. We believe in small government! Not this big government crap that Romney has peddled for the better half of the last decade or two, and I certainly can't do any more nose holding at the ballot box.
Voting for a big government republican is the real world equivalent of cutting off my nose to spite my face. That I refuse to do.
Reforming the GOP into a small government conservative party doesn't just mean voting for the right tea partiers at the right time. It means refusing to vote for the wrong big government republicans at the wrong time. We need to starve the beast of votes. We need to teach the republican party that if they have any shot at electoral success in the future, they only have one viable path. Bold colors BOLD COLORS BOLD COLORS
I think it is at least worth studying the implications of supporting an independent run by Ron Paul now. Although my first choice would be Gingrich, his chances of being nominated seem remote, and it would do no real good to have him as the vice-presidential nominee if Romney is not forced to commit to much smaller government. Not that I was ever that sold on Gingrich being on an express route to smaller government either, but until today I have been hesitant to support Ron Paul due to the uncertainties about his foreign policy stands. However, there’s nothing to defend if the country goes bankrupt, and I see a lot of logic in his position that the rest of the world should pick up the slack. All things considered, I think it might now make sense for all “real” conservatives to get behind Ron Paul and give him some momentum towards a viable third party candidacy. Maybe somehow this would even force the GOP convention to back him, but I realize these are long odds. But Mitt Romney? When you combine the moderate-liberal tendencies with the Mormon uncertainties, the net result is hardly better than Obama. At the very least, Romney would need to sign documents committing to certain objectives and making absolute guarantees about freedom of religion because the last thing America needs is some crazy period of Mormon-evangelical-Catholic religious bickering. But with the unknowns that surround Romney this seems almost guaranteed especially if he managed to beat Obama, which frankly, I don’t think he can do (unless Obama does something even stranger than what he’s already done, and we all know he’s waiting for 2013 to start that stuff).
Sorry to ramble, but give Ron a chance is my motto.
Zero has the capacity for great evil. His childhood was characterized by rejection and ostracism. He soon gravitated to radical ideologies nurtured by his mother and Frank Davis. He is a profoundly wounded man and he seeks vengeance on the world. Communists radical leaders realized that this twisted man could be used for their own ends, and they passed him up the ladder of success through their Leftist institutions.
Is this not the resume of an evil man, a despot, tyrant or even a genocidal maniac? Does anyone want to find out, just for kicks, or to prove a point? I think no, we cannot take this chance and find out that we have given rise to the American Hitler.
I never said I was depressed.
you might want to pick up the pace.
You and others like you may not be supporting Obama, but, you stand a good chance of getting Obama again by not voting “against Obama”.
Voting for Romney is not the best one could hope for, but, not voting for Romney or voting for the other guy, are the worst of decisions that one could make.
Aw, c'mon. Baal is a cream-puff; especially after he took over the body of Adria.
It makes we want to puke! I don't like Romney he is NOT “my guy” but &^%$#@ IT IS WHAT IT IS! IF iT’S GOING TO BE ROMNEY OR OBOZO I WANT OBOZO KICKED OUR OF OUR WHITEHOUSE. Don't reply to this I am going to puke now!
I never said I was depressed.
Maybe I'm reading a different post then. It seems like you, and many others, are all distraught because we didn't win the fight with the establishment at the national level - yet all but ignore the great success we have had at the local and state level (where it all really starts).
Look, you don't win every battle. Jim Robinson is right, revolution is here - and it is largely taking place behind the scenes at the local and state level which is largely out of view of the public and isn't sexy enough to get much MSM coverage. But we ARE making great strides and change will come from the bottom up - not from the top down.
As I posted on a similar thread, I don’t see myself as voting FOR Romney this election. I see it as a vote AGAINST Obama, and I am ok with that.
You can click my name, and see my posts. I’ve been around here for a long time.
I have supported every candidate in this primary process, except two. Never Romney, and Never Huntsman.
Never. All conservatives are “my guy”, but Huntsman and Romney were not conservatives.
Bully for you, HMHA, who ARE you voting for? Hmmm?
Ron Paul's foreign and defense policies are wacky, and arguably more dangerous than even Hussein's.
I know paulbots think they see an opening here, but there isn't one. Paul's mostly good economic policies are appealing to some Republicans, but he trivializes himself when he blathers on about how Bradley Manning is a "hero and a patriot" or that it doesn't matter if Iran gets a nuke. Conservatives are never going to vote for a Paul 3rd party. But hey, I encourage him to do it. Paul should get out of the GOP and run indie. I think he will pull more votes from Obama's drug addled college hipster demographic than he would from anyone on the right.
You totally don’t get it. The completely compromised GOP establishment is not going to let you take the reins of power away from them. It’s a pipe dream. This has been apparent to many of us for years now. Therefore, some of us have pretty much predicted everything that has happened in this election cycle. Not hard to do. It’s all very predictable, if you’ve been around politics very long at all, if you have any principles, and if you have an ounce of discernment.
There will be NO enthusiasm for that Massachusetts liberal. There will be no 2010-like conservative grassroots work and money to get that slimy liberal elected.
The GOP can rot with their Obama-lite candidate. I will never again vote for ANYONE who is not conservative. PERIOD!
“So youre supporting Obama?”
If you vote for Mittens you might as well be.
“So youre supporting Obama?”
So your screen name isn’t a self description?
“Youre claiming that Mark Levin isnt conservative enough??”
Mark is an establishment Republican. He would vote for Obama if that is what the RNC ran. Mark is a Convenient Conservative; conservative as long as it doesn’t run afoul of his being a Republican first.
I prefer not to place my party over my country.
Oh, great. Then we can support Obama instead and get a 5th and 6th Communist appointed to the Supreme Court, at which point the entire Constitution is deader than a doornail, and all personal liberty is a thing of the past forever.
Can anyone say National Progressive Fascism? Because that’s exactly what’s going to happen under a second Obama administration. Actually, that’s what’s happening now, but it will become permanent if given four more years to settle in for good.
Can anyone say “syphilitic camel”? Well, I can, and I’ll vote for one before I’d vote for Obama if a syphilitic camel is the GOP nominee. I figure if I’m willing to vote for a diseased dromedary, I could vote for Romney.
Added to my Romney Republican bumper sticker list. But I think you'll have to shave it down a bit to make it fit...
Obama is the candidate of both parties. I won’t vote for a major party candidate unless it turns out the Republicans manage to nominate somehow someone other than Obamney. We desperately need to beat Obama(Dem version) but electing Obamaclone is NOT beating Obama. It is setting the kenyan’s gains in stone and enhancing them. It is welding the shackles that the kenyan has wrought.
Newt would be my first choice. Nonetheless I believe either Newt or Romney could win this thing and either would be a gigantic improvement over Obunga. Near as I can tell, Obunga’s basic plan is to take this country down, and I just don’t see anything like that anywhere in the GOP.
“Then we can support Obama instead and get a 5th and 6th Communist appointed to the Supreme Court,”
As opposed to Romney’s judicial picks??
Your dissection is keen and accurate. Everything is circumspect...except for your first and misleading and accusatory judgement: “No, you’re just deluded.”
What if the poster is spot on and you are choosing to miss the point of the fantastical story? What if the point is worthy of being made and the poster is not deluded?
What does that do to your neat dissection that followed?
Say what? In November the president will not have changed. between faux Obama and real Obama the Left will vote for the real one. A large part of the Right will watch ESPN.
Vote for Romney and you are supporting the kenyan about as much as voting for the kenyan himself.At the least to vote for Romney is to put one’s satisfied signature to totalitarian socialism by betraying the opposition to socialism. If Republicans and Democrats all vote for socialism what is left? A vote for Romney is official approval of kenyan socialism.
If you live in a deep-blue state, e.g., CA, NY, then you can vote for who ever you please as it won’t make a difference. But, you can still donate effectively as that method of support knows no bounds. On the other hand, if you live in a GW Bush 2004 state that went into the 0bama column in 2008, then you have the duty. 0bama must be defeated; take one for the team.
Palin may say it, but no way does she believe it.
A vote for Obama is a vote for leftwing government.
A vote for Romney is a vote for leftwing government.
They both hate conservatives, and both of their political parties actively work together to defeat the likes of Sarah Palin.
She knows this, and she also knows (along with her husband) that the GOP is dead.
“My FRiend. Do you not realize that Mister Obama, in a second (and “flexible”) term will...
- separate you from your firearms,
- separate you from your property and wealth,”
Let me ‘splain something to you:
They are NOT going to get our guns because we WON’T give them to them.
The day they start trying to take them is the day the war starts.
I am deadly serious about this. Just WHY do you think firearm sales have skyrocketed for the past three years? Do you really think people are stocking up so they can meekly hand them over to the Obama regime? Think about that for a little while.
And as far as getting our property: See above.
Obviously, he ain't Brilliant, is 'e? Axe any database admin, there can be only one 'Brilliant'! Pity.
As I have said many ways many times, both Romney and Obama are unconscionably vile men, and I will vote for neither. My analogy to demons was an attempt to simplify it so that even a credulous party serf could understand.
A pox on both of the abortionist, statist vermin and all who have assisted their ascent to power.
Romney has been a liberal like his Alinkyite daddy (his idol and mentor) all his political career until he started running for President. then he started trying to sound conservative, but not doing it very well. He’ll flop back now that he thinks he has it sewn up. Etch-a-Sketch.
I am with you, GOP-E be damned, I will NEVER vote for Romney I am
sick to death of the establishment buying our elections!!!! Romney will
NEVER win!!!!! RINOS NEVER WIN,!!!!
You Vanity Post was your opinion and my response to it was mine.
Even thought my reply was to you, it was meant to convey my general viewpoint on the issue of supporting the Republican Candidate that will be chosen to go against Pharaoh Obama. If that ends up being Governor Romney, I go with the Mark Levin philosophy where an Orange Juice Can is preferable to the current Commie who occupies the Office of President.
You do what you feel is best as I will. I thank goodness that we have this Forum to share our ideas, but as I always say, sometimes it feels like preaching to the Choir while the Pews are empty. At the very least, it gives us a way to vent after we realize that many of our fellow Citizens have no clue what is happening around them. I wish you the best.
Not to forget, with another Obama term, a likely SCOTUS opportunity, more czars, more executive orders...
It’s sea change coming to America with another Obama term.
Should be âeven THOUGH my reply to you”.
I hate Spell Check... #;^)
“...will only get you ignored by the party. It won’t help reform the GOP because they will simply write you off. “
I think what you fail to see is that they ALREADY wrote us off.
Anyone here who refuses to vote for Romney because he just isn’t perfect in your little fantasy worlds is allowing Obama to get a second term.
You are not principled, you are stupid. In fact worse than that, you are essentially traitors to your country.
If you are whining about abortion and that is your ONLY issue and you will not vote for anyone who does not perfectly agree with your pet issue then you need to gtfo of this country and go somewhere were you can create your own little utopia.
Let me be absolutely clear: You are acting like a child. This is the same attitude that gave us a Democrat controlled Federal government in the first place. YOUR actions are the reason that we are hanging on the precipice with Obamacare at the Supreme Court. YOUR actions are why we are facing trillions and trillions of dollars in debt. YOUR actions are why gas is $4 a gallon. YOUR actions are why unemployment is on the exciting side of 8 percent.
What makes you think that is possible when RINOs and Democrats will be more than willing to help him pass "bipartisan" legislation while the liberal media gushes praise upon him?
“You are so terrified and cowed of him, that you think everybody else in American and in Washington is going to roll over right along with you?”
Who, in Washington or elsewhere, has given any indication of being able to stop him yet?
(Actually, the only ones that come to my mind are Sheriff Joe Arpaio (sp?) and perhaps (we shall see) Justices Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Alito, and Kennedy.)
That’s alright. I didn’t slam your opinion.
You assigned to me something, which was false.
I’m not a “my guy or the highway” person. I’d gladly vote for any conservative.
The fact of the matter is that the GOP-E rolled us up and smoked us, just like we rolled them up and smoked them in 2010.
They handed us our arses. And now we’re stuck with Romney because of it.
Get off your knees.
“gtfo of this country”
Hark! The sound of a Gauleiter!
I love it! Where’s the bumper sticker?
I guess I am just resigned to play the hand I'm dealt rather than fold after the flop without seeing the turn and the river.
Didn't mean to misrepresent your position. My apologies.
In the end, we are all FRiends here. To be frank, I think more of the opinions my fellow FReepers present than those of some of my extended Family who simply don't get it.
I’m with OP.
I’ve endured Bush I, Dole, Bush II, McCain, and NOW they want me to accept Romney?
To hell with the East Coast rigged GOP primary.
To hell with FOXNEWS.
To hell with Bill Oreilly.
To hell with Newt Gingerich.
If I don’t have a real say in the primary screw the general election.
I say make the GOP get off their asses and DEAL with Obama.
They could have taken him out but are too compromised so they are waiting for another election!!!... meanwhile...
I’ll not vote for another lib republican.