Skip to comments.It Was Inevitable. Now Bring on President Both Ways
Posted on 04/11/2012 7:27:07 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
"It was inevitable.
Mitt Romneys campaign has used a money advantage to shut out the competition. As I said when he won Ohio, Romney will be the nominee".
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Not only should that be sobering to anyone who really supports him, but its a clear indicator of his character.
Best case for Romney is that enough conservatives hold their nose tight enough to make it to the polls next November to drag him over the top. That were relegated to such tells us all we need to know about the state of the party, the conservative movement, and the country itself.
And dont anyone try to publish the lie that the conservative movement is alive and well. Its sick and dying and bordering on irrelevancy, just 2 years after one of its finest moments. Its largely been co-opted by moderates and psuedo-conservatives who dont really have a clue what conservatism is, or in some cases (see congress), by those who have a great desire to see it vanish".
He’s won his delegates in Obama strongholds while ignoring or insulting the people in red counties. Obama is going to beat him like an unfaithful muslim goat.
Arguably the single worst candidate the GOP has ever had.
Just curious. Are you saying Romney used his personal wealth to buy the elections? Or are you saying that Romney was able to convince more donors that he was the best candidate than his competitors were?
A conservative, a moderate, and a liberal walk into a bar. The bartender say, "Hi, Mitt!"
Made me laugh - thanks for the mental image!
Arguably the single worst candidate the GOP has ever had.
By some measures, I can agree with this but there are other measures that point to other candidates. My personal evaluation is that Bob Dole should win that title by a whisker over Jerry Ford.
Can you split the faces and connect a real right half of one to the left half of the other?
Maybe I should invest in photo shop after all.
I can’t remember who said it (it was either Ed Rollins or Mike Huckabee) but weeks ago, when Newt was barely alive, I heard this person say Newt should stay in it because Mitt Romney could easily make a gigantic gaffe or otherwise blow it. Look, the Massachusetts Moderate is not known for his eloquence or intelligence. He’s known for his ambition and money. So why shouldn’t Newt keep going until Romney gets the necessary delegates?
The GOP has committed suicide. It happened long ago but now the body stinks. I’m sure I’ll get flamed, but it’s long past time for a second party.
We conservatives face two problems today.
1. We vastly overestimate our numbers.
2. We’ve become whiny little bitches.
I’ll go along with that. I personally favored Santorum but I’ll take Newt any day over Rommney. If Rommney has a center, it’s Rommeny. His pandering is sickening.
What I don’t like about this primary is that many states, ours in CA didn’t even get a chance to state whom we would like to see on the ticket..it was left up to all the others....oh sure we can make a protest vote during the June primary here..but what good is it/NOne.
Now we have to all pull behind Obamalite just to get that jackass out of the WH. Lucky all of us..
We have to hope to god this Romeny beats 0bama and then hope to god we have a house and senate that will hold his feet to the conservative fires.
One good deal after another!/S
If the un-thinkable (to the GOP-E) should happen and Romney does blow up and doesn’t get the nomination and it should go to Newt or some other Conservative, would the Gop-e and the rinos and moderates do what they expect the conservatives to do and come on board with support, money, votes and hard work?
Yep, just like Santorum was saying, once the playing field is level or even tilted against Romney, what are his chances? Romney said the economy is improving. He can’t raise Obamacare despite it’s unpopularity. Romney is even farther out of the mainstream regarding his religion. Throw in his gaffes that highlight his wealth, and he’s the perfect target. Obama may have no talent, but he is lucky.
If the money is a problem you don’t need PS.
When Palin declined to run, after going right to the edge, I knew the game was fixed. Obviously the moneybags were closed, the state parties were on Romneys side. Even when Santorum won in Iowa, the news did get out until it had no impact. Witness the raw power of the Establishment. In 2000, when McCain was the more conservative candidate, he was shut out; in 2008, when Romney was the more conservative candidate, he was shut out. After 2010 when the voters moved to the right, the Establishment stayed with him, and during the horse race, everytime a challenger moved up, he/she was blocked out.
Now I’m really confused.
In 0bama vs Romney,
which one is the turd sandwich and which is the giant douche?
No arguments on the bad aspects of Romney, but he’s also winning the swing states....FL, MI, OK, WI, NV, etc. I still think he’s an incredibly flawed candidate and not a conservative, but we need to ignore the facts of this primary season.
Obama’s deliberate destruction of the country for the past 3 years doesn’t give you a hint?
Yep, there IS a difference between someone who is intentionally burning the house down,
and someone who just doesn’t fix stuff that’s broken.
I think I’ve figured it out.
Romney is a giant douche,
and 0bama is a giant-douche-turd sandwich.
In 08 he won Michigan by 10% over McCain. This year he tied and the delegate allocation rules were changed after the vote to give him the 2 extra delegates. He just barely squeaked out a win in Ohio, he lost in Minnesota, he lost in Iowa.
He’s not a strong candidate. He’s the weakest candidate the GOP has ever put up and he WILL lose to Obama.
This cannot be repteated enough:
If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures. - Alexander Hamilton
BTW, Romney will lose if he is the candidate. Just like McCain did. Not enough people will be able to choke down the puke to be able to vote for Romney. If a real conservative is the candidate, s/he will win, if the Dems’ massive voting fraud is curbed a bit.
I concur with your analysis ;-)
3. We do not know that we are the RINOs! Those people we call RINOs (like Mitt) are not RINOs - they are Republicans. It is us Conservatives that are Republicans in Name Only. Reason being that the GOP has shifted so far to the left that a 1960s Democrat would consider the present GOP far too liberal.
“As I said when he won Ohio, Romney will be the nominee”.
He may be the nominee, but he won’t even come close to obama’s numbers.
IMHO, I think the primaries should be in order from highest percentage of GOP votes to lowest percentage based on the last presidential election. The primary schedule should them be reset every 4 years. That would force the GOP elites and the North Eastern republicans out of the primaries and leave us with true conservatives at this stage.
Why in the hell are we letting IOWA, New Hampshire, Nevada, Minnesota, Maine, Washington, Michigan, Massachusetts, Hawaii and Vermont voting in the first half. I could even question Colorado, Florida, Michigan none of which voted GOP in 2008 being in the first half.
It seems to me some of the most reliable conservative states are at the middle and end of the Primary season. We also need to get the FEDGOV out of TX elections.
WTF is Guam, Puerto Rico, North. Mariana, . ... voting before real states.
We all know why it is all this way. The GOP doesn't want the gun clingers and bible lovers making the decisions out there in flyover space. WTF do we know. Its time for a conservative party!
Are you saying that Romney was the peoples choice wen he never broke 40% until the last race. The RNC chose Romney and he had a little help from FOX and all the taking heads. I never once saw anyone on FOX refer to Romney as anything other than Front Runner Romney, even though he was polling in the low thirty percentile.
Every conservative Spokesperson said repeatedly that they would support whomever the nominee was. That left exactly zero pressure on the D
gOPe minions to exact a change, Claiming. The people will warm up to Romney after he secures the nomination." This one will not.
Here is an interesting statistic. Ignoring of course all of the territories, since we don’t have “presidential results” from those territories since they don’t get to vote,
I went through the results based on the CNN delegate counts (I know there’s lots of delegate counts, but they had a nice chart easy to drop into a spreadsheet),
And then compared them to the percent vote McCain got in 2008, as somewhat good indicater of how “republican” a state was, realizing that Obama won the election pretty handily.
For states where McCain got more than 55% of the vote, Santorum leads Romney in delegates by a small amount (132 to 117)
Including states where McCain got more than 50% of the vote, Romney actually is leading in delegates, 176 to 146 for Santorum.
Including states where McCain got more than 45% of the vote, Romney is leading handily, 313 to 185.
Looking only at states where McCain lost, ROmney is doing better than in the states McCain won.
So yes, Romney is definitely doing better in blue states than red states, but he is also winning the red states.
I did note that you said “counties”, and this analysis doesn’t take into account which counties gave Romney his delegates.
I would disagree with your statement that Romney is insulting the red counties, except I think that would be considered defending Romney, and while there is still a sliver of hope for Newt Gingrich to win, I’m not going there.
It wouldn’t be so bad if we could expect Mittens to carpet-bomb Obama with the same kind of vicious negative ad campaign that he used against Newt in Florida. But, alas, we all know that will *never* happen.
The RINO 11th Commandment: Never speak ill of your Liberal opponent. Conservatives, on the other hand....
Sounds like climate science to me. Nice neat selected bits of info specifically chosen to make the kneepad wearers happy.
In the end, Romney is still nothing more than the “man” who will lose to Obama.
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