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Rockwall teacher fired for out-of-wedlock pregnancy
WFAA ^ | 04/10/2012 | JASON WHITELY

Posted on 04/11/2012 9:44:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: TSgt
Thankfully due to God’s gift of His Son Jesus and my recognition that I’m a sinner I would be in Heaven.

That is not enough. You must believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and trust in his finished work alone.

By grace are ye saved through faith and that no of yourselves: it is a gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:8,9)

New or old testament, saints are saved in the same way of faith:

For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that jusifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. (Romans 4:3-8)

You would have me condemned to death and stoned.

Many Christians mistakenly believe they are no longer subject to the law. Jesus did not destroy the law and the prophets. He came to fulfil them.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily, I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandements, and shall teach men so, he shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-19)

If you commit murder, and I were to sit on your jury and the evidence was beyond a reasonable doubt, I would have to judge you guilty. During the penalty phase of the trial, you may receive a sentence of death.

If you are a believer, then your soul, with its quickened spirit, will never die. (See John 5:24 and John 11:25) All of our sins are forgiven by him, but we may have to suffer the consequences of them in this life. The laws of the nation within which you live may not conform to God's law (sexual sin) but God finds them abhorent even now. If you do not like this, your problem is with God, not me.

And God's law is still in effect with the exception of those ordinances pertaining to "gifts and sacrifices" and "meats, and drinks, and divers washing, and carnal ordinances" imposed upon the children of Israel "until the time of the reformation" (see Hebrews 9)

I bet you believe Jesus turned water into grape juice?

I am quite familiar with the mocking spirit which prompts such a remark. If you are in fact a christian, you certainly are not behaving like one. I actually read the Bible and believe what it says. (I have tried to encourage to do the same). At the wedding of Cana in John chapter 2, Jesus made "wine" and very good wine at that, as attested by the governor of the feast.

161 posted on 04/13/2012 11:36:32 AM PDT by nonsporting
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I am well aware of the gospel FRiend and have led others to Christ.

If you are in fact a christian, you certainly are not behaving like one.

Quit the opposite, I have a forgiving spirit and do not condemn this women to death especially in light of my own sin.

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one - Romans 3:10

Again, I find it interesting that the same Christians that abhor abortion and birth control are the same Christians that drive single mothers out of the church instead of loving them and their children. Sean Hannity has commented on this very point.

I attended a private Christian school for a couple years. Late in the school year a senior got pregnant. They shunned her and wouldn't let her walk for graduation. Some Christian school that was...
162 posted on 04/13/2012 12:15:31 PM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: TSgt

This isn’t a religious argument, its a social one.

The only way to make clear to members of certain communities that certain actions are damaging to the members of that community is to attach some opprobium to them.

I know you are too informed to tell me that unwed motherhood doesn’t come with enormous societal, economical, and cultural costs. As such, you need to make a statement to others that unwed pregnancy isn’t just her problem. It’s everyone’s problem whether we want it to be or not.

Forgiving is the obvious thing to do, as everyone is a sinner. Accepting it is another. Quite another.

Nealy 60,000,000 dead babies. Adoption, being the responsible way to go, still a distant option in these cases. You have kids raising kids.

What’s your plan? I can show you programs here in WA state where all the preggers go to school in classes I’m paying for “that simply cannot be cut, or the economic burden on society would be even greater than it is.”

I’m glad she didn’t march. Her in WA state there is NO SOCIAL COST to kids for getting knocked up. There is also NO SOCIAL COST for the boys who walk away from the decision-making process about what happens with the babies.

How can that be good?


163 posted on 04/13/2012 12:26:19 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: TSgt
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one - Romans 3:10

Again, I find it interesting that the same Christians that abhor abortion and birth control are the same Christians that drive single mothers out of the church instead of loving them and their children. Sean Hannity has commented on this very point.

If you had read verse (3:10) in context, you would understand that Paul is establishing that all are under sin. Both the gentile, who knows right and wrong from God's creation (Romans 1), and the Jews, who keep the oracles of God (Romans 2). "All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God." (Romans 3:23). And that "a man us justified by faith apart from the works of the law." (Romans 3:28). Paul is NOT excusing sin. Nor is he arguing in favor of chucking the law:

Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. (Romans 3:31)

Establish the law!

You will probably not like Jesus' commands on church discipline for the unrepentent sinning brethren. (see Matthew 18:15-18).

And Hannity isn't going to like the following:

Notwithstanding I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. And I give her time to repent of her sexual immorality (fornication) and she did not repent. Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works. (Revelation 2:20-23)

Getting fired for blatant sexual immorality and not being able to attend HS graduation, while exposing shame, are a far cry from stoning which is God's punishment for adultery -- a law that has not been repealed.

And to correct Sean Hannity: the overwhelming majority of Crisis Pregnancy Centers (CPCs) in the U.S. are run by pro-life Christians emphasizing a conservative Christian philosophy.

164 posted on 04/13/2012 3:35:24 PM PDT by nonsporting
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