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Campus Police Detain and Draw Weapons on Student Activist for Wearing Empty Holster
Buckeye Firerams Association ^ | 9 April, 2012 | cbaus

Posted on 04/11/2012 9:53:16 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: marktwain

In effect, he was arrested for not having a gun.


21 posted on 04/11/2012 10:18:46 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: marktwain

Just think of what would have happened to him if he had held up a poster with a gun on it!


22 posted on 04/11/2012 10:19:41 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain
This is about the same speed as a little kid getting suspended at school for drawing a picture of a gun.

Our nation is just so screwed....

23 posted on 04/11/2012 10:21:54 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: Respond Code Three

Then my post does not apply to them. I support all officers of the law. I curse all soldiers of a totalitarian state.


24 posted on 04/11/2012 10:22:02 AM PDT by Binstence (Live Freep or Die)
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To: from occupied ga

I have defended the actions of officers on FR when the officers acted lawfully, and I have criticized the officers who acted outside of the law. I have known administrators and rank and file on both sides of the issue regarding open and concealed carry.


25 posted on 04/11/2012 10:22:55 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: morphing libertarian
"if you put a cell phone in a holster and pull it out in front of a cop, you deserve whatever happens next,"

Oh, I agree; it's way too much to expect the police to act like professionals, observe, think and understand a situation before they just react randomly. It's not like they're trained or anything.

26 posted on 04/11/2012 10:23:08 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: morphing libertarian

I deserve to make a phone call. Other than that the officer should be thrown off the force. He sure as hell is not protecting me . OH I forgot. The Supreme Court said the police don’t have a right to protect the public.


27 posted on 04/11/2012 10:24:02 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Binstence
"I support all officers of the law. I curse all soldiers of a totalitarian state."

On that, we are in agreement.

28 posted on 04/11/2012 10:24:08 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: morphing libertarian

I’m not sure you know what the word “deserve” means.


29 posted on 04/11/2012 10:24:16 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Manic_Episode

Our nation is so screwed up NOT because of strong neo-Marxists but because of weak and passive freedom fighters.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”— Attributed to Edmund Burke


30 posted on 04/11/2012 10:24:54 AM PDT by Binstence (Live Freep or Die)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“Wear a holster? Where is the gun? There lies the problem as a policeman sees it.”

PITY!

When I want an policeman’s idea on anything, I’ll give it to him. Allowing officers to get away with abuses such as this case only encourages future bad behavior. Sue the bachelor’s children!


31 posted on 04/11/2012 10:25:23 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Durus

In the context of my post deserve means totalitarian police deserve to be overthrown by any means necessary. Get it???? I didn’t think so.


32 posted on 04/11/2012 10:26:35 AM PDT by Binstence (Live Freep or Die)
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To: marktwain

The guy could have been thinking of going to Starbucks and using the holster as a cup holder.

WTH is wrong with these officers? They didn’t perceive any real danger but drew down on the guy anyway?

What if...wait for it...What if one of them accidentally discharged their firearm, striking one or more persons with severe injuries or killing them?

Actions have consequences.

Bozo’s...no wait... Ass Clowns!


33 posted on 04/11/2012 10:28:45 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: from occupied ga
"And how many is that exactly? "

More than one. That is why I wrote "officers," not "officer."

34 posted on 04/11/2012 10:29:54 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: marktwain
Apparently, they didn't arrest (molest) any other empty holster protesters, so how can they charge only one person with disorderly conduct? Tell you what...LEO’s better sit down with their families and have a long serious talk about what's more important...coming home every night or violating citizens rights. At some point, they can't have both.
35 posted on 04/11/2012 10:30:52 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Quit poking holes in the life raft!)
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To: Binstence

I did not respond to a post of yours so the context of your post is immaterial. Get it???? I hope so.


36 posted on 04/11/2012 10:30:59 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: from occupied ga
But the FR jackboot lickers are always saying that the police are "on our side" whatever that means. They're also always saying that it's only that police chiefs and bureaucrats who are anti-gun not the rank and file. I guess Newbern was falsely arrested by some of the police chiefs.

Confused here. Pepper Spray activists? Treyvon Martin? Rodney King? OJ Simpson? NY Prosecutors? Fast & Furious?.....

The generalizations get confusing. Like many issues case by case objective judgments on the behavior/character of citizens, police, politicians, prostitutes, priests, etc. is more congenial for debate and discussion.

For those that presume all LEO are misdirected government minions hellbent on infringing on our rights, discussion and debate is pointless. Same can be said for those that are "FR jackboot lickers" as you say.

The cops in this case, presumably working under the premise of an activist with a gun, should have detained, investigated, apologized and immediately released the student. Then they should have investigated whatever report they received that called for their action. If they truly went any further than that, then the citizen's rights were violated. If the university takes any action that defames or otherwise affects the student negatively, they should be subject to a civil lawsuit.

Is that your opinion too?

37 posted on 04/11/2012 10:32:06 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: marktwain

SUE, SUE, SUE!!!


38 posted on 04/11/2012 10:32:41 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: Timber Rattler

The leader in localized security standards is TSA, which gets apoplectic at the mere image of a gun or supporting accessories.


39 posted on 04/11/2012 10:32:51 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Respond Code Three
Respond Code Three,"None of the officers I worked with who were killed or wounded by gunfire in the line of duty..."

FOG ,"And how many is that exactly?"

Respond Code Three," I have defended the actions of officers on FR when the officers acted lawfully, and I have criticized the officers who acted outside of the law..."

So in other words, none.

40 posted on 04/11/2012 10:33:47 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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