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With Santorum Out, Evangelicals Edge Toward Romney, but Cautiously
NY Times ^ | April 11, 2012 | Erik Eckholm

Posted on 04/11/2012 1:09:52 PM PDT by C19fan

Rick Santorum had been the last best hope of Christian conservatives who opposed Mitt Romney, derided by many as a “Massachusetts moderate.” Now, facing the abrupt end of Mr. Santorum’s presidential bid, some evangelical leaders have begun to rally behind Mr. Romney, saying their shared hostility toward President Obama will be a powerful force for uniting the party in November.

In one sign of coalescing support from Christian conservatives, the National Organization for Marriage, a leading opponent of same-sex marriage, endorsed Mr. Romney on Wednesday morning. The group called Mr. Romney a “true champion” and said that President Obama “has done virtually everything in his power to undermine the institution of marriage.”

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Sounds like Romney pulled off the lemon used car sale with some evangelical leaders. They are going thrown under the bus if Romney wins.
1 posted on 04/11/2012 1:09:54 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
the National Organization for Marriage, a leading opponent of same-sex marriage, endorsed Mr. Romney on Wednesday morning.

Wonder how big that check was. It also shows why I oppose "organizations". They're too easily bought.
2 posted on 04/11/2012 1:15:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: C19fan

Please. Don’t tell me you are buying this.


3 posted on 04/11/2012 1:15:54 PM PDT by ngat
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To: C19fan

There is no reason for evangelicals to support live born fetus killing Mr. Obama. In case some are not aware that is the bill he sponsored in Illinois legislature which allowed the abortionist doctor to kill the fetus if it was still alive outside the mother after the abortion.


4 posted on 04/11/2012 1:16:40 PM PDT by entropy12 (z)
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To: C19fan
INSANITY!

5 posted on 04/11/2012 1:17:00 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: C19fan

I’m not voting for HairHelmet —I’ll stay home.

Easy.

Go ahead and dump on me —I’ll ENJOY staying home.


6 posted on 04/11/2012 1:20:14 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: C19fan

“......some evangelical leaders have begun to rally behind Mr. Romney....”

I am not the least bit surprised.

Heck, maybe I should reconsider my principles too...being a god over my very own planet might be kinda cool.


7 posted on 04/11/2012 1:20:49 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: C19fan

Following the Pied Piper into the torrent to drown.


8 posted on 04/11/2012 1:22:26 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: C19fan
What a COS! What is wrong with these people?!

Romney has about as much chance of winning as Al Gore does inventing the internet!

9 posted on 04/11/2012 1:23:36 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: C19fan

Oops, sorry C19fan. I clicked on over and read the whole NYSlimes article, and darn if I didn’t see that Gay Bauer and Dr. Dobson, I mean Tony Perkins, appear to have endorsed Romney already. Didn’t think they had the guts to admit their mistake with Saintorum.


10 posted on 04/11/2012 1:25:20 PM PDT by ngat
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To: gaijin

My primary reason for voting will be to move Debbie Stabenow’s seat to the right.


11 posted on 04/11/2012 1:25:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: C19fan

National Organization for Marriage: Hypocrites. I intend on writing them a friendly, yet stern letter telling them the truth about Mitt Romey and “marriage”.

-JS.

Contact Information

National Organization for Marriage
2029 K Street NW, Suite 300
Washington, DC 20006

Toll-Free: (888) 894-3604
Email: contact@nationformarriage.org
Contact us using our online form.

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P.O. Box 28925
Philadelphia, PA 19151-9900


12 posted on 04/11/2012 1:35:15 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: C19fan
This is the clearest example I've seen in years that "Evangelical Social Conservatives" are not really conservatives. They believe they are. And, they believe they're doing the right thing.

But they are not reliable conservatives nor reliable Republicans.

They will vote for anyone that sings their song. Many have no beef with the Democrat party except homo marriage and abortion. In fact, some democrats have been elected with overt Socon support when they take up these two positions.

The GOP should quit pandering to this constituency. Let them vote their conscience and move on.

13 posted on 04/11/2012 1:38:00 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: C19fan

Tough choice, Romney v Obama.

Sorta like the choice between hanging or being shot.


14 posted on 04/11/2012 1:39:37 PM PDT by lurk
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To: C19fan
So Y'all have dumped on all the other candidates, one by one and now we got Mittens.

...See

What a crying shame.m to recall that's how we got Obama in the first place!!!!

What a cryin' shame!

15 posted on 04/11/2012 1:42:42 PM PDT by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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To: FixitGuy

Sorry for the goofy post.. Wife called as I was trying to edit.


16 posted on 04/11/2012 1:44:41 PM PDT by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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To: entropy12

Yes, I’m aware of that. But IMO, there’s also no reason for evangelicals to support a man who made it possible for women to prance into abortion clinics and have their babies killed for only $50.


17 posted on 04/11/2012 1:48:24 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: C19fan

There will be NO edging or turning to the side of this puking liberal for this Christian family. I will not under any circumstances cast a vote for this guy. He shares ZERO values that I have. We are Christian, Patriots, conservative, military supporting, anti-abortion, anti-homo marriage, and will not vote for a guy that is for all my againsts and againsts all of my fors.


18 posted on 04/11/2012 1:49:26 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

There were a couple of jokes made on our local paper web site about the Obama negative ad against Romney’s negative ads in the primary.

Someone said that it wasn’t much of a choice, Magic Underwear or Magic Negro.

Someone else said that the choice was someone who thinks that he is God against someone who believes he will become a God.

I don’t usually approve of making fun of Romney’s religion, but I’m so fed up with his negative advertising that I think Romney deserves a little joking about his beliefs.


19 posted on 04/11/2012 1:53:31 PM PDT by Eva
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To: C19fan

NOM must not have paid too much attention during Mitten Thurston Howell’s tenure in Massataxes


20 posted on 04/11/2012 1:54:50 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: RetiredArmy

Thank you! I totally agree with you and DISAGREE with this dumb article.


21 posted on 04/11/2012 1:56:23 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: C19fan

Of the serious candidates for the office of President of the United States, Romney is clearly the less bad of the two. Only on thing stands betwseen him and the Oval Office - the willingness to take the fight to Obama.

As was so snarkily asked of George W. Bush, by no less a personage than Nancy Pelosi, Where are the jobs, Mr President? But so far nobody is asking Obama this question.

Follow that inquiry with, What about the price of gasoline, and now, increasingly, the price of electricity, Mr. President? Was it a good idea to cap off the production of electricity from coal? Of course, we have plentiful supplies of natural gas, and pretty cheap, as well, why is the installation of natural-gas burning power plants not being ramped up as swiftly as the installations can be built and put on-line? Why are there no incentives in place to take advantage of this relatively inexpensive source of motor vehicle fuel, by making much more of our passenger and trucking fleet capable of using this fuel source? What about building the infrastructure, fueling stations and retrofit systems to service existing vehicles?

There is a growing gap, that cannot ever be filled with various kinds of “green” energy, be it from sunlight, or wind power, or sprinkles of fairy dust. Get ahead of and fill this gap before it ever fully opens up, and stop wasting time, talent and treasure on what are crackpot schemes to somehow claim the “free” energy we only need to harness from the wind and sun.

There is a niche for these “renewable” energy sources, but they shall always be subject to the whims of climate and circumstance, and are not, never can be, a reliable source here on the surface of the earth.

Some 80 years ago, there were windmills on a large share of rural locations, both to pump water (primary function) and some few that drove a generator which charged up a series of Edison cell batteries, and provided a rudimentary source of electric power. But wind power proved unreliable then, and when electricity was finally made available to the vast majority of rural locations, the windmills were promptly abandoned. Some few rusty, twisted skeletons may still remain, testament to a means of extracting energy from nature that never proved any superiority to a steady flow of water or the conversion of the heat energy from burning of coal or fuel oil to widely distributed high-tension alternating current electricity.

There are so many ways to frame this coming campaign - let it by defined by the first person who can get in there to pose the questions, and give the answers the American public is so desperately waiting for.

A. Jobs and full employment, in like the 4% unemployment range among ALL able-bodied and willing citizens, only going to foreign sources when it is impossible to fill the work rosters with domestic talent.

B. Decent return on investment that prompts potential investors to put cash behind the ideas that expand and embellish the availability of every source of creative energy, unencumbered with excessive taxation and/or regulation.

C. Recognition that most of life is NOT the purview of government at ANY level to insist on some kind of oversight over the activities of the vast majority of people, and reverence for the sanctity of home, law and contractual obligations between individuals.

We do not ask much of most of the men who have served as President, only that they be decent men, and recognize their role is not to micromanage, but to give general direction and delegate power to those who may best administer that general vision that accentuates and preserves what is good about America.

The stewardship of the Oval Office is a duty of high calling, and ask yourself, who, of the persons now bidding for the job over the next four years, and all the decades that follow, best exemplifies that definition of “good steward”.


22 posted on 04/11/2012 1:57:18 PM PDT by alloysteel (It is hard to get a man to understand, when his pay depends upon his not understanding something.)
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To: Mariner

If they endorse Romney, they don’t even have a problem with gay marraige.


23 posted on 04/11/2012 1:57:56 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Eva

I’ll be honest-—Romney’s religion is a huge problem for me. Mormon doctrine is so out there, so nuts, and their “scriptures” so blasphemous, that I can’t get bothered when someone goes after his religion. There is so much material there to BE attacked, and the GOPe knew this when they set their hearts on pushing him as nominee.


24 posted on 04/11/2012 1:58:43 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Mariner

And a lot of “pro-gun” Democrats have gotten “conservative” support too over the years, allowing them to be one more vote against gun rights.


25 posted on 04/11/2012 2:03:15 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: C19fan

I wonder if there is a regional distinction.


26 posted on 04/11/2012 2:12:32 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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27 posted on 04/11/2012 2:18:44 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: CatherineofAragon
Romney's nomination takes so many issues off the table, including his continued association with Rev notRight.
28 posted on 04/11/2012 2:49:59 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romney - Santorum: Twin Sons of Different Mothers...)
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To: C19fan
The DgOPe live for these kind of elections. They could run a stapler agains Obamie and win so they use the opportunity to install the most liberal progressive they can find in the Presidency.

1Sa 8:7>/u> And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them.

29 posted on 04/11/2012 3:00:36 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: C19fan
Newt not brave won't be free
                                              

"He led us to victory before. Spectacular, historic victory. The strategy and content of his 1994 Contract with America propelled the Republicans in 1994 to win control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. Even the Reagan Revolution in the 1980s failed to achieve that.

Moreover, once in power, Gingrich delivered on his promises, and maintained a solid conservative record. He carried out the Contract with America in full, holding a vote on every item as promised, most of which did pass. His record was unswervingly pro-life, pro-gun and Second Amendment, and anti-tax.

Newt's the only one with the experience, and the courage to guide America through these troubling times.   

And Evangelical Leaders want you to vote for Mitt Romney.            

30 posted on 04/11/2012 3:12:52 PM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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“With Santorum Out, Evangelicals Edge Toward Romney, but Cautiously”

Not this one...

Willard is a liberal abortion supporter, gay marriage supporter, liberal judge supporter,
government mandate supporter, global warmer and tax raiser... plus he’s in a cult.

Not going to happen. I vote for conservatives.


31 posted on 04/11/2012 3:24:21 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I wouldnÂ’t vote for Romney for dog catcher if he was in a three way race against Lenin and Marx!)
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To: RetiredArmy

Sometimes one’s best choice is a bad choice. Setting on your ass and doing nothing is what Obama wants you to do. By default you are supporting the entire Obama agenda.


32 posted on 04/11/2012 3:32:08 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: alloysteel

“... ask yourself, who, of the persons now bidding for the job over the next four years, and all the decades that follow, best exemplifies that definition of “good steward”.”

OR a better question.

... Would you rather have an enemy we can openly and fiercely oppose and that will galvanize our whole team to fight for America, or a false liberal friend, who will lead the establishment RINOs into the identical liberal causes and that they will feel they must support because he is their president?


33 posted on 04/11/2012 3:38:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I wouldnÂ’t vote for Romney for dog catcher if he was in a three way race against Lenin and Marx!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Exactly.


34 posted on 04/11/2012 3:46:08 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I believe that people can evolve from their earlier beliefs. Ronald Reagan once voted for abortion. He changed. And he stayed changed. Romney also claims he is now pro-life. Until I see a deviation from that I am willing to give him a pass.


35 posted on 04/11/2012 4:27:12 PM PDT by entropy12 (I absolutely believe in American exceptional-ism, the Constitution and justice for all.)
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To: entropy12

Are you serious? Surely you can’t be. If it was one issue and Romney had “evolved” from that, I’d be willing to give him a pass, too. But Romney has flipped and flopped on EVERY ISSUE that has ever come up, and more than once. His wife said he can argue both sides so well, you don’t know which one he’s on, and the man even lied about his own NAME in one of the debates. He will blow with the wind, and tell whoever he’s with what they want to hear. The fact that supposed thinking conservatives can even think about trusting such a liar is frightening to me.


36 posted on 04/11/2012 4:38:24 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: CatherineofAragon

If you search through my posts you will discover that I support Newt. Now that Romney looks inevitable, I am just beginning to study his record as Gov. of MA. I do not have any concerns about his financial management skills. No one has ever made quarter of a Billion dollars without that skill. I already know he was a social liberal in MA. But if he also was a fiscal liberal in MA, that would be disappointing to me.

However I know one thing for certain. Obama is 100% liberal on BOTH social and fiscal issues. There is no way I would do anything to help Barack.


37 posted on 04/11/2012 5:03:14 PM PDT by entropy12 (I absolutely believe in American exceptional-ism, the Constitution and justice for all.)
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To: C19fan

NOM has been lying for Romney for years.

No surprises here.

Follow the money.


38 posted on 04/11/2012 5:08:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: em2vn

You do whatever strikes your fancy pal. I will do whatever I want to do. I served 20 years in the service of this Republic and fought in war for the RIGHT to make whatever decision I WANT TO MAKE. And your big mouth does not tell me what to do. Yours.


39 posted on 04/11/2012 5:29:21 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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To: entropy12; SoConPubbie

Yes, Romney is a financial whiz. That’s why he left Massachusetts in such horrible shape.

If you’re researching his record, you should search SoConPubbie’s posts. He’s done some good work on Romney, both fiscal and social.


40 posted on 04/11/2012 5:35:15 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: RetiredArmy

Thank you for your service, and God bless you!


41 posted on 04/11/2012 5:36:46 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Thanks for the tip, but I rely more on articles from Wall Street Journal and Barron’s and Investor’s Business Daily. There I can search on Romney’s news clips during his governorship of 4 years. I will also keep in mind that the MA legislature is overwhelmingly democrat. The one item I am really interested is in double checking if Romney really used 800 vetoes in 4 years against the democrats, as he claims.


42 posted on 04/11/2012 8:34:42 PM PDT by entropy12 (I absolutely believe in American exceptional-ism, the Constitution and justice for all.)
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To: entropy12

Have we heard yet from O. J. Simpson or is he too busy looking for his wife’s killer.
Oh, never mind!


43 posted on 04/11/2012 8:39:29 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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To: GOYAKLA

Keep your day time job. You are not making it as a comedian.


44 posted on 04/11/2012 8:45:25 PM PDT by entropy12 (I absolutely believe in American exceptional-ism, the Constitution and justice for all.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Thank you catherine. God bless you and yours.


45 posted on 04/12/2012 6:21:03 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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