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George Zimmerman expected to be charged in Trayvon Martinís death (And was)
Yahoo ^ | April 11, 2012 | Dylan Stableford

Posted on 04/11/2012 2:45:48 PM PDT by Arthurio

Official: Zimmerman is in custody and will be charged with 2nd-degree murder

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: angelacorey; bizarroworld; circus; constitutionalvictim; georgezimmerman; insanity; justicefortrayvon; medialynchmob; ourvictim; positiveenergy; preciousvictim; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermancharged
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To: Moonman62

You make a good point, FRiend.


251 posted on 04/11/2012 6:04:56 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: DallasSun

That is absolutely false. Prosecutors are supposed to represent the law, sometimes characterized as “the people,” but never an individual or specific group of individuals. By her own words Corey clearly was saying she was representing Trayvon and his family as “victims.” Totally inappropriate.


252 posted on 04/11/2012 6:08:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Arthurio

Corey Press Conference

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1r-idmJTK3I


253 posted on 04/11/2012 6:10:41 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: popdonnelly
Pop... I wouldn't even bother watching a Sharpton memorial service.

In fact lately I seldom turn on a TV and there are four in my house..I was at one time a FOX addict but am no longer, don't even miss it...

and politics have lately given me a bad taste and so will not waste my time with RNC nor DNC conventions this time around...will work in the garden to provide fresh veggies for my family and friends...

254 posted on 04/11/2012 6:14:01 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: Arthurio

Our justice system is being held hostage by Jesse & Co.

Your right and it will darned hard to protect yourself no matter how much your life might be in danger. Back to the old throw down weapon!


255 posted on 04/11/2012 6:23:38 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: DallasSun

No, i said that it would be a reverse OJ verdict. They will convict as a matter of social justice.

They are making all the claims that we have heard over and over again in the media, that we don’t know that it was Zimmerman calling for help, that he had malicious intent, etc, etc. There is no way in the world that Zimmerman is going to get anywhere near a fair trial, especially after Obama came out with his prejudicial remarks.

This looks very, very bad for the country. This looks like Obama is using this case for nothing but an election issue. What is so scary, is that if they can do this to Zimmerman, they can do it to you or anyone else. Trump up the charges and twist the evidence.


256 posted on 04/11/2012 6:34:52 PM PDT by Eva
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To: tallyhoe
Your right and it will darned hard to protect yourself no matter how much your life might be in danger. Back to the old throw down weapon!

Too risky. DNA and prints.

I'll stick to the 3S treatment if need be, especially the "shut up" part.

257 posted on 04/11/2012 6:36:34 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: DallasSun
Victim is just the term they use. You have a victim and a perpetrator...it is just a legal term to differentiate. It says nothing else.

Totally horsecrap.

It's a term you used.

I believe the victim was Zimmerman. Big difference. No?

You might hoodwink some here, but not me slick.

258 posted on 04/11/2012 7:40:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: beandog
That's exactly what I was saying. I said:

"Zimmerman clearly committed an act that, in the absence of some legal justification, constitutes second-degree murder in Florida. The only issue in the case, then, is whether Zimmerman was legally justified. "

259 posted on 04/11/2012 8:17:35 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: kiryandil; DallasSun
Are you a clown, or do you just play one on Free Republic? Prosecutors don't pray with the involved families.

This prosecutor and her team did, and Mr. DallasSun thinks this is perfectly normal on a professional level.

In a world gone mad.

260 posted on 04/11/2012 8:35:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Arthurio
Could someone help me out here??

I thought it was the job of a special prosecutor to do an investigation to see if a crime has been committed, not how an accused person can be prosecuted.

Am I right??

261 posted on 04/11/2012 8:36:42 PM PDT by Houmatt (NObama in 2012!)
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To: Hulka
Based upon what we know, please tell me how she can prove beyond a reasonable doubt the three elements of the crime:

“In order to convict a defendant in Florida of Second-degree murder, the State of Florida must prove the following three elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

The victim is dead; The death was caused by the criminal act of the defendant; There was an unlawful killing of the victim by an act imminently dangerous to another and demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life.”

Thanks. OK, here goes:

1. The victim is dead: Obvious

2. The death was caused by the criminal act of the defendant: Again, obvious. Zimmerman shot Martin, which caused his death.

3. There was an unlawful killing of the victim by an act imminently dangerous to another and demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life.: This one is the tricky one. There was clearly a killing (leaving aside the "unlawful" part, since more than enough has been said about that already), and Zimmerman's act of shooting him was clearly "imminently dangerous to another." The "depraved mind without regard for human life" part is tough to prove. I think this, too, will come down to the self-defense issue, because the prosecutor will likely argue that, without justification, the act of intentionally shooting someone is an act that, in itself, demonstrates a depraved mind. I doubt that any jury that would find that Zimmerman's actions were not justified would somehow also find that he did not act with a depraved mind.

262 posted on 04/11/2012 8:41:29 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Houmatt

LOL...This circus coming out of Florida, is just over the top...I’ve never seen such PC race baiting BS in my entire life.

The female prosecutor and her pathetic speech conference as if she was speaking to an audience of 4th grade children was unreal.


263 posted on 04/11/2012 9:01:48 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FryingPan101

He’s always said he did it. The question is why and how did he come to be on the ground.


264 posted on 04/11/2012 9:15:47 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: Arthurio

265 posted on 04/11/2012 9:27:59 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Darren McCarty

Too risky. DNA and prints.

Once ya stick the knife in his or her hand they will have their DNA on it!


266 posted on 04/12/2012 12:34:36 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Eva

I have more faith in the justice system than that Eva. Most jurists take their roles so seriously. They will listen to the evidence and the arguments....the judge. Let’s wait and see. Also, we have not seen the evidence. You know the Anthony jury knew how unpopular that verdict would be but felt the state had not proved its case...even though they felt she was guilty. That is exactly what they are supposed to do. We can hope ..after the evidence is in, we will get a just verdict no matter which way it goes.


267 posted on 04/12/2012 12:45:24 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: dragnet2

Mrs. Dallas Sun and good morning to you too. I did not say how I felt about the praying with the family. Actually, I dont feel either way about it. Does not matter to me. That is what she does. And I do not care. Does not bother me if she does or does not.


268 posted on 04/12/2012 12:49:04 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: dragnet2

Oh stop. It is a legal term. The prosecutor used. You know exactly what I was saying, Spanky. Do not be rude.


269 posted on 04/12/2012 12:50:58 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun

Faith in the justice system that is being run by Eric Holder???


270 posted on 04/12/2012 1:19:59 AM PDT by Eva
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To: DallasSun

This is very different than the Casey Anthony case. That case was not political. This case is nothing but political.


271 posted on 04/12/2012 1:21:46 AM PDT by Eva
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To: DallasSun

This is very different than the Casey Anthony case. That case was not political. This case is nothing but political.


272 posted on 04/12/2012 1:22:08 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

No, no, Eva. Not faith in the DOJ. I have faith in the jury system. The jurists will receive jury instructions..and they are very sobering, before they go into the deliberation room. Those instructions leave one with no doubt about what you are charged with doing. If the evidence is not there, he will get an acquittal. If there is evidence we obviously are not privy to at this time, he won’t.


273 posted on 04/12/2012 2:31:47 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: KansasGirl

Well, Free Republic can help raise money for him. He does have a Facebook page with a link to his Pay Pal account. If someone could post a link to his page, that would be a good thing. Being chronically broke in two currencies, I can’t do much right now, but others might, and I might later when things improve.


274 posted on 04/12/2012 2:51:07 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: DallasSun; Eva
I have more faith in the justice system than that Eva.

Clown.

Eva was here when Clinton walked.

275 posted on 04/12/2012 4:50:35 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

I am responding to Eva who posts intelligent, mature posts. I do not respond to immature, rude posts laced with name calling. Should that person desire a response, they need to stop the name calling and not be rude. Until this time arrives, this person is wasting keystrokes.


276 posted on 04/12/2012 7:42:35 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Darren McCarty

The link is obvious to some of us. Pam Bondi is likely to get a Federal Appointment if Romney wins. Corey would then get the Attorney General job in Florida. Her press conference was a campaign speech, nothing more.


277 posted on 04/12/2012 8:21:54 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: DallasSun
When you start posting something intelligent, let me know.

Have you visited Wagist.com to see the error of your ways yet?

**snort** - I thought not...

278 posted on 04/12/2012 8:32:48 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: DallasSun
This prosecutor and her team sat there and prayed with Martin's family? And Ms. DallasSun thinks this is perfectly normal on a professional level.

Does not matter to me.

Of course it doesn't matter to you, as your the one who said Florida Prosecutor Angela Corey was "World respected" as she gave a speech, talking to the television audience as if they were all 7 years old.

Watching Corey walk out winking and nodding at the cameras and her media friends in the room as if she was at the Academy Awards was one of the most disgusting media circuses I've ever seen.

Corey, clearly giddy about the attention, is smiling ear to ear, during a news conference about some guy that was shot dead.

279 posted on 04/12/2012 10:34:46 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I said she is “well respected” in the legal community. Or at least that is what I meant to say. If I misspoke I do apologize. Also, she has a reputation for praying and being an unapologetic Christian. I have no personal opinion about that. I am more interested in her as a prosecutor. The judge has now seen the probable cause affidavit and agreed and found probable cause for the second degree murder charge. That tells me there is alot we do not know...because nothing we do would have risen to this charge. Nor surprising we don’t know, of course. Not saying that.


280 posted on 04/12/2012 11:00:52 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: doug from upland

Scary website.


281 posted on 04/12/2012 11:11:36 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: DallasSun
Ms. DallasSun supports political whore Ms. Corey and her Pollyanna, politically correct speech meant for 7 year olds?

All as Corey pandered to minorities and race baiters on a national level.

Not enough?

It was followed by professional leftist, Blank Panthers and other applauding black racist!

She all but winked and nodded to her media fans and government co-workers during her speech, while attempting to control her glee.

This was Corey's Political Awards moment. Describing it as disgusting, would be an understatement.

Mad magazine should do a cover of her speech.

282 posted on 04/12/2012 11:38:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Do not presume to speak for me again. You are wrong on several counts. And why would you presume to speak for me and to whom are you announcing this? And why?? Stop. You completely missed the points.


283 posted on 04/12/2012 12:08:16 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: dragnet2

I did not see all of her speech. Her speech is neither here nor there for me. What she does in court is what matters. Do not ever put me in any category that supports the black panthers. You do not know me from Adam’s housecat. And I have no idea what you equate with pandering to race baiters or....what are you saying???? You are saying she was pandering to minorities? What????? Stop. And why would you use the word whore for a professional Special Prosecutor? You are just wrong on so many points.


284 posted on 04/12/2012 12:12:31 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: little jeremiah; All

Nobody will win if the “stupid people” take to the streets...

Whats funny, maybe more sad than anything, is that is what they’ve been wanting for a long time...


286 posted on 04/12/2012 2:53:19 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Occupy the Gun Range!!!)
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To: stylecouncilor

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287 posted on 04/12/2012 8:08:11 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: DallasSun

Do you have any understanding of restorative justice?

Jury instructions don’t mean a thing if the jury is already politicized by the media, which they already are. I don’t think that you could find 12 people in the whole country who have not heard that Trayvon Martin was a young black boy that looked like he could have been Obama’s son.


288 posted on 04/12/2012 8:36:34 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Interesting, but when you state: “2. The death was caused by the criminal act of the defendant: Again, obvious. Zimmerman shot Martin, which caused his death”

There is nothing from what we know, no facts we are aware, to state the shooting was criminal in nature. Just allegations but no proof and the prosecution offers none.

Shooting someone in self-defense to repel a home invasion, for example, or shooting someone to save your life (in fear of your life or the life of another) most certainly is not a criminal act. So, just because someone shot someone is not by itself a criminal act. Therefore, element #2 is not proved as the state offers no proof at this time to prove he acted unlawfully when the thug was shot.

I suggest the state has no facts to prove beyond a reasonable doubt element #2 was a criminal act.

Element 3, that would need to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt and if not proved then element #2 most certainly is a non-issue.

The state has to prove all three elements and I think even Ray Charles can see the state is over-charging and has no chance of a Murder 2 conviction. It is all for show.


289 posted on 04/13/2012 2:06:05 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Eva

I have more understanding of same than you know. There is nothing wrong with the jury knowing Trayvon was a young man. Zimmerman’s atty has said everyone is aware of the tragedy and the fact someone lost a son. He knows what he is doing. You do not demonize Trayvon. That would be a huge mistake. And the atty is sincere. That was not calculated.


290 posted on 04/13/2012 8:39:36 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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