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ZIMMERMAN CHARGED WITH SECOND DEGEE MURDER
ap ^ | april 11,2012 | pawpawrick

Posted on 04/11/2012 3:19:09 PM PDT by pawpawrick

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – George Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder for the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, according to the Associated Press.

Additionally, Zimmerman has been taken into custody, but it hasn’t been revealed where he is being held.

CBSMiami has confirmed that State Attorney Angela Corey, who was appointed as a special prosecutor in the case, will hold an announcement about the charges at 6 p.m. in Jacksonville.

That press conference can be viewed LIVE starting at 6 p.m. by clicking here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: angelacorey; angelacory; arrest; bizarroworld; george; georgezimmerman; justicefortrayvon; murder; preciousvictim; seconddegreemurder; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermancharged
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To: USAF80

He isn’t charged with that, or even under that paragraph of the code.


451 posted on 04/11/2012 8:53:49 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: butterdezillion
Any time they know that somebody contributed to the death of another they have to charge that person?

Can't be the case, or the original prosecutor would have charged him. He didn't think the evidence warranted it.

452 posted on 04/11/2012 8:54:11 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: amishman

[[I doubt he makes it. I can’t imagine him surviving more than a few days, even in county jail.]]

Exactly, how i nthe hell is he ‘more safe’ in a prison full of hateful racist murderous black people? (not imoplying all people in prison are black or even mjurderous- but a lot are- there’s also a lot of white murderers too- Cripes- I even hjave to qualify statements now?)


453 posted on 04/11/2012 8:54:21 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Lex Gabba

I suspect they will have a hard time convicting Zimmerman unless:
1. It was the kid on the ground doing the screaming
2. There is evidence that Zimmerman “provoked” the incident (which at least in Texas would remove his self defense protections); but provoke can have a multitude of interpretations.
3. If the broken nose and blood on his shirt is not backed up by the evidence.
4. If the witnesses that backed up his side of the story renege.
5. If the autopsy doesn’t back up Zimmerman’s story of the events.

In the absence some combination of the above, the best the prosecution can expect will be a hung jury (unless jurors get intimidated by black panther bounty crap). And then of course it will be riot time.

From portions of Texas PC 9.32 Deadly Force in Defense of a Person:
To protect the actor against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force.
A person who has a right to be present at the location where the deadly force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the deadly force is used and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force was used IS NOT REQUIRED TO RETREAT BEFORE USING DEADLY FORCE as described in the section. Also finders of fact MAY NOT consider whether the actor failed to retreat. (emphasis mine).

I’m relatively certain Florida’s laws are very similar.

Nostradamus called me today and said, “I see race violence in the middle and latter part of the year 2012 and continuing until 2013 whether or not dictators prevail, assuming my prediction of the end of the world on 12/21 does not come to fruition. He said he consulted the Mayan calendar before making the call.


454 posted on 04/11/2012 8:55:22 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: PhatHead

WTF is going on PhatHead? I feel like logic and reason has been dumped right on it’s head.


455 posted on 04/11/2012 8:55:55 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Jeff Head
Sad day for our nation.

Sad? No. Disgusting.

Think of all those who have given their lives for our constitution and our justice system. Disgusting is the only word. Not sad.

456 posted on 04/11/2012 8:56:31 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: butterdezillion

Where you’re getting cobbled up is by assuming that somehow a homicide victim will have “this was justifiable” tattooed to his forehead, and that nobody would ever falsely claim the homicide was justifiable. So you’re starting out having already assumed the homicide was justifiable, whereas nobody else involved knows whether it was or not.

Again, when they have probable cause to believe that one person violated the statute prohibiting the UNLAWFUL killing of another a charge is filed. Accident or justification go to the issue of whether the killing was unlawful or not. If the prosecutor does not believe the death was accidental or justifiable, a charge is filed.

In other words, there’s no such thing as a charge that says, “we believe this guy lawfully killed someone”. In that case, no charge would be filed.


457 posted on 04/11/2012 9:00:20 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: butterdezillion

” It just doesn’t make sense for her to file these charges unless there’s something blatant that the police ignored.”

POLITICS.....nothing else.


458 posted on 04/11/2012 9:00:35 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

I am scratching my head. Based on the (large amount of) publicly available information, I just can’t see how on earth that prosecutor thinks there is a second degree murder case to be made. I’ve been saying for weeks that I’d be stunned if he wasn’t charged with something, just due to the politics, but this sure seems like an over-reach.


459 posted on 04/11/2012 9:06:45 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: PhatHead

Purposeful over-reach?


460 posted on 04/11/2012 9:09:22 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: butterdezillion
By charging Zimmerman with a crime, this gal is disbelieving that it was self-defense then. Does she have to have probable cause to disbelieve it? Is there any way that she would be held accountable to actual evidentiary standards on something like that?

1. Yes

2. No. The burden of proof is on Zimmerman

3. There is a general duty not to prosecute unless the prosecutor is of the opinion that a crime has been committed and a conviction can be obtained. Prosecutorial discretion is pretty wide, though. The check on it is that when the case gets to court, the judge's first determination is whether there's evidence to believe a crime has been committed. If he's not buying, the case gets tossed.

461 posted on 04/11/2012 9:10:08 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
By the way, I think it's kind of funny that the New Black Panthers, because of another current case being prosecuted by Angela Corey, "wants to call on the Black and Hispanic community to support a petition drive to have State Attorney Angela Corey recalled from office."

I wonder if they'll pull back on that petition now?

462 posted on 04/11/2012 9:10:31 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: PhatHead

Really? I didn’t know that lol.


463 posted on 04/11/2012 9:11:58 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: pawpawrick

...”In 2006, Corey was fired by Harry Shorstein, former state attorney for Florida’s 4th Judicial Circuit. He said the firing stemmed from a complaint by a law school intern that Corey was abusive toward women. Corey responded with letters criticizing the intern’s professor and dean, Shorstein said. “I said that was unprofessional, you must apologize. She refused.”

Corey has said she was fired because she had announced her intention to run for state prosecutor to replace Shorstein.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-04-11/corey-florida-prosecutor-trayvon-martin/54189310/1


464 posted on 04/11/2012 9:12:07 PM PDT by KyGeezer
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To: ArmstedFragg
In this case, because of the racial tension and 24/7 reporting, the prosecutor had no choice but to file charges. If she had not, there would have been hell to pay. After a lengthy trial where all of the evidence will come out, hopefully cooler heads will prevail. But I do not think that will happen in this case. If Zimmerman is acquitted, the black panthers, Sharpton, Jackson, and all of the other race baiters will be up in arms and a mini race war will break out. Be sure to have plenty of ammo on hand! Lock and load!
465 posted on 04/11/2012 9:13:42 PM PDT by physcitech (God only knows)
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To: ladyjane

Agreed...in fact, disgusting is not stern enough. Traitorous, treacherous.

The fact is, a group of militry dressed militants put a one million dollar bounty on the head of a US citizen who had not been charged with anything, and then threatened to wage civil war with blood in the streets.

NOTHING has been done to these criminals...and yet now, the man who defended himself while being beat is arrested on 2nd degree murder charges.

Like I say, perhaps there is more evidence that contradicts Zimmerman and the witnesses...it will come out.

If not...if there is no absolutely damning evidence, then Zimmerman should be acquitted.

And the State of Florida should immediately arrest the people conspiring to kidnap, murder, and wage rebellious war.

Holder is an American hating, anti-constitutional ideolog just like his boss.

The Man who Despises America
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm

America at the Crossroads of History
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


466 posted on 04/11/2012 9:17:32 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Houmatt
There's a difference between substance and form. On form, no, on substance, yes. I prefer prosecutors who take the “more in sorrow than in vengeance” approach. Make the statement, announce the decision, and wrap it up. When you get into “justice for Trayvon”, you're really exceeding your roll. That stuff also has a chance to show up in an appeal where the argument that the prosecution polluted the jury pool is sometimes made. It's just poor form to me.

As far as substance went, I thought she adequately described the process.

What was your take?

467 posted on 04/11/2012 9:19:00 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Houmatt

Make that “role”.


468 posted on 04/11/2012 9:20:24 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

All anybody can go on is evidence. Or at least that’s how it’s supposed to be.

Can you think of evidence that would undo the evidence of the witnesses, 911 call, and Zimmerman’s injuries? Obviously if there were irreconcilable discrepancies in the accounts or evidence that would negate their value. But surely the police would have been looking for discrepancies as well.


469 posted on 04/11/2012 9:24:50 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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470 posted on 04/11/2012 9:27:44 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Spunky
I am thinking that if there was no charge there would have been riots in the streets and it would have gotten really ugly. If she had charged him with something less then 2nd degree a jury might have found him guilty of that. But she knows he is not guilty so she charges him with something high enough that she is pretty sure a jury would never find him not guilty of.

I agree. I think you've covered it. It's actually a very smart plan, because it's a defense against the REAL attack, which is not against Zimmerman, but a political sabotage designed to incite race riots by the filthy Democrats as part of a political attack against all of America. They think they've got it nailed - damned if you do, damned if you don't. But nobody - absolutely nobody in the universe - can stretch things out into nowhereland like a prosecutor's office. And that's exactly what's going to happen here. And when the street racists are long bored out of their tired little vicious minds, and Obama's long lost the election, Zimmerman will finally be acquited - in peace.

471 posted on 04/11/2012 9:27:47 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: butterdezillion
We don't have access to all the evidence, so I don't know what all of it shows. I can speculate about possibilities that could be inculpatory, but after the four hours we spent putting away the speculation about stalking, I don't want to risk going through that again. Let's just wait and see what the evidence shows at trial. The only thing that's clear is that the Prosecutor concluded it shows a crime has been committed and Zimmerman committed it. Now she gets to try to prove that to a judge and jury.
472 posted on 04/11/2012 9:36:55 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Cinnamontea
But what will happen if Zimmerman is found guilty?

He will become yet another sacrifice on the altar of black racism. He will be sold down the river by the government that is deathly afraid of rocking the boat. The government is willing to do *anything* - to pay money, to not prosecute, to catch and release, to release convicts early, and to do many other things simply because the 10% minority is ready and willing to wreck the country if their demands are not met.

Isn't it funny that no one seems to worry what normal, decent people -- the majority of people -- will think or do?

If Z is convicted then normal, decent people will, as usual, do nothing. Normal, decent people aren't likely to go berserk and start riots. The ultimate "normal" person (one that is too intelligent) will say "it's all my fault, I could have written a letter to my Congressman, and now it has come to this. Shame on me."

This scenario, as matter of fact, unfolded in pre-WW2 Germany. Jews were alienated, oppressed, arrested - and they did nothing. Not every Jew even tried to escape Germany, let alone forming a rebellion. Many whites in the USA are like that - they think too much, they have things and people to worry about, and they can convince themselves that the troubles will disappear on their own. But they never do.

An abyss separates US blacks and everyone else in the country. That abyss is carefully maintained by race hustlers and by the government who pays for such a lifestyle. The new privileged class wants more, and the government - due to financial crisis - will not be able to give more. At some point the demands of the minority physically can't be met. What happens after that is a sad story.

Perhaps Zimbabwe, or South Africa, could be examples. There black Africans are a majority, though. But that doesn't matter. Communists in Russia in 1917 weren't even close to majority; but they influenced other people - and as result they were in control. Obama's regime is not a majority of the country even if you count every single lowly TSA rape-scan operator. But they tell us how high to jump and how low to drop our pants at airports. Being a majority only allows you to go Pol Pot on the rest of the population.

473 posted on 04/11/2012 9:46:22 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: butterdezillion

[[I’m debating whether to approve that comment on my blog because it’s just an attempt to inject race,]]

Don’t approve it- it’s an attempt ot inject racist illogic- We have the testimony of martin’s own father that hte screams were ‘definately not’ his son’s screams, and we have testimony from george’s friends and family that hte scream/’s were infact george’s- IF the person on your blopg has evidence refuting those FACTS of hte caSE, LET HTEM present them- their reasoning as to why it had to be trayvonm is as you say illogical


474 posted on 04/11/2012 9:48:35 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: nomobs

I disagree. IF he manages to get acquitted in Florida, I have no doubt in my mind that the racists in this administration will not hesitate to go after him.

They need a sacrificial lamb to feed to the racist mobs - evidence and guilt be d@mned!! This isn’t about justice, it is about mob rule and appealing to the masses.

In case you aren’t getting it, the breakdown of our society is well underway.


475 posted on 04/11/2012 9:51:44 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: Gator113
We certainly aren’t. Obama, and his ilk, have taken race relations back by decades.

“Trust” between the races has been deliberately undermined and in some cases, completely destroyed.


Yeah, my boss said the same thing when we were talking about the 2008 election. He said that "race relations have been pushed back to 1970 at the very least." I know myself, except if I know the person, I'm more wary around Blacks as of late. It should not be that way, but when I hear the stories of Black on White (or others) crime, it pays to be on guard. Race relations have always been touch and go but the progress made in the last 40 or 50 years has largely been erased.
476 posted on 04/11/2012 10:00:08 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: tobyhill

I agree. First thought that came to my head when I heard this news was “I’ll be darned, they caved in.” Too much pressure I guess. Does anyone stand their ground anymore? How could there now all of a sudden be enough evidence to convict?


477 posted on 04/11/2012 11:25:33 PM PDT by kelly4c
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To: DustyMoment

“This isn’t about justice, it is about mob rule and appealing to the masses.”

This is exactly why our Founding Fathers gave us the right to a jury trial. Unlike prosecutors (and judges), juries don’t have to answer to the electorate. Convincing twelve jurors beyond a reasonable doubt is going to be a big hurdle.


478 posted on 04/11/2012 11:29:38 PM PDT by juno67 (ui)
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To: DustyMoment

“This isn’t about justice, it is about mob rule and appealing to the masses.”

This is exactly why our Founding Fathers gave us the right to a jury trial. Unlike prosecutors (and judges), juries don’t have to answer to the electorate. Convincing twelve jurors beyond a reasonable doubt is going to be a big hurdle.


479 posted on 04/11/2012 11:29:49 PM PDT by juno67 (ui)
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To: Greysard

That does make sense. I can see how it would help Zimmerman (provided of course he’s proven innocent which is what the evidence or lack thereof as of now shows)because otherwise, sad as the circumstances may be....if he is never tried in a court of law he’ll have to watch his back forever.


480 posted on 04/11/2012 11:33:05 PM PDT by kelly4c
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To: kelly4c
Haven't gone through the entire posts, but I agree that 2nd degree murder is simply not going to be "provable". By going for all the marbles, you get a Rodney King situation. A jury WOULD have convicted the cops on a LESSER charge, but they went for the much more severe charge, and couldn't get the jury to convict.

Result? Acquittal. Riots. Then Obama goes after Z on "civil rights charges", like GHW Bush did. Lotta good THAT did him with the black community he was trying to appease in 1992.

It simply won't work. Didn't 20 years ago. We've learned nothing from history.

481 posted on 04/11/2012 11:34:26 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: butterdezillion

A bit late in the season to do that I think.


482 posted on 04/12/2012 12:08:40 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

We were warned straight up. Obama sat in Rev. Wright’s church for 20 years listening to tirades against white America.


483 posted on 04/12/2012 12:21:57 AM PDT by SuzyQueIN
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To: juno67
This is exactly why our Founding Fathers gave us the right to a jury trial. Unlike prosecutors (and judges), juries don’t have to answer to the electorate. Convincing twelve jurors beyond a reasonable doubt is going to be a big hurdle.

But the whole point of the SYG law was to place the burden of proving that it was NOT self-defense on the prosecution, rather than the previous state of affairs where anyone who acted in self-defense was put through the devastating financial and mental meat-grinder of a trial - where they were first victimized by their attacker, and then by the prosecutors.

484 posted on 04/12/2012 1:08:57 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: who knows what evil?

“Boycott Florida, cripple their economy; and this woman’s political aspirations will be over.”

That’s a stupid, knee jerk recommendation! Where ever did you come up with that??

JC


485 posted on 04/12/2012 1:15:46 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: pawpawrick
Just saw a Promo for the Today Show on NBC.

Travon’s Parents will be interviewed Thursday morning on the same Network that slandered Zimmerman as a Racist with their intentional editing of the 911 audio tape.

Reminds me of Dan Rather's fake but accurate reporting of George Bush in the Air National Guard, just a little worse...

What caught my attention was the Graphic included in the Promo. They showed the picture of Trayvon as an innocent smiling 12 year old and the usual White / Hispanic picture of Zimmerman.

The Media is corrupt to the core.

486 posted on 04/12/2012 1:17:27 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“There is no justice left in Florida... the majority of those polled in Florida will vote for obama... they voted for him in 2008... and crime and murder against whites is growing exponentially. I will never set foot in Florida again... sadly but I just will never go there again.”

Where is your evidence of this accusation that the state had any hand in this? With this type of demagoguery, mebbe it would be a good idea for you to just stay away! We have had enough of that crapola already!

JC


487 posted on 04/12/2012 1:35:07 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: PhatHead
"We do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition. We prosecute based on the facts on any given case as well as the laws of the state of Florida," Angela Cory

Hmm, is that cow manure I smell???

488 posted on 04/12/2012 2:05:09 AM PDT by Have Ruck - Will Travel (Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I...)
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To: chessplayer

Zimmerman not responding back to the two lawyers that may or may not have even been retained by him is totally irrelevant to what the special prosecutor did.
Zimmerman wasn’t even called or re-questioned by this woman.
Her decision to file charges was made as soon as she was assigned to this case or shortly after. The fact he stopped responding back to them this past Sunday didn’t matter one hill of beans to “his case” one way or another.
The die was already cast imo.

He has a good attorney now, though.


489 posted on 04/12/2012 3:04:15 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: Doe Eyes

“Just presenting the other side.”

No, you were just making up the other side with no evidence whatsoever!!

JC


490 posted on 04/12/2012 3:07:14 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: Aglooka; Responsibility2nd

wrong answer!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2870892/replies?c=5


491 posted on 04/12/2012 3:08:01 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Doe Eyes

“If I pick a fight and try start losing I can kill the guy attacking me and get off scott free.”

Real slick there slick, make up a fake strawman argument, then make fake conclusions off of that! A loser all the way around!

JC


492 posted on 04/12/2012 3:18:47 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: pawpawrick

Don’t know much Florida law, but from the info that’s out there on the case I gather that 2nd Degree requires a Grand Jury indictment. Failing that, they’d have to reduce the charges to 3rd Degree.


493 posted on 04/12/2012 3:28:43 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

The City reviewed the case and said that the shooting was self defense. They even had a press release due to the false information being distributed by the alphabet networks.
Subject: Trayvon Martin Investigation

Trayvon Martin Investigation

________________________________________

FAQ Letter

Dear Citizens:

There has been a lot of media attention to the recent incident where George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin. This is indeed a tragic situation and has caused a flood of questions and strong emotions from within our community, the region and nation. On behalf of the employees of the City of Sanford, Our deepest sympathy and prayers go out to the family and friends of Trayvon Martin. As a father, I can only image the pain Trayvon’s family must be going though. In an effort to continue to be as responsive as possible to the public seeking information on the incident, I have asked Chief Lee to provide answers to some of the most frequently asked questions regarding this matter. Below are his responses. . . . .

Fellow Citizens:

There has been a lot of media attention to the recent incident where George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin. This is indeed a tragic situation and has

caused a flood of questions and strong emotions from within our community, the region and nation. On behalf of the employees of the City of Sanford, Our deepest sympathy

and prayers go out to the family and friends of Trayvon Martin. As a father, I can only image the pain Trayvon’s family must be going through. The City of Sanford is

committed to insuring that justice is served and, therefore, the City of Sanford has contacted the United States Attorney General’s Office for assistance in this matter.

In an effort to continue to be as responsive as possible to the public seeking information on the incident, I have asked Chief Lee to provide answers to some of the most frequently

asked questions regarding this matter. Below are his responses. Please understand that since this is still an ongoing investigation, the Police Department is limited in what

information it can publicly release.

The men and women of the Sanford Police Department extend our heartfelt sympathies to the Martin family. This is indeed a tragic situation. The death of

anyone due to violence, especially a 17 year old young man, is morally appalling. As this incident has generated a lot of media attention, we wanted to provide answers to

some of the most frequently asked questions.

Why was George Zimmerman not arrested the night of the shooting?

When the Sanford Police Department arrived at the scene of the incident, Mr. Zimmerman provided a statement claiming he acted in self defense which at the time

was supported by physical evidence and testimony. By Florida Statute, law enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based on the facts and

circumstances they had at the time. Additionally, when any police officer makes an arrest for any reason, the officer MUST swear and affirm that he/she is making the

arrest in good faith and with probable cause. If the arrest is done maliciously and in bad faith, the officer and the City may be held liable.

According to Florida Statute 776.032 :

776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use

of force.—

(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action

for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance

of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have

known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or

prosecuting the defendant.

(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the

person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

Why weren’t the 911 tapes initially released?

There are exemptions to the public records laws for active criminal intelligence and for ongoing investigations. In this instance, the 911 calls made by neighbors in the

subdivision, and the non-emergency call made by Mr. Zimmerman are all key to the investigation by Sanford Police Department. In consultation with the Office of the

State Attorney, the Sanford police department had decided not to release the audio recordings of the 911 calls due to the ongoing investigation. Many times, specific

information is contained in those recordings which is vital to the integrity of the investigation. At the time, it was determined that if revealed, the information may

compromise the integrity of the investigation prior to its completion. The 911 tapes have since been released.

Why did Mr. Zimmerman have a firearm in his possession while acting in the role of a neighborhood watch member?

Mr. Zimmerman holds a concealed weapon permit issued from the State of Florida. He is authorized to carry the weapon in a concealed manner wherever Florida

Statute dictates. Neighborhood Watch programs are designed for members of a neighborhood to be “eyes and ears” for police and to watch out for their neighbors.

They are not members of the Police Department nor are they vigilantes. Training provided by law enforcement agencies to Neighborhood Watch organizations

stresses non-contact surveillance of suspicious situations and notifying police of those situations so that law enforcement can respond and take control of the

situation. Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred. He was in fact on a personal

errand in his vehicle when he observed Mr. Martin in the community and called the Sanford Police Department.

If Zimmerman was told not to continue to follow Trayvon, can that be considered in this investigation?

Yes it will; however, the telecommunications call taker asked Zimmerman “are you following him”. Zimmerman replied, “yes”. The call taker stated “you don’t need to do

that”. The call taker’s suggestion is not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be required to follow. Zimmerman’s statement was that he had lost sight of Trayvon and

was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by Trayvon.

Why was George Zimmerman labeled as “squeaky clean” when in fact he has a prior arrest history?

In one of the initial meetings with the father of the victim the investigator related to him the account that Mr. Zimmerman provided of the incident. At that time the

investigator said that Mr. Zimmerman portrayed himself to be “squeaky clean”. We are aware of the background information regarding both individuals involved in this

event. We believe Mr. Martin may have misconstrued this information.

What about media reenactments of the shooting incident?

Any media reenactments of the shooting incident are purely speculation. To date the Sanford Police Department has not released any rendition of the events of the

evening to anyone other than the Office of the State Attorney. The renditions we have seen are not consistent with the evidence in this case.

The Sanford Police Department has conducted a complete and fair investigation of this incident. We have provided the results of our investigation to the Office of the

State Attorney for their review and consideration for possible criminal prosecution. Although the Police Department is the target of the troubling questions, let me

assure you we too feel the pain of this senseless tragedy that has dramatically affected our community. Therefore, as we move forward and strive to answer the

questions that are a point of controversy in the community, we ask for your patience, understanding and assistance in getting the correct information to the community

We trust that this information is helpful to you.

Norton N. Bonaparte, Jr., ICMA-CM

City Manager

March 23, 2012


494 posted on 04/12/2012 3:33:33 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: cracker45
That’s a stupid, knee jerk recommendation! Where ever did you come up with that??

Actually; it came from several other posters, and it is a damn good idea. Why should ANYONE in their right mind visit a state where they will charge you with MURDER if you try to defend your family against a pack of feral savages?

Floridians put these despicable morons in power; you can live with the consequences.

I won't set foot in that damn state again...

495 posted on 04/12/2012 3:48:29 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: PhatHead

Angela Corey has likely done Mr. Zimmerman a favor by not sending this to a grand jury. Grand Jury indictments are often sealed and would place this entire thing in a shroud of secrecy. This is his best chance for establishing that he has immunity under the stand your ground law. I do wonder what contact if any she had with State and Federal officials before bringing these charges. She would appear to share liability for damages if Mr. Zimmerman is found to have Immunity.

I found an article from the Examiner stating that Mr. Zimmerman has established a defense fund. Here is that article. He needs the best defense that money can buy because he is targeted by Democrats and Rinocrats everywhere.
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-norfolk/george-zimmerman-sets-up-website-legal-defense-fund

The only hate I can find involved in this case is the Left’s hatred of Mr. Zimmerman and the right to self-defense.


496 posted on 04/12/2012 3:50:17 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: Cubs Fan
...even more disgusting, she is a republican appointed to do this by Florida's republican governor.

Live and learn. There's a reason they call it Flori-DUH.

497 posted on 04/12/2012 3:51:06 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Greysard
This scenario, as matter of fact, unfolded in pre-WW2 Germany. Jews were alienated, oppressed, arrested - and they did nothing. Not every Jew even tried to escape Germany, let alone forming a rebellion. Many whites in the USA are like that - they think too much, they have things and people to worry about, and they can convince themselves that the troubles will disappear on their own. But they never do.

Morning bump for this outstanding post!

498 posted on 04/12/2012 3:59:11 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: physcitech
After a lengthy trial where all of the evidence will come out, hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

I hope they aren't that stupid. Sounds like the theory that electing a black man to the presidency would permanently heal the racial divisions in this country.

We see how that is working out...

499 posted on 04/12/2012 4:02:06 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: boop
We've learned nothing from history.

No kidding...didn't learn much from Rhodesia, either...

500 posted on 04/12/2012 4:05:03 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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