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Notice: Free Republic has been in full rebellion mode since 2008 and will remain so for the duration
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | April 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/11/2012 8:04:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Notice: Free Republic has been in full rebellion mode since 2008 and will remain in full rebellion mode for the duration!

No more Doles!! No more McCains!! No more RINOS!!

NO ROMNEY!!

Those who cannot stomach rebellion might as well start looking for a new home on the net!!

Those who have ignored my hundreds of posts on this crucial issue or who have doubted me these last three or four years might as well get used to it. FR will never support the abortionist, homosexualist, socialist, mandate loving, constitution trampling liar Mitt Romney.

In case you haven't noticed, a TEA Party rebellion is on and Free Republic signed on years ago. There is no turning back. No more crap from the GOP-e!! They've screwed us for the last time!! Karl Rove and Mitt Romney, et al, loathe conservatism and loathe the tea party and took it upon themselves to use their money and connections to destroy nearly every one of our conservative tea party candidates while pushing their big government RINOS. That makes them the enemy. I will not reward that betrayal by giving them my support or my vote.

FR is and will remain a pro-life, pro-limited government conservative site!!

We are beholden to NO ONE!! We bow to no kings!! We bow to NO RINOS!!

I'd rather fight and die like a man than bend over and be screwed by a RINO!! I refuse to kiss Karl Rove or Mitt Romney's rings!! They can kiss my rosy red ass instead!!

FUMR!! FUGOP!!

Long live the rebellion!!

Hope my message is clear.


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To: spodefly
I remember when I was young and my elders explained to me that one of the main differences between our republic and the Soviet Union was in the Soviet Union people got to vote, but only for the government approved candidate.

We, of course, were supposed to have a real choice.

Can we, today, say we are offered any real choice? Are not both candidates selected by super-pacs, and media elites, who wield the real power behind the scenes.

The GOP, with its big money supporters has always tried to offer us the least conservative candidate they thought they could get away with. This year, because Obama is so far left, they have offered a candidate only slightly less socialist; knowing that our fear will force us to toe the line and vote for the lesser evil. By doing so, the GOP has made my vote meaningless and hence my participation in the process moot.

Is the only real difference between America today and former Soviet Union, the softness of the whip? If so, I am getting tired of voting for the master with the softer whip.

801 posted on 04/12/2012 9:47:00 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Romney BHO - support abortion
Romney BHO - support homosexual agenda
Romney BHO - support man made global warming
Romney BHO - support gun grabs
Romney BHO - support government mandates
Romney BHO - support big government
Romney BHO - both want to work with democrats
Romney BHO - both support welfare
Sorry, I will not support a man because he has an R after his name who supports the very things that I despise in BHO.


802 posted on 04/12/2012 9:48:07 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

Fine - just dont complain for the next 4 years for whatever obama does.


803 posted on 04/12/2012 9:49:37 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: mojitojoe

Exposing Romney is not bashing Romney, any more than exposing BHO is bashing him.
Unfortunately for you the exposing of Romney is revealing he is not different than BHO.


804 posted on 04/12/2012 9:50:54 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: darrellmaurina; Jim Robinson; JediJones; katiedidit1; true believer forever; onyx; VinL

I sit her aghast that we are expounding on “ain’t it awful”, and NOT mounting a challenge to Romney with the one conservative left standing—Newt!

His enemies have always been ours, they despise HIM and they despise US. Get the picture?

Look where the GOP-E and COMMUNIST firepower has been aimed from the get-go.

THAT man is standing there waiting to lead as soon as we are through ringing our hands!

WE HAVE BETWEEN NOW AND 1144 TO REBEL IN SPADES!

So, what’s it going to be? Endless chatter of Romney, or go Galt with NEWT.

NEWT IS GALT. And, always has been.


805 posted on 04/12/2012 9:52:21 AM PDT by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT.)
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To: publius321

Well said.


806 posted on 04/12/2012 9:53:42 AM PDT by rudman
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To: buckleyfan; Jim Robinson

A vote for a third party is not a "vote for Obama," it’s a vote for a third party.

Agreed. But in order to make an impact with that protest vote, we have to have a sufficient volume of people coalescing around the third party ... or it will go unnoticed. We need name recognition whether that be an individual, or a party, or "NUTS!" if need be. And we need a fair number of people committed to following through with it. I wager we'll all wait to see what rolls out for a bit yet. We have the possibility of a contested convention and an independent candidate appearing on the scene. But the time to define a solid contingency plan is decidedly now.


807 posted on 04/12/2012 9:53:59 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: volunbeer

See post #78 where Idaho_Cowboy explains it.

We do know a great deal about Romney by his actions as Governor if MA, the terrible judges he appointed, his creating RomneyCare, the model Ibama used for his planned takeover of the healthcare industry.

Romney is a Statist, same as Obama. Statism inevitably leads to tyranny,
Romney has no vision for America, except the establishment Statist vision.

Death by firing squad or death by a thousand cuts? The Constitution is still dead.


808 posted on 04/12/2012 9:54:49 AM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Secret Agent Man

And if you can’t figure out the point I am bringing up, I will state it clearly.

If voting for Mittens means supporting a pro-abort, pro gay marriage, gun grabber, romneycare etc etc, then what the hell does Newt saying he’d be Romney’s freaking VP mean if not that even more? I think people are kidding themselves about who Newt really is.

I am not happy to say it.


809 posted on 04/12/2012 9:55:33 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mojitojoe
McCain not only didn’t try, he basically campaigned FOR o bama. At this moment, I knew it was all over:

So Santorum backing out when he's winning under a false or misleading pretense to hand Romney the nomination shouldn't be that much of a stretch for you after all.

810 posted on 04/12/2012 9:56:45 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: volunbeer

See post #78 where Idaho_Cowboy explains it.

We do know a great deal about Romney by his actions as Governor if MA, the terrible judges he appointed, his creating RomneyCare, the model Ibama used for his planned takeover of the healthcare industry.

Romney is a Statist, same as Obama. Statism inevitably leads to tyranny,
Romney has no vision for America, except the establishment Statist vision.

Death by firing squad or death by a thousand cuts? The Constitution is still dead.


811 posted on 04/12/2012 9:56:59 AM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: GlockThe Vote

It would not be any different than Romney.
I can complain or bitch all I want, we do not have a conservative running because people capitulated to the Republican establishment and it pisses me off.


812 posted on 04/12/2012 9:57:57 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: swpa_mom

I concur!


813 posted on 04/12/2012 9:58:26 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: wagglebee

Not really. It’s just a guess by one person.


814 posted on 04/12/2012 10:00:36 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: swpa_mom

You are forgetful. Most of us *did* hold our noses in 2008. We supported Sarah Palin and John McWhatsHisName. How did that work for us? The GOP moved FARTHER LEFT! Romney is on par with Hillary Clinton -- they could be running mates, except she would have to be on the top of ticket as she is by far the more competent. If that is what passes for the new and improved GOP these days, count me and every other *genuine* conservative out. Don't blame us because McCain didn't win. He didn't win because he couldn't "out liberal" the liberal Obama. The liberal with a "D" behind his name beats the liberal with an "R" behind his name in every general election. Should Romney be the candidate, I expect no less from him. I'd bet on it.


815 posted on 04/12/2012 10:03:36 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: basil

I had decided the same thing. But my son convinced me that it is better to make a showing on a ballot than not. So, Constitution Party gains a vote on the basis of the name alone.


816 posted on 04/12/2012 10:03:56 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: humblegunner

Pardon my snickering at your reply, but that was so funny.
Bless his heart, he's stuck with having to resort to having to go to FR.

817 posted on 04/12/2012 10:03:56 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: volunbeer; mojitojoe; MacMattico; navydad; whiterhino; NoLibZone; Cincinna; getgo; Jim Robinson
Very well said, Volunteer. I will be taking the same route for the same reasons. I have five kids and now eight grandkids and more coming.

We must elect a strong majority in the Hosue and a majority in the Senate no matter who is elected President if we have any hope of slowing or turning this horrible slide away from our Constitutional Republic and its fundamental moral values.

If we do...and we must, and I believe we can...I do not believe Romney will be nearly the disaster that many on these boards envision. But that is my opinion and here is why.

He is a pol, and he has made very forthright and clearly understood commitments. This office will be the pinnacle of his career and he will want all eight years. To turn on these promises would be political suicide and I do not believe he will do it.

The legislature I mentioned will give him the proper acts and legisaltion to sign and he will sign it.

As such there is a very good chance in those circumstances that we will halt the slide and turn things around...our economy, the debt, foreign policy, facing up to China, the borders, supreme court justices, and with the right justices...abortion, etc., etc.

I know people who know the ROmney's and Mitt Romney is not Pro-abortion or Pro-homsexuality. He took very carefully worded positions when he ran of personally being against those things though promising to "support the law." I would not have even tried and played such games with such fundamental issues, but he did and they have resulted in this very understandable problem he has...and deserves.

HAving said all of that, we know we will get absolutely NONE OF THE POTENTIAL GOOD from the marxist ideolog, Obama. To the contrary, he will double down on every bit of his clearly leftist/marxists plans and continue to bankrupt and kill this Republic and its moral values so he can institute his command economy in place of the free market as he has planned all along.

Most people forget that Romney was elected governor in an overwhelmingly liberal state. RomneyCare is really MassCare because it was wht the people there wanted. It is quite possible, IMHO, that without Romney their plan would have even been even far worse...even though it is not acceptable as it is.

Romney said the things he did and took the positions he did to get elected. Otherwise he would not have been elected. To help understand him, look at the vetoes he made while Governor, particularly those that were immediately over-ridden by an 85% DNC legislature.

As to Justices, again, in Mass the executive has less control of the process there than the President of the United States. Anything hinting at conservative was simply rejected by that liberal legislature so he had to appoint the best he could in that environment. Is that good? No. But it is a pragmatic and realistic look at the situation he faced? Yes.

If we deliver a majority Senate, I expect we will see a completely different outcome and will get consevative, original constitutionalist justices. Again, we know there is NO CHANCE of that with Obama.

So, though it is clear Romney took liberal positions to get elected governor, and then to govern there, he did change and flip-flop on most of them when running for the GOP nomination. As he would have to. He is saying and supporting most of the right things now, and apparently he is very likely now to win the nomination. I do not like it...but there it is.

I will not do anything to help Obama in any way win this election. I will exert all of my energies to his defeat at the ballot box...and I believe we can. I am constrained to do this for my kids and grandkids so they can carry on the fight in the future. They may not have that chance with Obama in another four years. Plain and simple.

So I will support Romney if he is the nominee and I will do so like the survival of the Republic depends on it...because I believe it does...even though Romney is not anything close to my ideal candidate and i coming in fifth behind Palin, Cain, Santorum and Newt for me.

Each person has to decide for themselves, and it is a very personal and gut wrenching decision given the circumstances.

But that is my decision and the reasons for it.


AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

818 posted on 04/12/2012 10:04:45 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: svcw

It is what it is. Santorum and Newt both have huge problems in their resumes as far as that go as well.


819 posted on 04/12/2012 10:05:08 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Newt knew he will never be Romney’s VP selection, trust me on that at least, and he needs to quell the narrative, masterfully, that he is too fearsome, in order to be able to attract delegates, particularly northern delegates subjected to the media’s drum beat portrayal of him as a “loose cannon”.

“...be wiley as a serpent, but gentle as a dove”, comes to mind here.

What Newt is doing is to make the best of being placed in the locked down freezer. His every move and word going forward is soley calculated to delegates, who alone hold the key to our ONE. LAST. CHANCE.

Newt IS Galt.


820 posted on 04/12/2012 10:06:18 AM PDT by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt IS Galt.)
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To: CharacterCounts
Feel Better?

Actually....not really. This election year is gonna SUCK.

We're so screwed.
821 posted on 04/12/2012 10:07:59 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: manc

Hi Manc.... you said this:

“You can expect the paid staffers and supporters of Romney now be coming on here and saying” I wasn’t really for him but obama is worse and we have to unite”
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I am sure there are just as many obots on here saying this:

” I refuse to vote for Romney if he is the candidate. he’s worse than o bama. I will stay home and not vote.”

Axelrod and Marxists cheer, +1 more vote for o bama. One less fraudulent vote to manufacture.

You and I will have to agree to disagree. I hope in the end, romney is NOT the nominee, but in November whoever is on the ballot with an R beside their name, has my vote and everyone of my family members and friends are doing the same.


822 posted on 04/12/2012 10:09:47 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

i have to agree


823 posted on 04/12/2012 10:09:47 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: doc1019; Jim Robinson
Islam, Mormonism ... both false religions.

Perhaps if FR voters were aware of the close ties between islam and mormonism:

1 - A LDS perspective on Muhammed (LDS.org)
http://www.lds.org/ensign/2000/08/a-latter-day-saint-perspective-on-muhammad?lang=eng

2 - U.S. Muslims share friendship, similar values with Mormons (LA Times, published in 2008)
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/02/local/me-morlims2

3 - Mormonism and Islam: Commonality and Cooperation Between Abrahamic Faiths (March 10 & 11, 2011 - Utah Valley University)
http://www.uvu.edu/religiousstudies/mormonismandislam/

4 - Ask a Mormon: What do Mormons think of Muslims (March 2010 - MormonWoman.org)
http://mormonwoman.org/2010/03/15/ask-a-mormon-woman-what-do-mormons-think-about-islam/

5 - Mormons and Muslims break fast together (Ramadan 2010 - Deseret News)
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705386347/Mormons-Muslims-break-the-fast-in-Southern-California.html

6 - Islamic Translation Service (Brigham Young University)
http://meti.byu.edu/islamic.php

7 - Muslims attending BYU focus on similarities between Islam, LDS tenets (Deseret News - Dec 2009)
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353014/Muslims-attending-BYU-focus-on-similarities-between-Islam-LDS-tenets.html

...and were aware of this vow taken by all WORTHY mormon men, which Mitt has sworn to numerous times...

"You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the Law of Consecration as contained in the Doctrine and Covenants, in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion."

Law of Consecration

http://www.ldsendowment.org/terrestrial.html

Mormon’s covenant to put the church before ALL things.

...there would be fewer posts on FR disagreeing with Jim Robinson.

824 posted on 04/12/2012 10:12:09 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Mormon missionaries are Christianophobe bigots denigrating Christian faiths.)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist; Jim Robinson

The so-called "Buckley Rule" (named after the late William F. Buckley Jr.) seems appropriate here: One would be well advised to vote for the rightmost candidate sho has a reasonable chance of winning...

No longer applies. We are beyond selecting the "right most" candidate. We are now well into "least left" territory. Romney is a progressive liberal and less popular than Obama. He can't beat Obama because Obama is better at being liberal than he is -- the Romney supporters today (in my state Kenosha, Racine, and Milwaukee counties) will carry water for Obama in November. Romney has already lost because the support that has gotten him this far will not be loyal to him when he is pitted against their Obama. The GOPe is just not smart enough to realize it. One would be well advised not to jump on the losing team's bandwagon heading toward a foreign field for battle. Better to start grooming the battlefield on your own turf.


825 posted on 04/12/2012 10:12:38 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: swpa_mom

The McCain campaign did not fail because conservatives didn’t think he wasn’t conservative enough. The McCain campaign failed because the last few weeks he spent his time ENDORSING BARACK OBAMA!

Something like: “Barack Obama is a good man, will make a good President... we have nothing to fear from Barack Obama”

THAT is why McCain lost.


826 posted on 04/12/2012 10:15:09 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GlockThe Vote

It is what it is, because too many so-called
“conservatives” make it so.

Skipping over the rest of the primary, all the delegates left and all the rest of the states to hurry off and board the GOP-E trains leaving for Romneyaushwitz, before 1144, would be laughable, if were not so truly pathetic.

God gives us one day at a time to do with as we must.

Today is not Romney’s day.

Hold on, and lend a hand to the only conservative left standing, the only one among the whole mix who EVER ate Democrats for breakfast, and regularly!

WAKE UP!

Otherwise, get out of our way—your sobs are giving away our position.


827 posted on 04/12/2012 10:16:20 AM PDT by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt IS Galt.)
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To: Jim Robinson; RandallFlagg; gopno1; dayglored; kreitzer; doc1019; Squidpup; LachlanMinnesota; ...
Asked the question in an interview with local radio station WILM at the Hollywood Diner, Gingrich, one of three contenders left in the race for the GOP presidential nomination, said he wouldn’t be interested in joining likely nominee Romney’s Cabinet, but added—“not because I am opposed to Mitt.”

“Look, if the choice does end up being Romney versus [President] Obama, I can be very, very enthusiastic for Romney; that is a huge choice,” the former House speaker said. “But I had a very good life doing a lot of fun things: I’m a grandfather, I’ve got two grandchildren I want to spend time with, Callista has got me into being a really bad golfer. I would like to move up from bad to mediocre.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/gingrich-probably-won-t-take-romney-administration-job-20120412

WHAT? So we're supposed to send money to Newt as the principled conservative to pay off his campaign and then he's going to turn around and "enthusiastically" support Romney and go off and play golf?

828 posted on 04/12/2012 10:18:48 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Secret Agent Man
...another guy who has stated if he was asked he’d be Romney’s VP.
Still trying that route today, eh?

Let's go to the video.../Madden (7:00)
“No, I wouldn’t say no,” Gingrich told Fox News‘ Neil Cavuto Monday about what he’d do if Romney asked him to run as his vice president. “I can’t imagine him offering,” he added.
And be sure to consider the context.

829 posted on 04/12/2012 10:19:09 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Nobama_ever
Nobama, like you, I've worked on losing campaigns before and I've got a pretty good idea how you felt after Florida. I started to write something earlier this morning, deleted it, and now after coming back and seeing the responses to you, I believe something needs to be said.

Look, I understand hope is not a strategy. Without concrete plans, good intentions are useless. I really do realize how slim the chances are of winning at this point.

Also, unlike some conservatives, I understand the value of political experience, and that goes for both the candidates and the campaign staff. We can trade backgrounds but that's not important now; let's just say I think we have a lot in common with political history.

However, there comes a time that convictions trump math. The chances are slim, but a slim chance is better than no chance.

What counts is we've got a disaster coming down the road headed straight at us if Romney is nominated. I believe we're going to have another 2008 with McCain or 1996 with Dole, and possibly far worse because both of those men had decades of “time in the chair” dealing with conservative leaders in Congress. We knew what we were getting with Dole and McCain, and they had a solid record on at least some issues. As bad as McCain was, he didn't have a history of being “pro-choice” on abortion, supporting homosexual marriage, and appointing liberal judges in his own state.

I understand why a Gingrich campaign at this point may seem like tilting at windmills. I sincerely believe at this point, a Romney nomination nearly ensures Obama’s re-election, and the unlikely possibility of a Romney win means we will have a Republican who is more liberal than any Republican president we've had since at least Gerald Ford — except that being from Grand Rapids, I think even Ford was better than Romney because of Ford's anticommunism and support for the military.

I want to do whatever I can to stop Romney and Obama. The stakes really are that high.

Even if you need to do that as an unpaid volunteer, please rejoin the fight to deny Romney the nomination by supporting Gingrich. Political experience is valuable, and at this point even untrained “warm bodies” can be helpful.

I'm not a defeatist. Let's get back to the fight.

830 posted on 04/12/2012 10:20:39 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Jim Robinson
Romney will be the second term of Obama if he wins.

I see no issue with looking elsewhere for something to do with my vote.

831 posted on 04/12/2012 10:20:53 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: darrellmaurina; Jim Robinson

The best way to keep a Free Republic/Tea Party rejection of Romney from throwing the 2012 election to Barack Obama is to reject Romney now. Let’s get back to trying to make that happen.
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I agree!! I voted for Newt, he hasn’t bowed out yet, maybe Romney will implode. In November, I will vote for ABO.


832 posted on 04/12/2012 10:25:57 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: jersey117
Conservatives like Palin and DeMint chose not to get in the race... It is the voters in this primary who have decided the ultimate outcome.

Disappointing, frustrating and maddening as it is, that is the truth. The field was weak and the notRomney supports didn't unite. On the contrary, many spent the primary trashing each other.

The first constructive step to change this is being honest about how we got here.

833 posted on 04/12/2012 10:27:06 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: sam_paine; onyx; DJ MacWoW; RedMDer; trisham; TheOldLady; musicman; vox_freedom; JoeProBono; ...
I dunno .. if true, hard to not have doubts about the depth of his mission. But I'm just gonna keep praying. God's hand and unforeseen events CAN overcome our current speculations and anxieties.

IT'S NOT OVER 'TIL IT'S OVER!

834 posted on 04/12/2012 10:27:06 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Just do me a favor - along with everyone else staying home because of their purity tests - if Mittens loses by a tiny amount - please dont say a word when obama does all sorts of horrible stuff. At that point you have lost all credibility to complain about anything obama does.

You have to read the fine print. Romney didn't "win" my home state of Wisconsin. Romney overcame the conservative voters throughout the state by focusing on Kenosha, Racine, and Milwaukee counties -- the most liberal and populace counties in the state. These same counties will abandon him and support Obama in November. The liberal support that has carried Romney this far will erode because Romney can't "out liberal" Obama. Romney loses because he is a progressive liberal with an "R" behind his name. You blaming the conservatives when Romney loses is misguided. We held our noses and voted for McCain -- thanks to Sara Palin -- and he *still* lost. Without a genuine conservative (like Palin) to rally around, the cause is completely lost before the first vote is cast.


835 posted on 04/12/2012 10:27:13 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: sam_paine

Its called reality .....see my # 370


836 posted on 04/12/2012 10:27:32 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: sam_paine; Jim Robinson

Sam, from the same article, a little context:

“Gingrich said in light of a “disappointing and frustrating” finish in the Southern states where he had hoped to revive his flagging campaign, he’s banking on states like Delaware and North Carolina to hoist him into the position of conservative alternative to the more moderate Romney, a slot left vacant by Rick Santorum’s recent exit from the race.

“I think now that they’re down to two of us. I think you’re gonna see a lot more clear communication,” Gingrich said. “I’d like to give people the chance to see these are the two major alternatives to Obama and which one is the better alternative and which one, forgetting Obama for a second, which one would be better for America’s future.”


837 posted on 04/12/2012 10:27:52 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: sam_paine

Hey, goofball; nobody needs a Romneybot like you to interpret what Newt means when he says he “can” do this or that (note to Sam Pain in the a** - not “will” do) in response to some hypothetical question asked by some local radio personality.

I suggest you give some money to a local Tea-Party candidate and begone to the planet Kolob.


838 posted on 04/12/2012 10:28:26 AM PDT by ngat
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To: Longbow1969
. Willard's history of court appointments is terrible, but he would be beholden to the national Republican party as President

lol. Actually he would be the LEADER of the national Republican Party, which would be more liberal than the Democrats of 20 years ago.

839 posted on 04/12/2012 10:28:46 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Blackyce

I concur.


840 posted on 04/12/2012 10:29:56 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Jeff Head
I know people who know the ROmney's and Mitt Romney is not Pro-abortion or Pro-homosexuality.

Jeff, either you are misrepresenting what they said or they have lied to you.

Romney promotes abortion by his actions, his donations to PP, his statements "I have always been pro-choice", his $50 or free abortions, and a whole number of other things.

Romney promotes homosexuality by evidenced in his record.

Romney is a liberal no different than any other liberal.

841 posted on 04/12/2012 10:30:06 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

This has now reached “Lynch Mob” proportions.
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It has and it’s very sad.


842 posted on 04/12/2012 10:33:02 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump to 255


843 posted on 04/12/2012 10:33:09 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Mormon missionaries are Christianophobe bigots denigrating Christian faiths.)
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To: RitaOK

I am voting for Ron Paul in the NYS primary on the 24th.

Myth is my least choice and I know he probably will be bad as bushes’ second term was.

HOWEVER - as bad as that was - it still is not as bad as ghettobama.

Another term of this marxist thug tyrant and most of us small business people simply will not survive!


844 posted on 04/12/2012 10:33:12 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: sam_paine
Have you got the transcript? I would like to see his comments in context instead of in snippets.

I note with some amusement his choice of words in your snippet...I can be...not I will be.

845 posted on 04/12/2012 10:33:20 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Would that be the same Buckley who ran a third party campaign for NYC Mayor against a RINO?

He’s your model for supporting Romney??


846 posted on 04/12/2012 10:34:17 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: RitaOK
NOT mounting a challenge to Romney with the one conservative left standing—Newt!

Is he really left "standing"? He has no money. He even came in behind Ron Paul in a few states. The only reason he claims to be left standing is because over the weekend he underhandedly stated that Romney is going to be the nominee and made it sound like he wasn't competing any longer. Then when Rick to got out, he pounced and tried to re-start his campaign. Not very statesman-like. IMO

847 posted on 04/12/2012 10:35:43 AM PDT by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: ngat
...he says he “can” do this or that (note to Sam Pain in the a** - not “will” do)...
I see you noted that as well. LOL
848 posted on 04/12/2012 10:36:03 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: LibFreeUSA

You must be blind?

Nobody is callin for purity. Romney gets a 0 on the purity scale. We just want someone who is right of center.

Growth of what movement?? RINOism? Socialism? I would love to hinder the growth of those movements.


849 posted on 04/12/2012 10:36:37 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: philman_36

He would not say no.

Everyone here is saying absolutely no, to voting for Romney, which I have no problem with. If you will never vote for the guy, surely as a conservative you’d not WORK or even consider WORKING FOR a guy you say you’d never VOTE for. It would not be hard to say “I’d never work for him” if you’d never vote for him.

Yet Newt says he would not say no if asked. Doesn’t matter if he thinks he would or wouldn’t be asked.

How can you vote for a guy who is supposedly conservative who says he wouldn’t say no to being VP of the guy you say as a conservative you will never vote for? How can Newt, by your standard, even consider it acceptable to be Romney’s VP if he is really a conservative and should find it impossible to even cast a vote for Romney?


850 posted on 04/12/2012 10:37:19 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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