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Zimmerman to face judge; Trayvon's mom says 'shooting was accident'
ky3.com ^ | 4/12/2012 | Arelis R. Hernández

Posted on 04/12/2012 5:48:37 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

George Zimmerman woke up in a Seminole County jail cell this morning as the mother of Trayvon Martin, the teen he killed, revealed on national television that she thinks the shooting was an accident.

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Asked what she would like to ask to Zimmerman, Trayvon's mother, Sybrina Fulton, told The Today Show that she wants an apology from him.

"I believe it was an accident. I believe it just got out of control and he couldn't turn the clock back," Fulton said, revealing her opinion on what happened the night her 17-year-old son was shot to death. "I would ask him, did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager and that he did not have a weapon."

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1 posted on 04/12/2012 5:48:40 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t believe she would have said this without coaching by the race haters and attorneys surrounding her.

If he did admit it was accidental then what would the true repercussions be? No way she is doing this out of kindness to give him a way out, their must be something in it for them.


2 posted on 04/12/2012 5:52:21 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: RoosterRedux

In other words, she just realized that once this goes to trial Zimmerman’s lawyer will be investigating Trayvon’s history. I’ll bet money that he is not the squeaky clean kid they are portraying and she knows this is about to blow up in their face. The memory of her son will be crushed as the truth is exposed.

This is another example of the law of unintended consequences. The got what they asked for... and now it has a life of it’s own.


3 posted on 04/12/2012 5:53:49 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Abathar

I too am suspicious of her motives. But if I were attorney for her family (and I am not an attorney), I would advise her to button it.


4 posted on 04/12/2012 5:54:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Abathar
I think this means that Sharpton et al know or have been told by reliable sources that Trayon DID attack Zimmerman that night. Now that there will be a trial, this will come out.
5 posted on 04/12/2012 5:54:37 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: RoosterRedux

Zimmerman is going down, he’ll be offered up and hung. Poor stupid bastard should have left the country when he could. I hope Florida burns to the ground and is washed out to see and drowned.


6 posted on 04/12/2012 5:55:03 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: RoosterRedux

You know I heard her say that and I thought....”Does she know what she just said??”. If you notice, Ann Curry was also kind of flustered after that.....I don’t think she meant to say that...


7 posted on 04/12/2012 5:56:12 AM PDT by Fawn (This sight it toooooo sloooooowwwwww)
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To: utahagen
-- I think this means that Sharpton et al know or have been told by reliable sources that Trayon DID attack Zimmerman that night. Now that there will be a trial, this will come out. --

Trial or not, it's coming out. The spotlight will swivel from being focused on Zimmerman, to being focused on Martin. That's the way the law always works. Martin's side has told it's story. Now it has to sit down and listen while the other side has a rebuttal.

8 posted on 04/12/2012 5:57:09 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RoosterRedux
George Zimmerman woke up in a Seminole County jail cell this morning as the mother of Trayvon Martin

Wow, that must have surprised him. :-)

9 posted on 04/12/2012 5:57:24 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: Fawn

“It was an accident” is a perfect defense to a charge of murder. If it was an accident, it was not murder. Case dismissed.


10 posted on 04/12/2012 5:58:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RoosterRedux

THis statement is all about setting up the Civil trial when the criminal case is dismissed as being self-defense or Zimmerman is found not guilty.

They will they file suit against Zimmerman (shooter), his family (statements), the Neighborhood association/property owners (not securing property/neighborhood wathc vigilante), the City of Sanford (failure to respond and protect) and the State of Florida (Stand your Ground allowing Zimmerman to have gun) for the “Accidental Death” of their son.


11 posted on 04/12/2012 5:58:19 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Dutch Boy

You know, I think that Treyvon was one of the theives in the neighborhood. Jewelry and screwdriver in his backpack, selling drugs insinuated on his facebook page....BUT— this has nothing to do with the incident.


12 posted on 04/12/2012 5:58:46 AM PDT by Fawn (This sight it toooooo sloooooowwwwww)
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To: utahagen

Of course they know Martin attacked first and with no provocation other than being “disrespected” because he was followed and asked what he was doing.
You know how that goes...you show respect or else.


13 posted on 04/12/2012 5:58:46 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: No One Special

lol


14 posted on 04/12/2012 5:59:50 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: RoosterRedux
..did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager and that he did not have a weapon."

Is she kidding? A teenager? Does she know the stats? Just about ever week a teen is arrested for a shooting.

15 posted on 04/12/2012 6:00:02 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between lose and loose.)
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To: Cboldt

Didn’t know that....wow. But, Zimmermans already been portraying this as self-defense....don’t think he can change that now....?


16 posted on 04/12/2012 6:00:46 AM PDT by Fawn (This sight it toooooo sloooooowwwwww)
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To: RoosterRedux

:: “I would ask him, did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager and that he did not have a weapon.” ::

If he would answer this and apologize to TM’s mother’s satisfaction, he will be admitting to manslaughter. It’s a manipulation ploy by her lawyers.


17 posted on 04/12/2012 6:01:07 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: commish
I think Zimmerman will be found to have immunity from trial.

The only caveat is evidence that we have not yet seen, that really cuts against him.

If the judge finds that Zimmerman was more likely than not acting in the course of reasonable fear for his life or serious injury, then there will no NO trials. No accidental death (wrongful death is what the civil claim would be), no murder, no manslaughter, nothing.

18 posted on 04/12/2012 6:01:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RoosterRedux
I think the New Black KKK saddled the wrong horse.

They thought they had a Whitey to lynch and a sledge hammer to pound through some draconian federal gun control laws, but Zimmerman is Hispanic, and Trayvon was gangster wannabe who died in the process of earning his bones.

This thing may not play out the way they wanted at all.

19 posted on 04/12/2012 6:01:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“”I believe it was an accident.”

What? You dont want to go to court to try to get your “justice” from this racist KKK Gestapo Grand Wizard?


20 posted on 04/12/2012 6:01:24 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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To: Rich21IE

Hey, not ALL of Florida. Leave the part above Orlando.


21 posted on 04/12/2012 6:02:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: commish

Eh...I don’t think so. She probably knows her son attacked, they know he’s no angel.


22 posted on 04/12/2012 6:02:56 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: Dutch Boy
This is another example of the law of unintended consequences. The got what they asked for... and now it has a life of it’s own.

NBC is being very protective of the identity of whoever edited that 911 tape. Imagine for a moment what would happen if it turned out to be a black person.

23 posted on 04/12/2012 6:03:14 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Abathar

Damage control after the story got out that she had tried to trademark Trayvon’s name.


24 posted on 04/12/2012 6:06:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RoosterRedux

I think the real question she should ask him is, did my son attack you..what difference does it make if he was 17, or unarmed..what good is a concealed weapons permit if you have to wait until someone pulls a gun on you to pull your, a losing battle...

Attack someone, all options open to dispose of the thug...


25 posted on 04/12/2012 6:06:41 AM PDT by aces
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To: No One Special

OK....


26 posted on 04/12/2012 6:06:56 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The Obama orchestrators of this charade saw the mug shot with Zim looking very BROWN and HISPANIC and said, “Oh, sh*t”


27 posted on 04/12/2012 6:07:12 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: RoosterRedux

Wow, just, wow! She is going to be in big trouble with the racial agitators who have relentlessly promoted the narrative that: he was hunted down like a dog, he was killed for walking while black in a gated community, etc.


28 posted on 04/12/2012 6:07:25 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Still not a very wise strategy. I think she actually spoke from her heart what she honestly feels. There’s really no benefit in them making Zimmerman more sympathetic at this point. By stating he had no intention to hurt her son , that it was just an accident as they tasseled on the ground, takes all the race hustlers wind out of their sails.


29 posted on 04/12/2012 6:08:07 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: RoosterRedux; xzins

Maybe Ms. Fulton knows her son was a wayward teen and actually feels a bit of guilt over the firestorm she has created and the fact that Zimmerman has been railroaded into a murder charge.

My more cynical side however tells me that her Civil attorney has told her that if Zimmerman is convicted of murder then her lawsuit against the home owners association will go down in flames. She NEEDS for this to have been an accident. She needs for this to be negligence. There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow if Jorge is convicted of murder.


30 posted on 04/12/2012 6:08:40 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Dutch Boy
In other words, she just realized that once this goes to trial Zimmerman’s lawyer will be investigating Trayvon’s history. I’ll bet money that he is not the squeaky clean kid they are portraying and she knows this is about to blow up in their face. The memory of her son will be crushed as the truth is exposed.

Bingo.

31 posted on 04/12/2012 6:09:23 AM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: Cboldt

Very likely it will come out that Trayvon was going for Zims gun, there was a struggle and that is when Trayvon was shot. During the struggle for the gun there could have been a time when Trayvon had a hold of it but it was pointing at him. He may have actually “accidentally” pulled the trigger and shot himself. If his fingerprints are on the gun, its all over for the prosecution.


32 posted on 04/12/2012 6:10:04 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Dutch Boy
In other words, she just realized that once this goes to trial Zimmerman’s lawyer will be investigating Trayvon’s history. I’ll bet money that he is not the squeaky clean kid they are portraying and she knows this is about to blow up in their face. The memory of her son will be crushed as the truth is exposed.

Not only that, there's the issue of another Florida "hanging Chad".

Little Chad was hanging around back at the townhouse, 70 yards from where young tough Trayvon got dusted, waiting for his Skittles. That's about a half-wedge, for golf fans, and a throw from short center field to the plate, for baseball fans.

Of course, little Chad didn't notice a thing that night. Nor did Chad or Trayvon's adults notice a thing the next day when Jorge Zimmerman brought the cops back and re-enacted the whole thing.

Can I get a WTF?

33 posted on 04/12/2012 6:10:37 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

She did?

It’s all about the Benjamins now...


34 posted on 04/12/2012 6:11:00 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: RoosterRedux
"I would ask him, did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager and that he did not have a weapon."

It appears he could not have known. Her son never gave him the opportunity to find out. When Zimmerman approached him, rather than stop and talk with him as civilized people are wont to do, he ran like a common criminal who'd been caught where he wasn't supposed to be.

35 posted on 04/12/2012 6:11:34 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Fawn
-- Zimmermans already been portraying this as self-defense....don't think he can change that now....? --

He doesn't want to and won't deviate from the justified use of deadly force in self-defense. Trayvon's mother's remark is notable for its humor value - to the extent one finds humor in thuggish behavior ending in the unfortunate need to resort to deadly force.

36 posted on 04/12/2012 6:11:42 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: tacticalogic

Someone like Lin Wood (who represented Richard Jewell) will represent Zimmerman in a defamation suit against NBC after this trial is over and it will all come out.


37 posted on 04/12/2012 6:12:52 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: P-Marlowe

I don’t get what you mean. How will her lawsuit against the HOA go down in flames if it’s murder but not involuntary manslaughter (accident)?
Either way they’ll sue claiming the HOA had someone “unstable” person being watchman of the community. GZ wasn’t even on duty anyway.


38 posted on 04/12/2012 6:13:29 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: RoosterRedux

This is BS. Plain and simple. That thug attacked him. End of story.


39 posted on 04/12/2012 6:15:57 AM PDT by Pit1 (Obozo need to go back from where he came from and that's not Chicago.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Someone read her the first few sections of a liability insurance policy.


40 posted on 04/12/2012 6:16:27 AM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Dutch Boy
Here's what I now believe... the prosecutor/ state has met with the Martin family, sharing all they know of the evidence, and of course they have truthful testimony from Zimmerman by way of a lie detector assisted confession. That evidence shows that Trayvon was the aggressor, was belligerent, and did threaten the life and limb of Z, and likely shows there was struggle for the gun.

Background evidence:

I believe a deal has been worked out between the Martin family, the prosecutor and Z. Have you noticed that the mother has recently said, that what she really wanted was an arrest of Z... not that she was pushing for a guilty verdict regardless of guilt. They all know now what went down, and they all know the propensity of T pushing the envelope, testing out his growing taste for thuggish behavior in newly actualized adult, brutish body.

Z likely is remorseful, and wishes things had not gone down the way they did, but still, he is left with the proposition, that it was either himself or T that would die that night, and justifiable homicide is everybody's conclusion. T's family knows, they knew the path he was choosing, they knew if he didn't get back to the straight and narrow, he would either wind up dead or going to jail for killing someone, they knew.

41 posted on 04/12/2012 6:21:48 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Crawdad

Naw....she found out she could still file a civil suit and that the criminal suit would give her “0”.


42 posted on 04/12/2012 6:22:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Dutch Boy

To: RoosterRedux

In other words, she just realized that once this goes to trial Zimmerman’s lawyer will be investigating Trayvon’s history. I’ll bet money that he is not the squeaky clean kid they are portraying and she knows this is about to blow up in their face. The memory of her son will be crushed as the truth is exposed.

This is another example of the law of unintended consequences. The got what they asked for... and now it has a life of it’s own.


I really, really hope you are right. But with that being said, I think it’s gone to far for the race baiter’s. Their only saving strategy is to just shut up and hope something new comes up on the endless MSM news-cycle and distracts everyone from this incident.


43 posted on 04/12/2012 6:23:19 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: P-Marlowe; RoosterRedux

Also, P-M, it appears the prosecutor has over-charged on this one. If I understood a radio interview I heard yesterday correctly, in Florida 2d degree means they have to prove depraved indifference.

I simply don’t see how that can be done. The only thing they have is that he was following the kid for a bit. And as a neighborhood watch participant on duty, that was his job.

His injuries and eyewitnesses all prove there was a struggle with Jorge getting the worst of it. No depraved indifference there, either.


44 posted on 04/12/2012 6:24:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: dps.inspect

No....they know the people who saw Tray beating the sh** out of Zimmerman....and she ain’t gonna lie for nobody.


45 posted on 04/12/2012 6:24:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RoosterRedux

So now they can call her an uncle Tom. Or an auntie tom. Or whatever.


46 posted on 04/12/2012 6:25:09 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I think the word has quietly gone out that if the shooting is called “an accident”, the race-baiters can still agitate; but there is such damning evidence, and witnesses, that Martin attacked Zimmerman that any trial will not only find that Zimmerman acted in self-defense, but importantly, that Martin *attacked* Zimmerman first.

This strips Martin of any “martyr” designation, any more than any other typical “Son of Obama”, who attacks an innocent person (usually a black person). And this would kill dead the money-raising efforts of the race-baiters.


47 posted on 04/12/2012 6:26:05 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: Dutch Boy

...”In other words, she just realized that once this goes to trial Zimmerman’s lawyer will be investigating Trayvon’s history. I’ll bet money that he is not the squeaky clean kid they are portraying and she knows this is about to blow up in their face. The memory of her son will be crushed as the truth is exposed.

This is another example of the law of unintended consequences. The got what they asked for... and now it has a life of it’s own”...

The world deserves to know Travon’s history in the light of the vicious hate which has been directed towards Mr. Zimmerman from the start without having any solid information about what happened. My understanding is that two witnesses saw Travon on top of Zimmerman bashing his head into the sidewalk. To find out whether these things are true, a trial is needed so that the truth can come out. In any case, the media and the Black Panthers took the law into their hands and it looks like they are achieving their goals.


48 posted on 04/12/2012 6:26:52 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Dutch Boy

...”In other words, she just realized that once this goes to trial Zimmerman’s lawyer will be investigating Trayvon’s history. I’ll bet money that he is not the squeaky clean kid they are portraying and she knows this is about to blow up in their face. The memory of her son will be crushed as the truth is exposed.

This is another example of the law of unintended consequences. The got what they asked for... and now it has a life of it’s own”...

The world deserves to know Travon’s history in the light of the vicious hate which has been directed towards Mr. Zimmerman from the start without having any solid information about what happened. My understanding is that two witnesses saw Travon on top of Zimmerman bashing his head into the sidewalk. To find out whether these things are true, a trial is needed so that the truth can come out. In any case, the media and the Black Panthers took the law into their hands and it looks like they are achieving their goals.


49 posted on 04/12/2012 6:26:52 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Abathar
If he did admit it was accidental then what would the true repercussions be?

If it was an accident, she might have better chances of a settlement from an insurance company.

50 posted on 04/12/2012 6:27:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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