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N Korea rocket launch reportedly fails
LA Times ^ | April 12, 2012 | 4:22 pm | staff

Posted on 04/12/2012 4:42:54 PM PDT by gandalftb

North Korea launched a three-stage rocket from a missile base near the west coast city of Sinuiju today, claiming that it was carrying a weather satellite of purely civilian use.

Its projected trajectory was almost due south on a course 150 miles east of Shanghai. The second stage of the rock was to splash down east of the Philippines, which prompted Manila to cancel northbound flights as a precaution.

Initial network news reports said the rocket failed during flight.

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KEYWORDS: epicfail; failepicfail; japan; northkorea; rocket; southkorea
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To: gandalftb

Did it have any Solanda solar panels on it?


51 posted on 04/12/2012 6:09:27 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: gandalftb
Little has been said about “losing face”, these nork gooks are really into that, so solly charlie you tell “no can kum too” that you couldn’t get your missile up so chew on that you little a$$hole!
52 posted on 04/12/2012 6:10:20 PM PDT by Gertie
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To: gandalftb

It slashed down near the Glomar Explorer almost striking the ship!


53 posted on 04/12/2012 6:21:15 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: expat2

You just have to suspect where all those Commodore 64’s ended up. Maybe that’s why the garbage companies in the US are requiring us to recycle e-waste; it’s an upgrade in their supply chain.


54 posted on 04/12/2012 6:21:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: gandalftb

"It failed? Someone is going to die for this."

What do you want to bet they tell the masses that it succeeded? With complete isolation from the outside world, they would have no way of knowing the difference. They want to appear strong to the people and able to take on the "evil imperialist Americans", so it's good propaganda to tell them they succeeded.

55 posted on 04/12/2012 6:24:40 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Rick Santorum For President (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N89LGhm-Ztc))
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To: Pinkbell

What’s interesting is that the new nork leader invited all kinds of media into his kingdom to witness the launch.
Usually, they don’t allow any media in case of a failure such as this. Don’t want the possibility of losing face.

ooops.


56 posted on 04/12/2012 6:27:57 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Carry_Okie

If you still have a Com 64, you should hold on to it — it could be quite valuable in a few decades. The Intel 4004 was a 4-bit microprocessor.


57 posted on 04/12/2012 6:32:23 PM PDT by expat2
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To: gandalftb
LOL. What a way to ruin grampa’s birthday! All the more reason to offset this fiasco with the 3rd nuclear test. The boy has bad karma. Every major initiative he pushed so far failed. The breakup of Kim Dynasty is getting closer. We may even see it before the end of this year. Fingers crossed.
58 posted on 04/12/2012 6:33:32 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: gandalftb

The NorKo commies are unlucky that Clinton is not the prez now. He would have given them the missile technology they need.


59 posted on 04/12/2012 6:34:20 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: gandalftb
Apparently first and second stages failed to separate according to S. Korean media. Rocket broke up in pieces, and SK military is trying to recover the wreckage.
60 posted on 04/12/2012 6:36:17 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: doug from upland; gandalftb

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>> “The NorKo commies are unlucky that Clinton is not the prez now.” <<

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Its OK, O’Bummer will be happy to deal in his second term.
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61 posted on 04/12/2012 6:37:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Pinkbell

Face like a pancake.


62 posted on 04/12/2012 6:40:07 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Dengar01

Midnight Basketball - give them an NBA franchise to keep them busy.


63 posted on 04/12/2012 6:42:02 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: gandalftb
The second stage of the rock was to splash down east of the Philippines...

Keep it simple, stupid.

64 posted on 04/12/2012 6:43:15 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: expat2
The Intel 4004 was a 4-bit microprocessor.

Yup, pre-8080.

65 posted on 04/12/2012 6:43:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

SEAL team?


66 posted on 04/12/2012 6:44:03 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: TigerLikesRooster
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2012/04/13/56/0301000000AEN20120413001254315F.HTML

(6th LD) N. Korea's long-range rocket crashes shortly after takeoff

SEOUL, April 13 (Yonhap) — North Korea defiantly fired off a long-range rocket Friday, but the three-stage craft crashed in pieces into the sea shortly after takeoff, South Korean officials said.

The launch is expected to draw international condemnation as it violated a U.N. resolution that bans the communist nation from any ballistic missile activity that can be used to develop missiles carrying nuclear weapons.

The Unha-3 rocket took off from the Tongchang-ri launch site at 7:39 a.m., but appears to have separated into several pieces before crashing into the sea a few minutes after takeoff, Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok said.

“South Korean and U.S. intelligence authorities believe North Korea's missile launch ended in failure,” Kim said without providing further specifics, including how far the three-stage rocket traveled. “We will make an announcement later after making final confirmation.”

Military sources said the rocket appears to have landed in waters about 190 to 200 kilometers off South Korea's western port city of Gunsan, without the separation of its first and second stages.

Naval ships tracked the rocket's flight path, they said.

Japan's NHK reported that the North's rocket ascended about 400,000 feet (120 kilometers) above ground before being separated into four pieces and then crashing. The report cited a Japanese defense ministry official.

The North had said it would launch the rocket between April 12 and 16 to put what it claimed to be a satellite into orbit to mark the 100th birthday celebrations for Kim Il-sung, the country's late founder and grandfather of current leader Kim Jong-un.

South Korea, the United States and other regional powers urged Pyongyang to call off the launch, denouncing it as a pretext to disguise a long-range missile test, banned under a U.N. Security Council resolution.

Foreign news reports said the U.N. Security Council will meet Friday to discuss the launch.

Calling the rocket no different from a long-range missile, South Korea condemned the launch as a “provocative act” that threatens peace and security in Northeast Asia and constitutes a clear violation of the U.N. Security Council resolution.

“North Korea fired a de-facto long-range missile which it claims carried a so-called working satellite at 7:39 a.m. today, but it failed,” Foreign Minister Kim Sung-hwan said, reading a government statement after President Lee Myung-bak held an emergency meeting with security ministers.

“Our government strongly condemns North Korea going ahead with the launch in disregard of the united calls from the international community that the launch plan be scrapped,” Kim said. “North Korea should take due responsibility for this.”

South Korea wants the U.N. Security Council to punish the North, officials said.

“Regardless of its success or failure, we urge the U.N. Security Council to take action against North Korea's rocket launch,” a senior official at Seoul's foreign ministry said, on condition of anonymity.

A defense committee of South Korea's National Assembly will also hold an emergency meeting at 3 p.m. Friday to discuss the launch, a committee official said.

“After North Korea launched its long-range rocket, the defense committee was urgently convened,” the official told Yonhap News Agency by phone.

In Washington, the White House was preparing to issue a formal response to the launch.

Officials at both the State Department and the Defense Department said they have nothing to say for now regarding reports of the North's rocket launch. The White House is in charge of releasing the initial response of the U.S. administration, the source told Yonhap News Agency.

North Korea announced the rocket launch plan just weeks after it reached a deal with the United States under which it agreed to put a moratorium on missile and nuclear tests and halt uranium enrichment in exchange for American food aid.

Washington officials have warned Pyongyang that a rocket launch would be a dealbreaker, casting further clouds over the prospects of resuming the long-stalled six-party talks aimed at ending Pyongyang's nuclear programs.

Experts in Washington said the launch has effectively suspended negotiations, perhaps for good.

“It is unfortunate that North Korea has decided to go ahead with this launch,” Gordon Flake, executive director of the Maureen and Mike Mansfield Foundation told Yonhap News Agency. “With this action, the pathway back to negotiations has been effectively closed down, and the prospects for increased tension and crisis have increased dramatically.”

Marcus Noland, a senior researcher at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, said it was unfortunate the North “decided to defy the U.N. Security Council and world opinion in engaging in this provocative act.”

“The good news is that the launch may have been unsuccessful if it did indeed malfunction before completing its intended mission,” he said, adding that the failure proved North Korean missiles may be unreliable and hence may not pose an immediate threat.

“North Korea's ability to gain useful data and experience from this test may not be so great if the missile malfunctioned,” he said.

The North's nuclear and missile programs have long been a regional security concern. The country is believed to have advanced ballistic missile technology, though it is still not clear whether it has mastered the technology to put a nuclear warhead on a missile.

67 posted on 04/12/2012 6:45:11 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: gandalftb
Some of you will be singing with me tonight.
68 posted on 04/12/2012 6:46:01 PM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue.")
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To: Pinkbell
He actually will order executions. Probably some of the officials briefing international reporters just the other day, strutting around cock of the walk style, talking about their Great Leader, are themselves going to be either put in a camp, or sent up before a firing squad in the next few days.

What an absolute international humiliation.

Boy I sure will like to hear their bullshit spin which they are constructing as they speak; how they can go out and brief the international press corps this morning from now, with a straight face, when they know a number of them are launch veterans and aerospace journalists (professionals). My guess? They will skedaddle them out of the country ASAP. What I DO hope they do not do is blame it on the South or USA that it was somehow shot down in an aggressive act. Well, it's First Secretary Fat Boy's (28 years old) time to show what he is made of, on the world stage.

69 posted on 04/12/2012 6:47:14 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Oh, well. SEE YOU IN THE CAMPS. (Hope your forearm tatoo doesnt hurt too much)....)
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To: Gertie

I’d hazard that Kim Jong-Un will have all but his most critical scientists shot for this. Their families will also be sent to their death camps.

And their press will declare the launch a great success and play a “live broadcast” on their news.


70 posted on 04/12/2012 6:47:14 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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71 posted on 04/12/2012 6:47:31 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: gandalftb

72 posted on 04/12/2012 6:48:35 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: grey_whiskers

>> “Just wondering if Israel had ought to do with this?” <<

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Israel does business with the Norks.


73 posted on 04/12/2012 6:49:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Exit148
I wonder what will happen to the scientists involved?

They are probably en route to one of North Korea's pleasant gulags vacation resorts, where they will be allowed to engage in healthful gardening activities for the remainders of their short happy lives.

Here is my attempt to analyze what happened and the consequences.

74 posted on 04/12/2012 6:49:33 PM PDT by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: gandalftb

Where’s the video of the guy demonstrating his home-made “sparkler”?


75 posted on 04/12/2012 6:52:17 PM PDT by pabianice (ame with)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Good post, that answers a lot of questions, the flash was seen above and W of the DMZ.

They’ve been fueling for almost two weeks and I was really doubting the 15th that I had earlier posted on.

Once the tanks are topped off they have about 24 hours to light it off.

Good possibility there was a problem with the liquid fuel recirculation and coolinhg pumps, if so they would have to light within hours or watch it explode on the pad...with all those journalists around.

Something went way wrong with their timing.


76 posted on 04/12/2012 6:56:10 PM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This just in, haven’t plotted it yet:

Debris fell into the Yellow Sea at 124E 36N, about 5 minutes after launch.


77 posted on 04/12/2012 6:58:52 PM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: USAF80

The workers were probably so hungry they ate the wiring thinking it was spaghetti.


78 posted on 04/12/2012 7:02:48 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Perfect. I hope Tubby does rubout the rocket scientist before they do a debrief or ‘lessons learned’ and shortout the learning curve back to the start.


79 posted on 04/12/2012 7:04:34 PM PDT by AU72
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To: gandalftb

That’s roughly where the first stage was to land. Could be the 2nd stage didn’t light.

I didn’t see any control surfaces (fins) on the 3rd stage. Since it is very unlikely that they have developed a gimbaled (able to aim) solid fuel nozzle, the third stage was likely liquid fuel.

That would be a step backwards from the last launch and indicates this was a hurried launch.


80 posted on 04/12/2012 7:06:23 PM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb

When I first heard this news- I couldn’t wait to come here and see the funny things you guys had posted. I was NOT disappointed.

Thanks for the laughs folks. I needed it today.

Mazel tov N. Korea-

The Jew


81 posted on 04/12/2012 7:07:50 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (Am I'm the ONLY Conservative Jew in America? What's wrong with you other schmucks?)
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To: snowsislander
しかたがない、金さん。

It can't be helped, Mr. Gold?

82 posted on 04/12/2012 7:08:32 PM PDT by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: gandalftb; TigerLikesRooster

Correction:

NORAD is calling the splashdown at 165 km west of Seoul, that is well off the planned flight path. Confirms my earlier report that the flash was seen due west of the DMZ.


83 posted on 04/12/2012 7:10:43 PM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb
So there is a truth to the SK report that NK pushed a self-destruct button because rocket veered way off course. 165km to the West of Seoul? The rocket could have hit Shanghai. Imagine it actually happened. What a catastrophe it could have been.
84 posted on 04/12/2012 7:17:10 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Carry_Okie

Great vid!


85 posted on 04/12/2012 7:22:24 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Unconfirmed:

At 151 km altitude the single track became 4 tracks and an explosion, then 20 tracks at splashdown.

I agree with you that is was an intended abort as it was way off track.


86 posted on 04/12/2012 7:37:04 PM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb
They dragged me away from my Pong game FOR THIS??


87 posted on 04/12/2012 7:41:01 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well - Ogletree, Sharpton, Williams, Jackson)
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To: gandalftb

I am hopeful that something like STUXNET messed up the rocket’s guidance system.:-)


88 posted on 04/12/2012 7:42:59 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: gandalftb

Time to hire Sarah Jessica Parker...on second thought maybe not. She does not have a face that would launch much.

89 posted on 04/12/2012 7:46:30 PM PDT by xp38
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To: gandalftb

Can’t someone paint a bulls eye on Nancy Pelosi’s house in San Francisco with a taunting sign in Korean..I bet you can’t hit this.


90 posted on 04/12/2012 8:04:43 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: gandalftb

The only thing that I would have found more pleasing than the rocket’s failure would have been its (apparent) success—followed, immediately, by its being shot down by South Korea or Japan...


91 posted on 04/12/2012 8:19:45 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Axis of Evil ping. Thanks gandalftb.


92 posted on 04/12/2012 8:26:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: grey_whiskers

Ah, Iran bought 3 Chinese ICBMs. Where do you think NKorea got their missile tech from? China covertly sells to NK. NK sells to Iran. China gets plausible deniability. All evil dictators end up happy.

If Iran is indeed buying directly from China, all it means is the ChiComs are getting more brazen about things.


93 posted on 04/12/2012 8:29:30 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Support hate crime laws: Because some victims are more equal than others.)
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To: SunkenCiv; TigerLikesRooster; AdmSmith

DPRK just announced a satellite launch failure. They know they’re caught, amazing that they aren’t spinning it.


94 posted on 04/12/2012 8:30:15 PM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb
It blowed up real good!"


95 posted on 04/12/2012 8:36:10 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: gandalftb

96 posted on 04/12/2012 8:41:14 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Snickering Hound

“Hold meh beer and watch this”


97 posted on 04/12/2012 8:42:55 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: gandalftb

Can’t do it any other way. They invited so many journalists. Whoever proposed this media stunt-turned-fiasco is now in deep trouble.


98 posted on 04/12/2012 8:43:06 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: All

Well, we certainly had our share of mishaps early on ...

The classic came to be known as the “4-Inch Launch” ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O4V7JfeTSU


99 posted on 04/12/2012 8:43:18 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: gandalftb
Per Chosun Ilbo:


100 posted on 04/12/2012 8:45:32 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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