Skip to comments.Unsolved Mysteries: Why Were Conservatives So Enamored of Rick Santorum?
Posted on 04/13/2012 10:18:18 AM PDT by Josh Painter
Rick Santorum dropped out of the race for the Republican presidential nomination on Tuesday. Almost to a column, editorial and news account, the analysis centered on Santorums somewhat successful capture of conservative voters.
And there lies the mystery. How could a man seemingly so opposite of conservative have entranced so many voters who label themselves just that?
The easy answer is that as someone who made his religion such a prominent part of his campaign strategy... religious types who tend toward conservatism perhaps felt theyd found their man.
Indeed, if we ignore for a moment how very anti-conservative it is for any candidate to coddle certain commercial sectors, the simple truth is that to the extent that manufacturing jobs were ever glorious (a big reach on its own considering the proud history of sons and daughters of factory workers moving away from manufacturing locales), the very investors whose capital creates those jobs feel its yesterdays news. That investors no longer value factory work explains why they migrated to China, and why a rising China has begun to similarly shed those jobs. For Santorum to then say hell bring them back not only smacks of a controlling, central planning gene, but it also speaks to a candidate divorced from reality in the economic sense. If Santorum were to actually succeed in reducing the manufacturing tax rate to zero, this wouldnt alter the all-important investor perception of work that is no longer valued from a labor-intensive point of view.
Happily Santorums candidacy is in the rear-view mirror. Not so happy, however, is what his candidacy said about the beliefs of conservatives. If Santorum was truly their guy, it seems a movement once animated by the sunny, economically advanced dynamism of Ronald Reagan has taken a giant, impoverishing leap backwards.
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Because he’s not Mitt Romney.
ABO and ABR
and... they aren’t considering Newt.
That's exactly why.
Believe me, not all of us were
Because he is about 3 times more conservative than Mitt Romney.
I never understood the appeal of Santorum. He is a big-government social conservative and he’s never managed or governed.
Anjd because Romney has never expressed any sympathy for all the workers in manufacturing who lost their jobs, because the policies that enabled him to get rich, also destroyed jobs.
That and they'd already run through all the other "not Mitt Romneys."
Mitt isn't even a republican but a big govt LIBERAL. So don't say more conservative than. He doesn't belong in the GOP race.
Because anyone who has well defined beliefs and views will attract the attention of others who have well defined beliefs and views over someone who doesn’t hold any convictions. Even if you don’t agree with them on everything.
I could add another few reasons that I, personally, supported him:
1. He's not a phony (unlike Romney).
2. He is honestly pro-life, and lives his pro-life beliefs, much like Sarah Palin (and unlike Romney).
3. He stands by all his convictions, including the currently unpopular ones (unlike Romney).
A lot of people admired Santorum even though they didn't necessarily agree with all of his public policy positions or personal beliefs. Polls showed that even his position on contraception, which was wildly mis-reported, gained him respect from both men and women.
In brief, he spoke our language.
Perry was my number one, after that I switched to Newt. But many in my circle of friends loved Santorum, and it’s because what he says resonates with them. He resonated with me, too, but I preferred Newt, just barely.
I wasn’t “so enamored of him”— ever. Given my ABO stance, however, I’d have voted for him.
Santorum wasn’t even close to ready for prime time.
After what he said about Zimmerman he has no business at any level of government.
He duped his supporters but they allowed it because they never checked his record - seems they didn’t care.
Santorum was, is, and always will be a joke.
It was all about stopping Romney.
Perry was my first choice too, I still cant believe how bad he imploded, it’s unbelievable.
>>the simple truth is that to the extent that manufacturing jobs were ever glorious (a big reach on its own
I’m sure the folks at Forbes cannot understand this, but factory jobs are not glorious and no ever said they were. However, they were a way for a high school graduate with a work ethic to make a good living for his family, possibly sending the children to college so they could migrate to the big city and look down their noses at factory workers.
I am so sick of elitist snobbery on both sides of the RepubliCrat parties who worked so hard this election destroying every conservative candidate (and some almost-rans and shoulda-rans) reducing us to the Newt-Santorum-Romney choice.
As happens over and over. Social conservatives will reject any fiscal conservative who is not socially conservative enough for them. Ditto for fiscal conservatives. In the end, both camps cancel each other out and hand victory to the RINO.
Agreed. The real question should be, "Why Were FReepers So Enamored of Newt Gingrich?" If you would have said a year ago that FR would be overwhelmingly Newt Country, you would have been laughed off this forum, just like if you had proclaimed Trent Lott would be promoted as the "true conservative" freeper candidate for President in 2012. Both were 90's has-beens that conservatives were fed up with.
I could see people throwing this support behind him in desperation to "stop Romney" when Newt was surging back in December, but when it became clear that Newt couldn't win any state outside S.C. besides his own, people continued to cling to him. Why so many freepers loved a severly flawed, backstabbing, long-past-his-prime egomaniac whose only positive in the campaign was "excellent debater" is beyond me. We're choosing a President, not a Debate Team captain.
Hang on: three times zero is STILL zero. . .
As far as Suzzyflubber is concerned, she was just another individual running for Congress under the Republican label. I doubt Newt, or any former Speaker check out new candidates all that closely ~ do you?
He hasn't begged us to take her back BTW.
The language he used to hedge in the illegals was such that only a handful would not be handcuffed and tossed over the Rio. You really have to study the whole litany he delivered on that one first.
Now that's not to defend Newt ~ he can do that himself. On the other hand I get the distinct feeling the MOTIVE behind your litany arises out of a concern that Mitt might yet get tossed.
I have no such concern for Mitt and pray night and day that he'll come to his senses and drop out of the race now!
You cannot legitimately be a Republican or a Conservative and back Mitt Romney.
Kennedy could have told him about the same thing but he totally lost his head.
Rick can come back later once he's fixed his problem.
HE IS! He is the ONLY true conservative in this race.
Mitt just sat back and laughed as the conservative vote was divided.
Mitt and his professional minions DESIGNED it that way. Remember, he's been at this for years. Now he laughing as some many bought his 'anyone but obama' mantra. Not me! I'd never taint myself.
Mitt's ONLY threat ever is Newt! He knows it, the media and GOP e knows it. They sold their soul knowing mitt is a POS. They will rot as they reap what they sow.
My guess is because he was the most religious candidate. Not the best candidate. That would be Newt.
“I never understood the appeal of Santorum. He is a big-government social conservative and hes never managed or governed.”
Social conservative is THE draw for most of his supporters, and many perceive him as a model family man. That was sufficient for them. Not my guy for a handful of reasons, but I could have settled for him.
“Perry was my first choice too, I still cant believe how bad he imploded, its unbelievable.”
News I read a week or two ago indicated he was on a HEAVY duty painkiller during the first debates. I forget the name of the painkiller, but FReepers who commented who had used it said wow, that is a drug that is hard to function on.
I accept it as providence, sadly, that he had to have the surgery and he had to use painkillers and he had to debate - so he just was not at his best, through no fault of his own, at the critical time.
America’s loss. Maybe next time?
Because Newt's not considering Newt. I wish Newt had Rick's fight, it would be a different scenario right now. Instead, Newt's saying it's over, talking about a show on Fox, and other crap
Seems like an obvious enough answer.
Obama MUST be voted out office, no matter what follows. We know America cannot survive four more years of Obama. With Mutt, who knows? If Mutt is elected, the end result may be the same, but at least it won’t be Obama. We have a choice between no hope, or a dim glimmer. Sara Palin has said she will pull the lever for Mutt if he is the candidate in November. Does that mean she is not conservative?
I will answer your question from my point of view.
No one, NO ONE, to my knowledge has had the stones to stand up to Obama, with the exception of Sarah (and I am not in the tank for her). In my fantasy scenario, Newt would hand Obama his @ss in a debate. Plain and simple, I would like to see that, before all record of it was scrubbed the next day in the MSM. I would like to see the paper tiger fold just for once.
Still, I realize Newt is a big govt guy, really I do, but I would just like to see a little FIGHT by someone with an R next to their name. We wont see that with Romney.
Damn - that would explain a lot. Worse than a shame....
Exactly. He's a liberal and his record confirms it. But when the time is right, he will be vetted and all votes for him brings in Barry. So those fearful who vote for mitt under the ABO guise WILL get what they were fearful of.
That's why I'm $upporting Newt - it is the BEST I can do for my country!
because he was a lot better than Mitt Romney
No wet work though. That's usually not all that practical ~
The Dede Scozzafava thing was not nearly that simple. The GOP rallied for her in the primary, the party took sides BECAUSE she was less conservative. Even after the facts were out there Newt backed her to the hilt and brought other “conservatives” along for the ride.
He was wrong and when he knew he was wrong he doubled down.
Newt is still 100X better than Romney though
You holier-than-thou hypocrites make me want to puke. Jesus did not teach unforgiveness.
And you Rick Rollers always trot out Dee Dee when Santorum not only supported Specter over Toomey in the primary, he even supporter Specter for president over Steve Forbes and several other conservatives. Hypocrite.
The economy is a lot more important than global warming, and Santorum has the voting record of a big spending porker.
As far as dividing the vote, Santorum got in the race after Newt did, and as quick as he got out of it, his biggest backers threw their money behind Romney.
Santorum was just one of Mitt’s stalking horses. He stayed in just long enough to keep Gingrich, a Reagan conservatives, from stopping Romney.
“seemingly so opposite of conservative”
His ACU rating was higher than most other Republicans in the House while he was there. Let me guess the person who wrote this will back liberal Romney to the hilt.
Santorum will make a comeback when 90% of children are born out of wedlock, gay weddings are in 50 states, crime is considered equal opportunity, and no middle class jobs are available.
I could never get past his past endorsement of Mitt Romney to even look at his voting record. Claiming that Mitt Romney is a "real conservative" was enough for me to just say no.
I would have voted for him in the general though. Besides he does look like Jerry Seinfeld.
I cannot (at least not at this point) vote for Mitt Romney. This will most likely be the second time I refuse to vote for a President. I never say never but the chances are very high I will not be voting this time. Even if he wee to pick a Conservative VP.
Sarah already voted for Newt! Because Newt is the only conservative and the record and know how to get the job done! And the ONLY one who can beat Obama on his worst day!
And I’ll guarantee mitt ain’t getting in, he hasn’t been vetted and he is the easiest of all candidates because his record is one of a liberal - his exposure will be brutal. And he won’t have the media on his side. A vote for him is truly one for barry. It’s not rocket science to see that. He can’t even debate and has NOTHING to debate him with. His ‘I’m a businessman’ means diddle squat and laughable. So the fearful voters will get exactly what they are fearful of - all on their own doing.
We have a Patriot, a conservative candidate who they snub - so may they live the rest of their life in fear. They don’t even deserve America how shabbily they treat her.
Santorum relates to us on an emotional level. He shares our frustrations about cultural rot. He laments the loss of good paying jobs that undergirded American families in decades past. Some of this was unavoidable, but many companies left our shores b/c of high taxes and austere regulations. He is the antithesis of an internationalist, and people such as the Forbes folks can’t relate to the anger of people toward companies and government who used their sacrifices in wars to survive and thrive. These same entities now explain from their ivory towers that manufacturing job losses are fine, b/c WE would be the people who would manage the FINANCING of products made elsewhere. What we see today is the difference between a living, vibrant human, and one gutted and stuffed by a taxidermist. THAT is why Santorum is so loved by the people who *get* what he is saying. Bob
I considered Newt. I considered his support for DeDe Schozzafava. I considered his global warming commercial with Nancy Pelosi. I considered his multiple divorces and affairs. I considered the way he botched Clinton's impeachment. I decided he wasn't any more of a conservative than Rick Santorum.
And all you need for proof is how many more delegates, states and votes Santorum won over Newt. If Newt were such a wonderful conservative, he would have certainly outperformed Santorum. Newt was certainly better known and certainly more visible. Santorum's success only illustrates what an unelectable candidate Newt truly was. Conservatives preferred an unknown to Newt Gingrich.
You mean in 2016?