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Most Americans back gun lobby, right to use deadly force
reuters.com ^ | 13 April, 2012 | Deborah Charles

Posted on 04/13/2012 10:43:54 AM PDT by marktwain

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Most Americans support the right to use deadly force to protect themselves - even in public places - and have a favorable view of the National Rifle Association, the main gun-lobby group, a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed.

However, there was also strong support from respondents for background checks as well as limiting the sale of automatic weapons and keeping guns out of churches, stores and workplaces.

The online survey showed that 68 percent, or two out of three respondents, had a favorable opinion of the NRA, which starts its annual convention in St. Louis, Missouri, on Friday.

Eighty-two percent of Republicans saw the gun lobbying group in a positive light as well as 55 percent of Democrats, findings that run counter to the perception of Democrats as anti-NRA.

Most of the 1,922 people surveyed nationwide from April Monday through Thursday said they supported laws that allow Americans to use deadly force to protect themselves from danger in their own home or in a public place.

"Americans do hold to this idea that people should be allowed to defend themselves and using deadly force is fine, in those circumstances," said pollster Chris Jackson. "In the theoretical ... there's a certain tolerance of vigilantism."

The poll was conducted amid a nationwide debate over gun rights and race after the Florida shooting of an unarmed black teenager, Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood crime watch volunteer who is white and Hispanic.

The poll results were welcomed by the NRA, which is one of the most powerful lobby groups in the country and regularly clashes with anti-gun groups and often with Democrats as it seeks to protect and expand gun rights across the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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It is not surprising that most people believe that they have a right to defend themselves.
1 posted on 04/13/2012 10:44:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
as limiting the sale of automatic weapons and keeping guns out of churches, stores and workplaces

Gee I wonder how the poll was phrased, especially since 1986 the ability to purchase automatic weapons has pretty much dried up and is confined to existing supply prior to 1986 thank you Ronnie Reagan.

2 posted on 04/13/2012 10:47:41 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: marktwain

Compare this to England, where it seems to be a crime to protect yourself with any kind of force at all (judging from everything I’ve read over the years).


3 posted on 04/13/2012 10:48:03 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: marktwain

That’s right libs get used to it and we are not going away.


4 posted on 04/13/2012 10:48:16 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: marktwain

People support the restriction of automatic weapons because people do not understand the purpose of the Second Amendment. Many who support those restrictions also do not understand that one can purchase automatic weapons with the proper paperwork and lots of money.

I, for one, would like to see a return to common sense and the deregulation of silencers. They’re required on firearms in Europe, but they’re restricted in America. Absolutely stupid.


5 posted on 04/13/2012 10:50:10 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: marktwain
It is not surprising that most people believe that they have a right to defend themselves.

No, but it is surprising to see Reuters report it.

6 posted on 04/13/2012 10:51:50 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: marktwain

7 posted on 04/13/2012 10:54:16 AM PDT by PLD (what is the difference between the Black Panthers and the KKK..Nothing I can see..)
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To: marktwain
Most Americans back gun lobby, right to use deadly force

Which is why when Al Sharpton, the Brady crew and the rest of the far left start screaming for tougher gun laws and repeal of "stand your ground" Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the rest of the democrat leadership aren't saying a word, but putting on a forced smile while whispering toward the gun grabber, "Shut up! Your going to ruin it for us. Just wait until after the election, then we can be as anti-gun as you want, but until then we don't want to touch it with a ten foot poll."

8 posted on 04/13/2012 10:57:40 AM PDT by apillar
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To: marktwain

Notice how they employed the pejorative scare phrase “gun lobby”.


9 posted on 04/13/2012 11:02:58 AM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: marktwain

From the aritcle — “...there’s a certain tolerance of vigilantism.”

Nope, not too biased there


10 posted on 04/13/2012 11:08:07 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: marktwain

“Americans do hold to this idea that people should be allowed to defend themselves and using deadly force is fine, in those circumstances,” said pollster Chris Jackson. “In the theoretical ... there’s a certain tolerance of vigilantism.”

Vigilantism is going about searching for trouble that is Not self defence.

Self defence is allowed when your going about your business and some animal decides he’s going to attack you,In most states with deadly force.


11 posted on 04/13/2012 11:14:05 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: from occupied ga

I wonder if the journalists mean the same thing by ‘automatic’ as we do..?

To them a magazine fed semi auto black rifle with a pistol grip and muzzle device is ‘automatic’.


12 posted on 04/13/2012 11:21:14 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: marktwain

Somebody should tell this giuy from the NYDN This:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-martin-shooting-shame-nra-newest-poster-child-george-zimmerman-article-1.1061033


13 posted on 04/13/2012 11:32:02 AM PDT by Mr. C (Take Back America!)
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To: marktwain
said pollster Chris Jackson. "In the theoretical ... there's a certain tolerance of vigilantism.

Did you all catch how the leftist spun that? Vigilantism ≠ Defending-your-child-from-a-killer.

14 posted on 04/13/2012 11:39:44 AM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: puppypusher
Vigilantism is going about searching for trouble that is Not self defence.

Vigilantism emerges when existing law enforcement fails to provide a suitable deterrent to crime.

15 posted on 04/13/2012 11:57:33 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: RitchieAprile
I wonder if the journalists mean the same thing by ‘automatic’ as we do..?

Probably not. Anything with a black stock and detachable magazine is an "automatic weapon" to the anti-gun media.

16 posted on 04/13/2012 11:59:42 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: marktwain

Americans LOVE vigilatism.

As I have told many who came to this country as immigrants,
“The longer you live and work with Americans, the more you will come to realize that deep down, we are all cowboys at some level. Give me a horse, give me a rope, give me a gun, and I’ll go do it my damn self!”

Charles Bronson did not become a major star on his good looks and acting talent after all.

Obama takes this on to his peril.


17 posted on 04/13/2012 12:24:00 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RitchieAprile

What the lefty media calls “assault weapons” are
semi-automatic rifles to the rest of us.


18 posted on 04/13/2012 12:31:07 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The TEA Party is my cup of tea.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

The Japanese officers used swords during their banzai charges in WW2 so technically a sword is also an “assault” weapon.


19 posted on 04/13/2012 12:38:45 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: marktwain

I just wish weapons and ammo didn’t cost so damn much! I hope the government doesn’t have extra taxes attached to weapons; if so shouldn’t that be illegal?


20 posted on 04/13/2012 12:48:40 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: marktwain; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
The leftmedia has been pulling out every canard in their outworn inventory to argue against all the legislative gains the gun-rights movement has achieved over the last decade. Concealed carry laws, "Stand Your Ground"... hell, the NY Daily News is tossing the "microstamping" sci-fi into the mix.

All very predictable. All very pathetic. And far left out of the mainstream, despite their fevered wishes to the contrary.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

21 posted on 04/13/2012 12:49:05 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain
Eighty-two percent of Republicans saw the gun lobbying group in a positive light as well as 55 percent of Democrats, findings that run counter to the perception of Democrats as anti-NRA.

Today's "jounralists" are seriously some of the dumbest people on earth. This simply indicates that many democrat VOTERS are not necessarily anti-NRA. But it says nothing about democrat POLITICIANS, who are most decidedly anti-NRA/2nd Amendment.

Also love this part:

"a neighborhood crime watch volunteer who is white and Hispanic"

Funny how the presstitutes never refer to Obama as "white and black"...

22 posted on 04/13/2012 1:01:40 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: marktwain
BTTT

Why the Gun is Civilization



23 posted on 04/13/2012 1:04:48 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: marktwain
The survey included 650 Republicans, 752 Democrats and 520 independents. The precision of the Reuters/Ipsos online poll is measured using a credibility interval and this poll has a credibility interval of plus or minus 2.6 percentage points for all respondents.

Last time that I checked, rats are over sampled and independents were under sampled. The number of independents nationally are over 35 percent. Massachusetts had just over 50 percent when Scott Brown won.

24 posted on 04/13/2012 1:09:23 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Clock King
Did you all catch how the leftist spun that?

Yeah, that jumped out at me. Vigilantism is a lynch mob. Who is exhibiting a lynch mob mentality here?

25 posted on 04/13/2012 2:12:03 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: USAF80

“....“assault weapon...”

Isn’t the term itself redundant?

If an object can be used as a weapon aren’t we saying that it can be used to assualt someone????

The term is a prejoritive bit of liberal Lunacy!


26 posted on 04/13/2012 2:14:51 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: marktwain

Free George Zimmerman!


27 posted on 04/13/2012 2:36:05 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Charles Bronson did not become a major star on his good looks and acting talent after all.”

Bronson surfaces in San Francisco, the morgue starts filling up with rapists and other assorted lowlifes, and Dirty Harry is assigned to bring him in. THAT would have been a movie!!;)


28 posted on 04/13/2012 7:52:44 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: marktwain

There are roughly 2.3-2.6 million police officers in the county.

There were 5 million private gun sales just last month.

Every time a police officer cashes a two week pay check, a private citizen buys a gun.

Gun control was a plank of the Democrat party, but Obama cut that plank in half.


29 posted on 04/13/2012 10:43:12 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: marktwain
Talk about media bias: "Americans do hold to this idea that people should be allowed to defend themselves and using deadly force is fine, in those circumstances," said pollster Chris Jackson. "In the theoretical ... there's a certain tolerance of vigilantism."

Self-defense is the exact opposite of vigilantism.

The poll was conducted amid a nationwide debate over gun rights and race after the Florida shooting of an unarmed black teenager, Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood crime watch volunteer who is white and Hispanic.

So all mixed-race citizens will now be described as their parent's racial heritage? Is Pres. Obama described as white and black? What if Zimmerman's mom was white and Hispanic would Zimmerman then be a white and a white/Hispanic?

Is this liberal American apartheid? Is this King's Dream?

Racial Classification under Apartheid

30 posted on 04/14/2012 8:51:44 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: marktwain
Well, not everybody. Read this article and the comments below the article. WARNING! MEGA BARF ALERT -- Bleating Sheep --
31 posted on 04/14/2012 6:33:25 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: marktwain

Yep!

Obummer picked another loser on this.


32 posted on 04/15/2012 1:52:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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